RE: WCS to NCS migration trouble

2012-02-24 Thread Hurt,Trenton William
It was over 10 gigs, I had to get a patch from TAC to support 10 gig zip file.

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS to NCS migration trouble

Thank you for the response, glad to know it isn't just us. Out of curiosity, 
how large was your wcs.zip file?

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Mine ran for 10hrs, and then it was just done.   They seem to have left out any 
type of progress meter for this as well as when you apply an update to NCS.  I 
did work with TAC on an issue during an upgrade and they did a rootkit and 
where able to run a ps aux from cli to watch the process.  He joked that this 
was the progress meter.  I have put in for a feature request to get some kind 
of status bar added for this issue.

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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS to NCS migration trouble

Hello,

I'm wondering if anyone else had trouble with WCS to NCS migration...

We just bought Cisco NCS, managed to get it installed (virtual appliance, fwiw) 
and seems to work well in the short amount of time I've played with it. We 
wanted to import everything from WCS, so I followed the instructions on 
upgrading it to a version that allowed for exporting (7.0.230.0), which 
produced wcs.zip. On the NCS server (1.1.0.58), we were unable to get it to 
connect via ftp to our ftp server to grab the zip, but sftp seemed to work (the 
'show rep repname' command worked, where it wouldn't with ftp).

Anyhow, I ran the 'ncs migrate wcs-data wcs.zip rep ncs-ftp-repo' command and 
only received the below output...

Initiating WCS 7x DB restore .  Please wait...
INFO: no staging url defined, using local space.rval:2

Is this normal? Should I see a status somewhere? I've let the thing go for 
hours with nothing else showing up on the screen. Ctrl-C sends me back to exec 
mode where I can start ncs again, but after logging into NCS, I see no new data 
(controllers, mse, etc).

If you went the WCS to NCS migration route, how was your experience?

Thanks,
Andy Page
Network Design Professional
University of Notre Dame
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.

2012-02-24 Thread Luke Jenkins
Awesome guide, I wouldn't have thought of using the Multicast VLAN feature to 
bridge bonjour between our 802.1x SSID and our PSK SSID. Thanks for passing on 
this document.

We are doing a test (rather unsuccessfully) with one department on our campus, 
where I have both the AppleTVs and the i* devices doing airplay on our PSK 
network. It has been a rather large support investment to touch every device 
whenever apple nukes the config on the AppleTVs during a software upgrade. And 
as of the last month or so, whenever we turn on screen sharing, the APs force a 
re-auth of the AppleTVs. I was hoping that 7.2 would fix some bug that is 
causing this, but no luck so far.

I turned on the Multicast VLAN feature on our .1x SSID (on a lab controller of 
course) and set it to the vlan of the PSK network. Now I can get the AppleTVs 
to re-auth using an i* device on our .1x SSID!

Very exciting stuff here, thanks again for the doc.

-Luke

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Luke Jenkins
Network Engineer
Weber State University
ljenk...@weber.edu


On Feb 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Jeffrey Sessler wrote:

 Wanted to pass this on - it's not published yet on the Cisco site. It's an 
 extensive Bonjour deployment guide for their controllers.
  
 Jeff
 
  On Thursday, February 23, 2012 at 10:37 AM, in message 
  23292fa80ecbbd4093a589cbe06e403311b85...@emaildbprod2.babson.edu, 
  Thompson, William wthomp...@babson.edu wrote:
 I would request a point of clarification:  20 students?  Or 20 devices?
 
 As others have observed, everyone is carrying more AP-interested gear, thus 
 20 students could actually correspond to 40-60 devices.  No longer a 
 one-student-one-device world.
 
 Would it be correct to infer 20 devices?
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:14 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support 
 for instructors.
 
 Where did you get that 12 client number??
 
 At Liberty University, we have successfully had 20 students per AP with 5Mbit 
 streams. In a Lab test situation, we had 30 clients all streaming on one 
 AP-125 access point.
 
 Multicast on 802.11 uses the lowest rate which is 6Mbit for 5GHz networks. 
 That is why Aruba developed their multicast technology. We have been using it 
 since it was introduced. 
 
