[WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of these frequencies. Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that platform. First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area, Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840. Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with it. Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA. Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 5170-5875. Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both wisps and consumers. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
5265-5320 5500-5580 5660-5700 5735-5840 Are these not USA channels? If am wrong let me know and I will change them. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Forrest...what is your offlist email ? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies? Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM I'm going to agree with others... Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use than to exceed the limits. I will also add that if you're running all your radios hotter than they should be that your nose floor problem is most likely self inflicted. My experience over the years is that radios are designed to run at a specific tx power and if you're exceeding it you get a lot of out of channel bleed over. Even if the radios don't do this you are introducing far more rf than is likely needed causing an overall rising of the noise floor. Please don't interpret everyone's ire incorrectly. We've just all either dealt with an operator like you are now or have been an operator like you are now. And right now we're trying to gain credibility with the FCC which is hard to do when some operators are flagrantly breaking the rules. Which makes us a bit grumpy. I'm sure some of your neighbors out there would love to help you better understand what you are doing to yourself and help you improve your operations which will in turn improve your quality of service. Heck, I'd drive over there for a weekend if my schedule wasn't so packed. In any case please ask for help in appropriate spots and let us help you reap the rewards of a correctly and legally operating network. On Feb 8, 2014 4:49 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote: Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of these frequencies. Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that platform. First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area, Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840. Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with it. Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA. Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 5170-5875. Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both wisps and consumers. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
We have over 600 Airgrids deployed (Which did not get DFS approval but we are using the frequencies listed and DFS on the Rocket Sectors they connect to. I have been chasing jumping bunny rabbits (False Positives from competitors putting up new APs)) - cost to replace $6000 not including labor costs. And money grows on trees. All of our other equipment I have reprogrammed and updated to bring them up to legal. Same with Power Bridges - No DFS - So when the Nano beams came out 5.7-5.8 No DFS that triggered my question about the lower frequencies whether it seemed like they were going to be withdrawn and sold off to the highest bidder. It is all about the money after all. Are we the only ones that deployed so many Airgrids?. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: Yes but the lower ones require DFS and lower power and a certified radio. Your original message was complaining about the removal of compliance test mode. The specific purpose of compliance test mode is to permit a radio to operate outside of legal limits. For instance over the legal power limit or on DFS bands without DFS enabled or outside legal channels for that radio. UBNT has stated over and over that their intent was not to prevent any legal operation of their radio. I haven't heard of any instances where not having compliance mode has resulted in a meaningful impact to a legal operator. I hate to defend them but in this case it seems like they may have gotten it nearly correct. Is there a specific frequency and power you're using you think is legal but isn't permitted unless you turn on compliance test mode? On Feb 12, 2014 2:08 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote: 5265-5320 5500-5580 5660-5700 5735-5840 Are these not USA channels? If am wrong let me know and I will change them. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Forrest...what is your offlist email ? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies? Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM I'm going to agree with others... Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use than to exceed the limits. I will also add that if you're running all your radios hotter than they should be that your nose floor problem is most likely self inflicted. My experience over the years is that radios are designed to run at a specific tx power and if you're exceeding it you get a lot of out of channel bleed over. Even if the radios don't do this you are introducing far more rf than is likely needed causing an overall rising of the noise floor. Please don't interpret everyone's ire incorrectly. We've just all either dealt with an operator like you are now or have been an operator like you are now. And right now we're trying to gain credibility with the FCC which is hard to do when some operators are flagrantly breaking the rules. Which makes us a bit grumpy. I'm sure some of your neighbors out there would love to help you better understand what you are doing to yourself and help you improve your operations which will in turn improve your quality of service. Heck, I'd drive over there for a weekend if my schedule wasn't so packed. In any case please ask for help in appropriate spots and let us help you reap the rewards of a correctly and legally operating network. On Feb 8, 2014 4:49 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote: Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of these frequencies. Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that platform. First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area, Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840. Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with it. Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA. Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 5170-5875. Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both wisps and consumers. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth/Performance Test
Care to share to script? On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: There is a very basic one on my web site that sounds like what you describe... www.wmwisp.net/speedtest/speedtest.php -- On 3/6/2014 9:30 AM, Sam wrote: Good Morning Folks! Years ago, I remember installing a bandwidth tester on one of the Linux boxes I had running at the WISP my wife and I owned. For the life of me I cannot remember the name of it. Do any of you have one you like enough to recommend? Basically I'd like for it to sit in the base of a tower so the users consuming bandwidth from that tower can measure their speed without touching my upstream provider - they can measure how fast and at what capacity my equipment is providing them with service from this server at the base of the tower to their equipment at their home or business. Hopefully this makes sense Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Rocket AP through put
Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
