Cisco AP DHCP Lease Time

2009-05-21 Thread Brandon Pinsky
Do any of the Cisco LWAPP AP owners out there give any special  
consideration to the DHCP lease time assigned to the wired interface  
(i.e. the managment IP of the AP) of the Cisco AP's themselves?  Is  
there any reason to give the AP's an extremely long lease time to  
anyone's knowledge?




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RE: Enforcing and Ensuring Machine Auth 802.1x

2009-05-21 Thread Lee H Badman
ACS- has been rock solid (we use it in a fairly simple way) with excellent 
logs. Tried IAS briefly a few years back, worked, but didn't feel the love with 
logging details.

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Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:09 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Enforcing and Ensuring Machine Auth 802.1x

What are you using for your RADIUS server ?

-Neil

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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 1:01 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Enforcing and Ensuring Machine Auth 802.1x

At our little campus we have about 100 computers that are pure wireless 
workstations provided in the library for student use. From time to time they 
will refuse to machine auth to the network. Typically they are reported after 
the fact as the student will bounce from workstation to workstation until they 
find a “Hot” one.

Troubleshooting:

We have tried JAMAP (Just add more access points). (for a stretch there we had 
36 to 50 people, including wireless workstations on a single access point).
Modifying the power settings so the machines never sleep.
Updating drivers for the mix of Broadcom, intel and Linksys wireless cards.

All to no avail. We are an all aruba shop and are quite pleased with their 
entire line, the system never bogs, higgs or given us any hint of trouble just 
the 802.1x problem.

The problem is difficult because there are so many workstations and that they 
don’t do it on any predicable scale. So….. any tips for 802.1x machine auth?


Thanks!

Jason Appah
Systems Administrator
Oregon Institute of Technology
http://www.oit.edu
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Enforcing and Ensuring Machine Auth 802.1x

2009-05-21 Thread Jason Appah
Idengines

 

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Enforcing and Ensuring Machine Auth 802.1x

 

 

What are you using for your RADIUS server ?

 

-Neil

 

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Network Engineer

Information Technology Services

The University of Iowa

Work: 319 384-0938

Mobile: 319 540-2081

Fax: 319 355-2618

E-mail/MSN: neil-john...@uiowa.edu

 

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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 1:01 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Enforcing and Ensuring Machine Auth 802.1x

 

At our little campus we have about 100 computers that are pure wireless
workstations provided in the library for student use. From time to time
they will refuse to machine auth to the network. Typically they are
reported after the fact as the student will bounce from workstation to
workstation until they find a Hot one.

 

Troubleshooting: 

 

We have tried JAMAP (Just add more access points). (for a stretch there
we had 36 to 50 people, including wireless workstations on a single
access point).

Modifying the power settings so the machines never sleep.

Updating drivers for the mix of Broadcom, intel and Linksys wireless
cards.

 

All to no avail. We are an all aruba shop and are quite pleased with
their entire line, the system never bogs, higgs or given us any hint of
trouble just the 802.1x problem.

 

The problem is difficult because there are so many workstations and that
they don't do it on any predicable scale. So. any tips for 802.1x
machine auth? 

 

 

Thanks!

 

Jason Appah

Systems Administrator

Oregon Institute of Technology

http://www.oit.edu 

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Deployment-High number of users

2009-05-21 Thread Johnson, Bruce T
Jason et al,

 

Following up on the earlier the two-SSID Nirvana (open and EAP-TLS) dialogue.

 

We have a multi-controller/multi-campus environment.  I'd love to have a single
EAP-TLS SSID handle all devices/applications, several with unique walled-garden
isolation requirements that would otherwise require their own SSID.  How
difficult is this to manage when you have to differentiate by controllers and
campus-specific subnets?  

 

Can you combine attributes like NAS (controller) IP and device credentials to
serve up locally-significant VLANs?  

 

Overall, has moving the administrative burden to RADIUS been a net gain in terms
of RF cleanliness and client simplicity?

 

Regards all,

 

--Bruce Johnson

 



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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Deployment-High number of users

 

It wasn't particularly difficult and many attributes from login name,
authenticator type, location, machine name,  and snmp names can be used to
differentiate and pass different vlans... just do your research on what the
cisco is looking for when passing a vlan..

 

As an aside, the scenario we've seen both wired and wireless goes like this:

 

We have a vlan ascribed to authentication/Updates only, no internet, nothing but
a domain controller login conduit; then we have staff, student, lab vlans, and
so forth...

The clients perform machine authentication via 802.1x... the machines are placed
in the auth only vlan.. then the student staff or user logs in, and is placed in
the proper vlan.. the ip address is invalid and for a few moments 10 -15 seconds
they get limited or no connectivity until Microsoft retries the dhcp
requests...

 

 

Having one or two SSIDS is king, and when it works, its magic!

 

 

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Deployment-High number of users

 

Yes I can imagine.  Thanks for the heads-up.  

 

How hard has it been to provision via RADIUS?  I am in favor of the reduced SSID
load over the air.  Are MAC addresses the only thing can you use to map
attributes to?  What about machine names?

 

Thanks for your feedback,

 

Bruce T. Johnson   |   Network Engineer

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Correct, but it generated a ton of support calls..

 

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Is that a temporary condition until DHCP completes?

 

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Deployment-High number of users

 

The only thing about that is training your users to accept the limited or no
connectivity state when connecting to the assigned vlan...

 

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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Deployment-High number of users

 

You don't mention if your using 802.1x, but if you are, you can utilize Vlan
Override.

 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_configuration_example09
186a0080665ceb.shtml

 

which allows you to throw users int specific VLAN's based on RADIUS return
attributes.  All off the same SSID.

 

Mike

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Jason Appah jason.ap...@oit.edu wrote:

You could still get away with that with FAT AP's

That is since they are autonomous, you could assign different vlans and
in turn different ip scopes to the same ssid as they are all unawares of
each other.


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