Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Favorite wireless tweaks?
Bruce, Did you guys go all the way and enable 802.11r as well? (Make - before - break roaming) If you did, did you have any older device's not tolerate the changes to the TLV's? Mike On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Curtis, Bruce bruce.cur...@ndsu.eduwrote: On Sep 16, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Eric T. Barnett ebarn...@astate.edu wrote: So I’m finally “caught up” a bit with the insanity that’s usually the first couple of weeks of school starting and I’m looking into trying some new things to make things run a bit better around here. I’m running 425 APs or so on a Cisco 5508 controller running 7.5. My question to you folks, what’s the best tweaks that you’ve ever done? Feel free to add things that are for your particular situation or system or for things that are system non-specific. Even if it doesn’t help me, maybe it will help someone else out there. I would have to say disabling some of the lower 2.4 GHz speeds, but that has been discussed on the list before. We have enabled 802.11k assisted roaming recently but are not sure yet if it has helped. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/technology/vowlan/bestpractices/EntBP-AppMobDevs-on-Wlans.pdf Thanks in advance! Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu --- Bruce Curtis bruce.cur...@ndsu.edu Certified NetAnalyst II701-231-8527 North Dakota State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Gaming consoles/streaming devices
We use ClearPass to classify the device and assign the appropriate role on our open network (which also serves guests). * * *Tim Cappalli, *Network Engineer LTS | Brandeis University x67149 | (617) 701-7149 cappa...@brandeis.edu *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Danny Eaton *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:08 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Gaming consoles/streaming devices We here at Rice U. have a visitor wireless network (with splash page/policy acceptance), 802.1x network for students, staff and faculty to join, and are testing an eduroam setup. personal devices are steered to the wired network, as we have nothing set up for MAC registration at this time for wireless devices. *Connected by Motorola* Britton Anderson blanders...@alaska.edu wrote: It's a hot topic with us as well at the start of each semester. Currently, we only allow consoles and media devices on the wired network. We don't want them consuming air time, as nearly all of them will keep a connection open while powered down/asleep. Rather than manage the traffic, we manage user expectations as best we can. Being in Alaska, bandwidth is hard to come by. And a 550Mbps link with approximately 9,000 simultaneous clients doesn't equate to much per connection. Like Bruce, we also utilize PacketShaper to help out. We have partitions set up for staff and student address spaces and prioritize staff/faculty space above students. After hours, students can (and typically do) max it out. Britton Anderson blanders...@alaska.edu | Senior Network Communications Specialist* *| Office of Information Technology http://www.alaska.edu/oit | 907.450.8250 On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Entwistle, Bruce bruce_entwis...@redlands.edu wrote: I know this topic has been discussed before but the start of the new school year has restarted our conversation on this topic. What I am referring to is what schools are doing to accommodate students in connecting their entertainment devices (game consoles, media streaming players, etc) to the campus wireless network along with managing the traffic associated with these devices. We are considering different options for authentication; periodically changed static key, MAC address registration, along with using our PacketShaper to manage the traffic, but are looking to see what other campuses have done and the challenges they encountered. Thank you in advance for you response Bruce Entwistle Network Manager University of Redlands ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. !DSPAM:911,5238c90e81051294314587! ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: iOS7 Release Sep 18th
Also have a look at this page and also the pdf linked in the comments... https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-36523 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of j...@nww.com Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:25 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS7 Release Sep 18th Cisco has something on this, on their website. I'm just now starting to read it: Get Your Network Ready For iOS7 http://blogs.cisco.com/wireless/get-your-network-ready-for-ios7/ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bhutta, Rizwan A. Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:35 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS7 Release Sep 18th Hi, With iOS7 being released on September 18th, anticipated availability time is noon EDT, what strategies are people employing is addressing the high bandwidth demand at that time? The size of the iOS7 update is about 1.2GB. I am more interested to hear strategies related to wireless infrastructure and commodity bandwidth utilization. Thanks Sincerely, === Rizwan Bhutta Assistant Director, Enterprise Architecture. Information Technology Services (ITS), Engineering Computational Science Building Old Dominion University 4700 Elkhorn Avenue 4th Floor, Room 4300 Norfolk, VA 23529 Office: 757-683-3586. Fax: 757-683-5155. E-Mail: rbhu...@odu.edumailto:rbhu...@odu.edu http://www.odu.eduhttp://www.odu.edu/ . ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Experience with Meru