Well we have a routed network with Procera at the connection to internet doing the shaping. Over 2500 subs on over 125 APs with a Gig pipe to the internet. Our back bones are either fiber or 300M licensed links Hope that helps On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.netwrote: My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to describe your network a bit Bridged ? Routed ? What is doing Traffic Shaping ? How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- *From: *Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
I have not tried the TOP yet during peak times. Our packages are 5, 7 and 10 Meg. I am not sure what you mean by modulation of customers. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote: You cam ssh in and run top to see if its cpu limited. What are your details on the APs giving trouble? Max throughput it sees, speeds sold, modulation of customers etc? On Apr 17, 2014 1:20 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: PS, We have ~ 1400 subs and don't see but around 36Kpps going through our core even right now (peak time, 9pm). *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 04/16/2014 08:03 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget... On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote: My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to describe your network a bit Bridged ? Routed ? What is doing Traffic Shaping ? How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 305%20663%205518%20x%20232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- *From: *Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
5gig 20Mhz On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Clay Stewart cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote: Need to know - Freq, and CW? On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote: Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok. Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the through put down to 500K? We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- -- SCS Clay Stewart CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., DBA Stewart Computer Services 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com We Keep You Up and Running Wireless Broadband Programming Network Services ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] CANOPY PMP 430:
Looking for feed back before buying. The site says 50MB/sector - 200MB/Tower I assume the tower one is four of these GPS sync together. So if we need to do 5M down by 5M up per sub what would be the distance - number of subs per Sector. It appears the 50MB/sector is for 5 mile maximum LOS but how many subs? Simple math is 50 divided by 5 so we can safely have 10 per sector. I say that because we have gone past the days of just browsing and sending/receiving emails/files. Today's internet usage is steaming streaming streaming. And at the same time seems we can no longer go 10 to 20 miles that we used to. I heard these are not cheap units and want to make sure we spend the money for best performance. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera through Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using their web based support system. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith wi...@mncomm.com wrote: So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but at $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would need to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do similar functions that may be more cost effective? I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a concern if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back from some actual users of their product or other similar products. Thanks Heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt
Any out there successfully deployed dual stack network can share what equipment used for pure ipv6 access to ipv4 networks? -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com | facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt
Tim, So we are an IPV4 ISP not able to get any more IPV4 address space. We have IPV6 working in office, and on server network. I have working windows and linux IPV6 only configured machines but obviously they can only access IPV6 capable web sites and such. But we will need to start assigning IPV6 WAN address to customer routers and UBNT radios in radio router mode when we get a CRM that supports IPV6. I am a little aware of NAT64 but all my googling for NAT64 applications yields NAT64 for networks with Public address on one side and private addresses on the other. We try to keep all of our network WAN on public addresses. So far I have tried three so called ipv6 ready routers and could get none of them to work with static IPV6 addressing. Hope that explains what you are looking for. Thanks for your help. On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Tim Way <t...@way.vg> wrote: > Dual stack is a different architecture than having two separate networks > running with one running IPv4 and one running IPv6. To connect the two > disparate networks you would need to perform address family translation > (NAT64). In dual-stack it will prefer IPv6 when available, minus happy > eyeballs, but otherwise has legs or transit via both protocols to access > the necessary resource if it is either IPv4 or IPv6. > > To start I would ask to clarify what you are trying to do and I'd be happy > to help in anyway I can. I'm a bit of an IPv6 crazy. > > Tim > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Art Stephens <asteph...@ptera.com> wrote: > >> Any out there successfully deployed dual stack network can share what >> equipment used for pure ipv6 access to ipv4 networks? >> >> -- >> Arthur Stephens >> Senior Networking Technician >> Ptera Inc. >> PO Box 135 >> 24001 E Mission Suite 50 >> Liberty Lake, WA 99019 >> 509-927-7837 >> ptera.com | >> facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera >> --- >> -- >> "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and >> is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. >> Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or >> opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not >> intended to represent those of the company." >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com | facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] IPV6 and Powercode
Two times we enabled IPV6 on our network and each time Powercode had issues. 1. Backups stopped working - resolved by entering the IP address of the backup server instead of the name. ftp failed on ipv6. 2. Payment processing slowed to extreme crawl - 1 per every 1-2 minutes - resolved by turning off DNS64 3. During that time the data for invoices pulled was erroneous. Just to name a few. On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > It will pass IPv6 but you can't track bandwidth/usage/etc, kinda depends > on what you're trying to ask. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Art Stephens <asteph...@ptera.com> wrote: > >> Anyone out there successfully deployed Powercode and IPV6 on the same >> network? >> >> -- >> Arthur Stephens >> Senior Networking Technician >> Ptera Inc. >> PO Box 135 >> 24001 E Mission Suite 50 >> Liberty Lake, WA 99019 >> 509-927-7837 >> ptera.com | >> facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera >> --- >> -- >> "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and >> is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. >> Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or >> opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not >> intended to represent those of the company." >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com | facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] cnMaestro
Anyone successfully install the cnMaestro On-Premises VA on Proxmox? -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com | facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] IPV6 again?!?
