RE: XBox 360 S

2010-08-23 Thread Osborne, Bruce W. (NS)
In this case. the dashboard interface lists wired  wireless mac addresses. The 
wireless one is apparently not used.

They probably should list the wired mac address in both places.

Bruce Osborne
Network Engineer - Wireless  NAC
Liberty University

From: Barber, Matt [barbe...@morrisville.edu]
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: XBox 360 S

As far as I can tell, this is by design and happens with the older Xbox 360 as 
well. Students have to register those devices here, so I always have them get 
the MAC address from the Dashboard interface, because the one printed on the 
wireless adapter is not used.

Matt Barber
Network and Systems Manager
Morrisville State College
315-684-6053

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W. (NS)
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 11:05 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] XBox 360 S

We have tested the new Xbox 360’s and they are connecting to wireless with the 
mac address of the wired.
Originally this was a cause for concern as if users were connected to wireless 
and wired at the same time there was a potential for a problem. After further 
investigation the Xbox360’s turn off wireless if a wired connection is 
available even if it does not get an IP address from the wired connection.
Hopefully this is not a bug in the new Xboxes and it is what Microsoft intended.

The wireless mac address belongs to Hon Hai Precision, but the wired mac 
address belongs to Microsoft.

This issue can affect any system that registers or filters based on mac address.

Bruce Osborne
Network Engineer - Wireless  NAC
Liberty University
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 3500 APs and Atheros AR5007 chips

2010-08-23 Thread Paul Cronin


Schomer, Michael J. mjscho...@stcloudstate.edu wrote:


Hi all,

I’m seeing a problem with Atheros AR5007 wireless chipsets and the new Cisco 
3502i access points we put in our residence halls this summer.  AR5007 clients 
are able to authenticate and associate to our WPA2/AES/802.1x network, but 
never receive an IP address.  Trying to connect to WPA/TKIP/802.1x fails to 
associate completely.  The same behavior can be seen when trying to connect to 
our WPA/WPA2/PSK network.  Open networks, such as our wireless portal, appear 
to be fine.  The clients connect fine to different model Cisco APs (1131, 1142, 
1252) on the same WLC.  We are running WLC software version 7.0.98 (required by 
the 3500 series access points.)

It’s move-in weekend for the residence halls and we are seeing a number of 
laptops with this chipset.

Anybody else have a similar environment noticing issues?

-Mike
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 3500 APs and Atheros AR5007 chips

2010-08-23 Thread Schomer, Michael J.
All,

The AR5007 chipset appears to be b/g only, not 5 GHz.  Not using DHCP proxy.  
Tried ClientLink on and off.  Tried CleanAir on and off.  No difference.

-Mike



-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 7:28 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 3500 APs and Atheros AR5007 chips

Another question- are you using DHCP proxy in the controllers?

-Lee Badman

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler 
[j...@scrippscollege.edu]
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 7:47 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 3500 APs and Atheros AR5007 chips

Mike,


Is this to both 802.11b and 802.11a? Do you have band steering enabled?


I've got a few 3500's in production so I'll test a AR5007 client on Monday.


Jeff

 Schomer, Michael J.  08/22/10 12:22 PM 
Hi all,

I'm seeing a problem with Atheros AR5007 wireless chipsets and the new Cisco 
3502i access points we put in our residence halls this summer.  AR5007 clients 
are able to authenticate and associate to our WPA2/AES/802.1x network, but 
never receive an IP address.  Trying to connect to WPA/TKIP/802.1x fails to 
associate completely.  The same behavior can be seen when trying to connect to 
our WPA/WPA2/PSK network.  Open networks, such as our wireless portal, appear 
to be fine.  The clients connect fine to different model Cisco APs (1131, 1142, 
1252) on the same WLC.  We are running WLC software version 7.0.98 (required by 
the 3500 series access points.)

It's move-in weekend for the residence halls and we are seeing a number of 
laptops with this chipset.

Anybody else have a similar environment noticing issues?

-Mike

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RE: XBox 360 S

2010-08-23 Thread Barber, Matt
Wow, that part is definitely new. Thanks for the heads up! A whole ton of 
consoles showed up this weekend, so I bet a good number of people registered 
the wrong MAC address.