Hello all, Has anyone here worked with Meru Networks gear? We’ve got some client density issues (primarily in auditorium spaces) that our Cisco gear doesn’t support very well and we’re investigating alternative solutions for those areas. We met briefly with Meru and the technology looks interesting, but I’m curious to hear if it lives up to the hype. Thanks, John McMillan University of South Alabama Computer Services Center ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Capacity of a Cisco 5500 series controller
Thanks for the responses guys. Eric..how many APs do you have on this controller?and.is it standalone or part of a mobility group? ...thx.J Jamie Savage | Senior Communications Technician | University Information Technology 010 Steacie Science Building | York University | 4700 Keele St. , Toronto ON M3J 1P3 Canada T: 416.736.2100 x22605 | F: 416.736.5830 | jsav...@yorku.ca | www.yorku.ca York UIT will NEVER send unsolicited requests for passwords or other personal information via email. Messages requesting such information are fraudulent and should be deleted. From: Eric T. Barnett ebarn...@astate.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Date: 09/16/2013 12:06 PM Subject:Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Capacity of a Cisco 5500 series controller Sent by:The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Had 7100 users concurrent the other day at peak. Seems to be working ok. Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jamie Savage Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:42 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Capacity of a Cisco 5500 series controller Hi all, Rarely can one take the published capacity numbers of devices at face value. The Cisco 5500 series wireless controller is rated to handle 'up to' 500 APs and 7000 concurrent clients. Has anyone pushed this device to capacity? If not, what limits have you decided on? ..thanks in advance..Jamie Jamie Savage | Senior Communications Technician | University Information Technology 010 Steacie Science Building | York University | 4700 Keele St. , Toronto ON M3J 1P3 Canada T: 416.736.2100 x22605 | F: 416.736.5830 | jsav...@yorku.ca | www.yorku.ca York UIT will NEVER send unsolicited requests for passwords or other personal information via email. Messages requesting such information are fraudulent and should be deleted. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: iOS7 Release Sep 18th
Here is the correct link with the working pdf https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-36528 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hurt,Trenton W. Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:07 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS7 Release Sep 18th Also have a look at this page and also the pdf linked in the comments... https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-36523 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of j...@nww.com Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:25 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS7 Release Sep 18th Cisco has something on this, on their website. I'm just now starting to read it: Get Your Network Ready For iOS7 http://blogs.cisco.com/wireless/get-your-network-ready-for-ios7/ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bhutta, Rizwan A. Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:35 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS7 Release Sep 18th Hi, With iOS7 being released on September 18th, anticipated availability time is noon EDT, what strategies are people employing is addressing the high bandwidth demand at that time? The size of the iOS7 update is about 1.2GB. I am more interested to hear strategies related to wireless infrastructure and commodity bandwidth utilization. Thanks Sincerely, === Rizwan Bhutta Assistant Director, Enterprise Architecture. Information Technology Services (ITS), Engineering Computational Science Building Old Dominion University 4700 Elkhorn Avenue 4th Floor, Room 4300 Norfolk, VA 23529 Office: 757-683-3586. Fax: 757-683-5155. E-Mail: rbhu...@odu.edumailto:rbhu...@odu.edu http://www.odu.eduhttp://www.odu.edu/ . ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
So has anyone else seen a HUGE spike in wireless traffic with the IOS7 update? Our wireless had a dramatic shift at exactly 11:55AM CDT that's still going strong. Regards, Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