OK.. so we can not use static addressing then... So I programmed a Mikrotik to do DHCP-PD and connected it to our server network. [admin@MikroTik] /ipv6 dhcp-server> pr Flags: D - dynamic, X - disabled, I - invalid #NAME INTERFACE ADDRESS-POOL PREFERENCE LEASE-TIME 0server1ether2pool1 255 3d Flags: D - dynamic # NAMEPREFIX PRE EXPIRES-AFTER 0 pool1 ::3::/60 64 I gave that Mikrotik an address in the IPV6 address space. [admin@MikroTik] /ipv6 address> pr Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid, D - dynamic, G - global, L - link-local #ADDRESS FROM-POOL INTERFACE ADVERTISE 0 G ::0:32::77/64 ether2 yes 1 DL fe80::20c:42ff:fe20:caa7/64 ether3 no 2 DL fe80::20c:42ff:fe20:caa6/64 ether2 no I can ping from ::0:32::77 from our office router (::0:32::32) I can not ping ::0:32::77from my office desk which can ping other addresses on that network. And when I set the customer ASUS router to native IPV6 DHCP-PD enabled and plug it into the server network. Nothing happens. On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Tim Way <t...@way.vg> wrote: > Art, > > Are you talking about the DHCPv6-PD allocation ranged I talked about? If > so those prefixes are intentionally different than what would be present in > the routing table. Those prefixes would normally be injected into the tower > agent by the router performing DHCP relaying and / or the DHCPv6-PD server. > If you are just labbing add the customer prefix to to the router where > appropriate. > > As far as routing protocols you will only be able to use EIGRP, OSPF, > RIPv6 and BGP. > > You likely want the relay agent, tower router, to learn the routes. In > Cisco land you have to tell the router to snoop on the DHCP packet it > relays and to inject the route. > > Tim > > On Oct 28, 2016 6:03 PM, "Art Stephens" <asteph...@ptera.com> wrote: > >> So the only IPV6 routing I can get to work is with Mikrotik/Cisco using >> OSPFv3 only. >> >> Directly plugged into the IPV6 network with a PC both physical and >> virtual works. >> >> But when I try to static setup IPV6 on a router as if I was a customer no >> luck. >> >> I have tried Netgear, ASUS, Linksys and Mikrotik. No routing thru the >> router. >> >> The closest that came to working was the Mikrotik. >> Can only ping directly connected devices though. >> I can ping the gateway and dns server from the Mikrotik router but I can >> not ping from the customer PC behind the Mikrotik router. This is the same >> PC that works if I plug directly in. >> >> IPV6 Things do not appear to work as advertised when it comes to static >> configs. >> >> Is it just me or is anyone else running into this? >> If you solved it care to share? >> >> >> >> -- >> Arthur Stephens >> Senior Networking Technician >> Ptera Inc. >> PO Box 135 >> 24001 E Mission Suite 50 >> Liberty Lake, WA 99019 >> 509-927-7837 >> ptera.com | >> facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera >> --- >> -- >> "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and >> is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. >> Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or >> opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not >> intended to represent those of the company." >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com | facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] IPV6 and Powercode
Anyone out there successfully deployed Powercode and IPV6 on the same network? -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com | facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] IPV6 again?!?