Matt Barber
Network and Systems Manager
Morrisville State College
315-684-6053

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W. (NS)
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 5:38 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] XBox 360 S

In this case. the dashboard interface lists wired  wireless mac addresses. The 
wireless one is apparently not used.

They probably should list the wired mac address in both places.

Bruce Osborne
Network Engineer - Wireless  NAC
Liberty University

From: Barber, Matt [barbe...@morrisville.edu]
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: XBox 360 S
As far as I can tell, this is by design and happens with the older Xbox 360 as 
well. Students have to register those devices here, so I always have them get 
the MAC address from the Dashboard interface, because the one printed on the 
wireless adapter is not used.

Matt Barber
Network and Systems Manager
Morrisville State College
315-684-6053

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W. (NS)
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 11:05 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] XBox 360 S

We have tested the new Xbox 360's and they are connecting to wireless with the 
mac address of the wired.
Originally this was a cause for concern as if users were connected to wireless 
and wired at the same time there was a potential for a problem. After further 
investigation the Xbox360's turn off wireless if a wired connection is 
available even if it does not get an IP address from the wired connection.
Hopefully this is not a bug in the new Xboxes and it is what Microsoft intended.

The wireless mac address belongs to Hon Hai Precision, but the wired mac 
address belongs to Microsoft.

This issue can affect any system that registers or filters based on mac address.

Bruce Osborne
Network Engineer - Wireless  NAC
Liberty University
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Any issues with iPhone 4 and 2.4GHz 802.11n?

2010-08-23 Thread JCox
Folks,

I was talking to a higher education IT guy last week; they have a lot of 
iPhones, and are rollling out iPhone 4's to new freshman and to faculty. As 
part of this, they upgraded the campus WLAN to 802.11n.

BUT, after iPhone 4 was announced, they realized its 11n support was ONLY for 
the 2.4 GHz band (with of course only 3 non-overlapping channels, and tradeoffs 
if you merge two of them into one 40MHz channel).

In SOME locations, they're having to do some fancy juggling of access points, 
channel and power settings.

Juggling 3 channels in a crowded location clearly is NOT new. But the fact that 
this is occurring in 11n with a popular client device that often relies on WLAN 
access, seems noteworthy.

I was wondering if anyone else is running into similar issues with iPhone 4 and 
11n?

I'm going to be writing this up as a Network World story today or early 
Tuesday. If you're interested in emailing/talking briefly with me about this, 
please just copy any listserv response to (or email me directly at) my NW 
email: john_...@nww.commailto:john_...@nww.com.

Thanks!

Regards,
John Cox
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Any issues with iPhone 4 and 2.4GHz 802.11n?

2010-08-23 Thread Chris Murphy
John,

I don't think there is much of an issue here, unless there is a requirement 
that the iPhone 4's need the bandwidth possible using 40Mhz channels.  Just 
about every design guideline I've seen, and every conversation I've had with 
engineers at various networking companies, considers using 40Mhz channels at 
2.4Ghz to be a bad idea, due to the loss of what little flexibility one has 
with channel layout as well as with adverse effects on neighboring networks in 
crowded areas (the anti-social effect), so here at least we never considered 
it.

-Chris

On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:12 AM, j...@nww.commailto:j...@nww.com 
j...@nww.commailto:j...@nww.com wrote:

Folks,

I was talking to a higher education IT guy last week; they have a lot of 
iPhones, and are rollling out iPhone 4's to new freshman and to faculty. As 
part of this, they upgraded the campus WLAN to 802.11n.

BUT, after iPhone 4 was announced, they realized its 11n support was ONLY for 
the 2.4 GHz band (with of course only 3 non-overlapping channels, and tradeoffs 
if you merge two of them into one 40MHz channel).

In SOME locations, they're having to do some fancy juggling of access points, 
channel and power settings.

Juggling 3 channels in a crowded location clearly is NOT new. But the fact that 
this is occurring in 11n with a popular client device that often relies on WLAN 
access, seems noteworthy.

I was wondering if anyone else is running into similar issues with iPhone 4 and 
11n?

I'm going to be writing this up as a Network World story today or early 
Tuesday. If you're interested in emailing/talking briefly with me about this, 
please just copy any listserv response to (or email me directly at) my NW 
email: john_...@nww.commailto:john_...@nww.com.

Thanks!

Regards,
John Cox
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