Same here.. Randy Ethridge Network Engineer V Information Services Eastern Illinois University rlethri...@eiu.edu Office Ph. 217-581-7640 Proud to say I am EIU EIU THINKS GREEN: Before printing this e-mail think if it is necessary - Original Message - From: Eric T. Barnett ebarn...@astate.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:29:55 PM Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade So has anyone else seen a HUGE spike in wireless traffic with the IOS7 update? Our wireless had a dramatic shift at exactly 11:55AM CDT that’s still going strong. Regards, Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
Yes there was a noticeable increase which corresponded with the release of iOS7. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric T. Barnett Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:30 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade So has anyone else seen a HUGE spike in wireless traffic with the IOS7 update? Our wireless had a dramatic shift at exactly 11:55AM CDT that's still going strong. Regards, Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
We are. Typical load at this time on a Wednesday is around 1.5Gbps aggregate for our ~22K-ish concurrent users. It's currently cooking along at 2.8Gbps with a very clear jump right around that time. -Brandon From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric T. Barnett Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:30 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade So has anyone else seen a HUGE spike in wireless traffic with the IOS7 update? Our wireless had a dramatic shift at exactly 11:55AM CDT that's still going strong. Regards, Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
Our wireless traffic jumped up to 5 times what it was before the update. On Wed, 18 Sep 2013, Eric T. Barnett wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:29:55 -0500 From: Eric T. Barnett ebarn...@astate.edu Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade So has anyone else seen a HUGE spike in wireless traffic with the IOS7 update? Our wireless had a dramatic shift at exactly 11:55AM CDT that's still going strong. Regards, Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Todd M. Hall Sr. Network Analyst Information Technology Services Mississippi State University t...@msstate.edu 662-325-9311 (phone) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Capacity of a Cisco 5500 series controller
427 currently and while we have another 5508, I use it primarily for testing and failover. So it's effectively standalone. --Eric From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jamie Savage Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:54 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Capacity of a Cisco 5500 series controller Thanks for the responses guys. Eric..how many APs do you have on this controller?and.is it standalone or part of a mobility group? ...thx.J Jamie Savage | Senior Communications Technician | University Information Technology 010 Steacie Science Building | York University | 4700 Keele St. , Toronto ON M3J 1P3 Canada T: 416.736.2100 x22605 | F: 416.736.5830 | jsav...@yorku.camailto:jsav...@yorku.ca | www.yorku.cahttp://www.yorku.ca/ York UIT will NEVER send unsolicited requests for passwords or other personal information via email. Messages requesting such information are fraudulent and should be deleted.http://www.yorku.ca/ From:Eric T. Barnett ebarn...@astate.edumailto:ebarn...@astate.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Date:09/16/2013 12:06 PM Subject:Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Capacity of a Cisco 5500 series controller Sent by:The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Had 7100 users concurrent the other day at peak. Seems to be working ok. Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.eduhttp://wireless.astate.edu/ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jamie Savage Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:42 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Capacity of a Cisco 5500 series controller Hi all, Rarely can one take the published capacity numbers of devices at face value. The Cisco 5500 series wireless controller is rated to handle 'up to' 500 APs and 7000 concurrent clients. Has anyone pushed this device to capacity? If not, what limits have you decided on? ..thanks in advance..Jamie Jamie Savage | Senior Communications Technician | University Information Technology 010 Steacie Science Building | York University | 4700 Keele St. , Toronto ON M3J 1P3 Canada T: 416.736.2100 x22605 | F: 416.736.5830 | jsav...@yorku.camailto:jsav...@yorku.ca | www.yorku.cahttp://www.yorku.ca/ York UIT will NEVER send unsolicited requests for passwords or other personal information via email. Messages requesting such information are fraudulent and should be deleted.http://www.yorku.ca/ ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
Wireless bandwidth had doubled since noon today. Joshua Gonzalez, CCNA, Network+ Manager of Network Services Texas AM Corpus Christi 361-825-2576 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric T. Barnett Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:30 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade So has anyone else seen a HUGE spike in wireless traffic with the IOS7 update? Our wireless had a dramatic shift at exactly 11:55AM CDT that's still going strong. Regards, Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