So the only IPV6 routing I can get to work is with Mikrotik/Cisco using OSPFv3 only. Directly plugged into the IPV6 network with a PC both physical and virtual works. But when I try to static setup IPV6 on a router as if I was a customer no luck. I have tried Netgear, ASUS, Linksys and Mikrotik. No routing thru the router. The closest that came to working was the Mikrotik. Can only ping directly connected devices though. I can ping the gateway and dns server from the Mikrotik router but I can not ping from the customer PC behind the Mikrotik router. This is the same PC that works if I plug directly in. IPV6 Things do not appear to work as advertised when it comes to static configs. Is it just me or is anyone else running into this? If you solved it care to share? -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com | facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cambium ePMP2000 config question
We deal with interference all the time from our competitors and from ourselves. On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote: > Isn't necessary... unless your interference levels dictate otherwise. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Nick Bright" <nick.bri...@valnet.net> > *To: *wireless@wispa.org > *Sent: *Monday, December 12, 2016 3:04:05 PM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Cambium ePMP2000 config question > > On 12/12/2016 1:58 PM, Art Stephens wrote: > > Just starting out using cambium ePMP gear. For configuring multiple > > APs on a single tower the frequency reuse requires all APs on the same > > tower to have their Subscriber Module Target Receive Levels set the same. > > > > What are the pros and cons between SMTRL of -60 and say -80? > The ideal signal range is around -60dBm, any stronger isn't necessary. > > The SMTRL will cause the subscriber to back of TX power until it meets > the Target Receive Level. > > I would not recommend a Target Receive Level any lower than -65dBm, or > your network will probably not work very well. > > -- > --- > - Nick Bright- > - Vice President of Technology - > - Valnet -=- We Connect You -=- - > - Tel 888-332-1616 x 315 / Fax 620-331-0789 - > - Web http://www.valnet.net/ - > --- > - Are your files safe?- > - Valnet Vault - Secure Cloud Backup - > - More information & 30 day free trial at - > - http://www.valnet.net/services/valnet-vault - > --- > > This email message and any attachments are intended solely for the use of > the addressees hereof. This message and any attachments may contain > information that is confidential, privileged and exempt from disclosure > under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this > message, you are prohibited from reading, disclosing, reproducing, > distributing, disseminating or otherwise using this transmission. If you > have received this message in error, please promptly notify the sender by > reply E-mail and immediately delete this message from your system. > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com | facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Cambium ePMP2000 config question
Just starting out using cambium ePMP gear. For configuring multiple APs on a single tower the frequency reuse requires all APs on the same tower to have their Subscriber Module Target Receive Levels set the same. What are the pros and cons between SMTRL of -60 and say -80? What should these be based on experience of those cambium users out there that have successfully deployed these. Thanks in advance... -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com | facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] cnMaestro
Too bad I do not have zvol dd: failed to open â/dev/zvol/Storage/vm-100-disk-1â: No such file or directory On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Larry A. Weidig <lwei...@excel.net> wrote: > Art: > > > > We have actually went through this process and here is the documentation > for the setup from our docs server, hope it helps: > > > > 1. Login to the virtualization host as root where this image will be > initially built and run the following commands to download the image and > prepare it for installation in our Proxmox environment: > > mkdir cnMaestro > > cd cnMaestro > > lynx https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/cnmaestro/ # Login and > download OVA image > > tar -xvf *.ova > > qemu-img convert -f vmdk cnmaestro-on-premises_1.2.1-r1_amd64-disk1.vmdk > -O qcow2 qcowdisk.qcow2 > > 2. The using the Proxmox UI create a virtual machine with the > following system specs: > > *Item* > > *Value* > > Name > > cor-cnm-00.excel.net > > OS > > Linux 4.x /3.x / 2.6 Kernel > > CD / DVD > > Do not use any media > > Hard Disk > > Bus: IDE, Storage: zfdStorage, Size: 80 > > CPU > > Sockets: 2, Cores: 2 > > Memory > > Fixed: 4096 > > Network > > Bridged mode, Model: Intel E1000 > > Hardware > > Display: VMware compatible (vmware) > > 3. We now need to get the disk image into the newly created virtual > machine using the following commands as root from the folder created above: > > modprobe nbd max_part=63 > > qemu-nbd -c /dev/nbd0 /root/cnMaestro/qcowdisk.qcow2 > > dd if=/dev/nbd0 of=/dev/zvol/Storage/vm-*NNN*-disk-1 bs=1M # Replace *NNN* > with > the actual vmid for machine created in last step, this will take a while > > 4. Fire it up using the Proxmox console. It will initially have some > issues waiting for network configuration, do not worry and just wait it > out. Once booted login to the console using the username of *cambium* and > password of *cnmaestro*. > > 5. At the *Operations* menu setup the *Network* and *Password* options > as appropriate for the environment and then *Reboot* the server to make > sure it comes up with the new settings. > > 6. Immediately login to the WebUI using the username *admin* and > password *admin*. Change the password and create a second administrator > account for access! NOTE: Google Chrome seems to have issues with the > site. > > 7. At this point the server is up and running as needed. > > > > > > > > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) > > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ > > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area > > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free > > > > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On > Behalf Of *Art Stephens > *Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 5:16 PM > *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > *Subject:* [WISPA] cnMaestro > > > > Anyone successfully install the cnMaestro On-Premises VA on Proxmox? > > > > -- > > Arthur Stephens > > Senior Networking Technician > > Ptera Inc. > PO Box 135 > 24001 E Mission Suite 50 > Liberty Lake, WA 99019 > 509-927-7837 > > ptera.com | > > facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera > > --- > -- > "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and > is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. > Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or > opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not > intended to represent those of the company." > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com | facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