 Bruce Osborne
 Network Engineer
 IT Network Services
 
 (434) 592-4229
 
 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
 40 Years of Training Champions for Christ: 1971-2011
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brooks, Stan [mailto:stan.bro...@emory.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:49 PM
 Subject: Re: You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for 
 instructors.
 
 So it's not just about the bandwidth.  B'cast  M'cast use the lowest 
 configured data rate of the AP - just like wireless management frames.
 This means that even for 300Mbps 802.11n network is reduced to 24Mbps or 
 less.  That also ties up airtime that could be given to faster clients as 
 well, since transmitting data at a lower data rate consumes more time that 
 transmitting data at a higher data rate.
 
 So even if it is a low bit-rate stream, it takes away more available 
 bandwidth from other clients.
 
 Aruba has a method that takes b'cast  m'cast and converts it to higher speed 
 unicast traffic to each client.  This gives better results for about up to 12 
 clients on an AP/radio.
 
 - Stan Brooks - CWNA/CWSP
   Emory University
   University Technology Services
   404.727.0226
 AIM/Y!/Twitter: WLANstan
MSN: wlans...@hotmail.com
 GoogleTalk: wlans...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Goebel michael.goe...@wmich.edu
 Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:09:16 -0500
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support 
 for instructors.
 
 Has anyone actually tracked how much bandwidth/usage Bonjour coughs up 
 across their wlan infrastructure? I haven't analyzed it, and while it 
 could be bandwidth hungry, it appears to me that will be more with 
 device to device.
 
 I'm playing devils advocate here, but is a 6 meg stream on an N access 
 point both ways really going to be crunching anyone? I'd be worried 
 about G yes, but N with a gig uplink?
 
 I do find it unnerving that all the bonjour devices are able to find 
 each other and potentially create a lot of traffic, but 99.9% of the 
 time I don't see anyone working any access point very hard.
 
 Mike Goebel
 Network Programmer
 Office of Information Technology
 Western Michigan University
 Phone: 269-387-0453
 Email: michael.goe...@wmich.edu
 
 On 2/22/2012 10:18 AM, Kellogg, Brian D. wrote:
  We will need Bonjour in order to allow faculty members 

RE: WCS to NCS migration trouble

2012-02-24 Thread Robertson, Joshua A.
Mine was the same way, started it one morning and came back the next morning to 
finally find it complete.  My WCS export zip file was 14GB.

Josh Robertson
Network Systems Senior Engineer
Old Dominion University
Office of Computing  Communications Services
(757)683-5046
j2rob...@odu.edumailto:j2rob...@odu.edu
http://occs.odu.edu/
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hurt,Trenton William
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:39 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS to NCS migration trouble

Mine ran for 10hrs, and then it was just done.   They seem to have left out any 
type of progress meter for this as well as when you apply an update to NCS.  I 
did work with TAC on an issue during an upgrade and they did a rootkit and 
where able to run a ps aux from cli to watch the process.  He joked that this 
was the progress meter.  I have put in for a feature request to get some kind 
of status bar added for this issue.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]mailto:[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Andy Page
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:44 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS to NCS migration trouble

Hello,

I'm wondering if anyone else had trouble with WCS to NCS migration...

We just bought Cisco NCS, managed to get it installed (virtual appliance, fwiw) 
and seems to work well in the short amount of time I've played with it. We 
wanted to import everything from WCS, so I followed the instructions on 
upgrading it to a version that allowed for exporting (7.0.230.0), which 
produced wcs.zip. On the NCS server (1.1.0.58), we were unable to get it to 
connect via ftp to our ftp server to grab the zip, but sftp seemed to work (the 
'show rep repname' command worked, where it wouldn't with ftp).

Anyhow, I ran the 'ncs migrate wcs-data wcs.zip rep ncs-ftp-repo' command and 
only received the below output...

Initiating WCS 7x DB restore .  Please wait...
INFO: no staging url defined, using local space.rval:2

Is this normal? Should I see a status somewhere? I've let the thing go for 
hours with nothing else showing up on the screen. Ctrl-C sends me back to exec 
mode where I can start ncs again, but after logging into NCS, I see no new data 
(controllers, mse, etc).

If you went the WCS to NCS migration route, how was your experience?

Thanks,
Andy Page
Network Design Professional
University of Notre Dame
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