Doubled for us as well from yesterday- [cid:image001.png@01CEB47C.2AC8A520] Chris Hart Network Engineer, Telecommunications Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Rd Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-7747 www.it.northwestern.eduhttp://www.it.northwestern.edu/ inline: image001.png
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
Hah, apparently the word is out... Derek Johnson | Data Communications Coordinator FORT HAYS STATE UNIVERSITY 415 Lyman Dr. TH 101, Hays, KS 67601 (785) 628 - 5688 | djohn...@fhsu.edu From: Chris Hart ch...@northwestern.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Date: 09/18/2013 02:34 PM Subject:Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade Sent by:The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Doubled for us as well from yesterday- Chris Hart Network Engineer, Telecommunications Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Rd Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-7747 www.it.northwestern.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. image/gif
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
Not seeing any spikes yet on our wireless infrastructure, but I am sure it is just a matter of time though once classes are done for the day. On a side note, the #1 app sorted by bytes in our Palo Alto firewall over the past hour is itunes-base. I thought it would be categorized as something else like apple-update or apple-appstore. Anyone else with a PAN seeing something similar? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Case, Brandon J ca...@purdue.edu wrote: We are. Typical load at this time on a Wednesday is around 1.5Gbps aggregate for our ~22K-ish concurrent users. It’s currently cooking along at 2.8Gbps with a very clear jump right around that time. ** ** -Brandon ** ** *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Eric T. Barnett *Sent:* Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:30 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade ** ** So has anyone else seen a HUGE spike in wireless traffic with the IOS7 update? Our wireless had a dramatic shift at exactly 11:55AM CDT that’s still going strong. ** ** Regards, ** ** Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** ** ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Alan Nord, CCNA Infrastructure Manager Information Technology Services Macalester College 1600 Grand Avenue St. Paul, MN 55105 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
Greetings, Since we're all sharing.. Kevin G. SeboltDirector, Office of Information TechnologyFranciscan University of Steubenville1235 University Blvd. Steubenville, Ohio 43952-1763Phone: 740-284-5192Fax: 740-284-7228www.franciscan.edu "Eric T. Barnett" ebarn...@astate.edu 9/18/2013 2:29 PM So has anyone else seen a HUGE spike in wireless traffic with the IOS7 update? Our wireless had a dramatic shift at exactly 11:55AM CDT that’s still going strong. Regards, Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu Scanned by for virus, malware and spam by SCM appliance ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
On Sep 18, 2013, at 14:40 , Colantuoni, Robert r...@buffalo.edu wrote: We actually have an Akamai cache on campus, which has taken the brunt of the load in the past. It doesn’t seem to be getting the traffic this time around, they are trouble-shooting it now. Yeah, our Akamai server isn't picking up the load this time either. -- Julian Y. Koh Acting Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-5780 NUIT Web Site: http://www.it.northwestern.edu/ PGP Public Key:http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
Akamai can't decide which cache they want our clients using...they keep switching us back and forth. It'd be awesome if they left it on our 10G link where we have extra capacity. Commodity: FLR/I2 Commercial peering: Joe Rogers University of South Florida ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
FW: iOS 7 update available at 1PM
From our friends at the ISC StormCenter. I wonder how long it takes to get registered with the mother ship. Thanks John -Original Message- From: Swa Frantzen - ISC [mailto:isc@ ] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:39 PM To: John York Subject: Re: iOS 7 update available at 1PM They would contact your server! http://nbalonso.com/os-x-server-caching/#comments explains how it works: apple redirects the clients to your cache if the request comes from an IP address you're registered for. No configuration at all needed on the client: apple sends the clients to you. Swa To install it: use any mac, add the OS X Server app from the app store (costs a few dollars, guess around 20$ or so (I only see prices in EURO) Once you have that, you can enable the cache service It'll register with apple and apple will redirect clients on your network to the cache instead of their servers when it recognizes the source IP as the same as the registered cache. There's no need to configure anything on the devices themselves. Advanced configurations might be needed on more complex networks. See here for command line options: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5590 Esp. if you have multiple outside IP addresses, or internal firewalls between the clients and the server, ... you need to do more than just turn on the service. Worst case (in a .edu setting I guess it might be common, you'll need to NAT the clients if they connect to apple to the same outside IP as the server) You can have multiple caching servers - but even a single mac mini can offload quite a bit of you outside networks. How it works is explained rather well here: http://nbalonso.com/os-x-server-caching/#comments Swa On 18 Sep 2013, at 21:27, John York yo...@brcc.edu wrote: Oh well... -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:25 PM To: John York Subject: RE: iOS 7 update available at 1PM That wouldn't work none of these devices are managed by us they are mostly student owned. So they wouldn't attaché to one of our servers anyway. -Original Message- From: John York Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:21 PM To: Swa Frantzen - ISC Subject: RE: iOS 7 update available at 1PM We'll look into it. Wow. Hey Matt, before you go... -Original Message- From: Swa Frantzen - ISC [mailto:isc@ ] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:19 PM To: John York Subject: Re: iOS 7 update available at 1PM I guess more networks need to install an apple caching server. It's nearly trivial to do so: all it takes is a simple apple server configured for doing this. Swa On 18 Sep 2013, at 21:15, John York yo...@brcc.edu wrote: From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric T. Barnett Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:42 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS 7 update available at 1PM Amazing. Apple just DDoS'd the world. First time in a LONG time I've seen an event like this. Here's our wireless chart: image004.png From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf OfTurner, Ryan H Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:40 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS 7 update available at 1PM And what's worse is that the update seems to be failing more often than not, so we'll be seeing it for a while as people keep trying to update. From: Turner, Ryan H Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:36 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: FW: iOS 7 update available at 1PM Yup J image005.png image006.png image007.png -- jg ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
Here is our last 24H so far we have peeked at about 850 Mbps [cid:image001.png@01CEB48A.ECC58FE0] Peppino Muraca Sr. Network Administrator Stonehill College 508-565-1193 pmur...@stonehill.edu -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Colantuoni, Robert Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:17 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade They tracked our problem down to an issue on their side -- they were not properly processing our BGP advertisements. They've fixed it but I haven't seen any change in traffic just yet... --- Robert G Colantuoni Senior Programmer Analyst CIT - Network and Classroom Services SUNY Buffalo r...@buffalo.edumailto:r...@buffalo.edu 716.645.3552 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:03 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade Ours didn't at first, but eventually kicked in and thankfully took on a good 2 gigs worth. Pete Morrissey -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Julian Y Koh Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:48 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade On Sep 18, 2013, at 14:40 , Colantuoni, Robert r...@buffalo.edumailto:r...@buffalo.edu wrote: We actually have an Akamai cache on campus, which has taken the brunt of the load in the past. It doesn't seem to be getting the traffic this time around, they are trouble-shooting it now. Yeah, our Akamai server isn't picking up the load this time either. -- Julian Y. Koh Acting Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-5780 NUIT Web Site: http://www.it.northwestern.edu/ PGP Public Key:http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. inline: image001.png
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
Ours didn't at first, but eventually kicked in and thankfully took on a good 2 gigs worth. Pete Morrissey -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Julian Y Koh Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:48 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade On Sep 18, 2013, at 14:40 , Colantuoni, Robert r...@buffalo.edu wrote: We actually have an Akamai cache on campus, which has taken the brunt of the load in the past. It doesn't seem to be getting the traffic this time around, they are trouble-shooting it now. Yeah, our Akamai server isn't picking up the load this time either. -- Julian Y. Koh Acting Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-5780 NUIT Web Site: http://www.it.northwestern.edu/ PGP Public Key:http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
They tracked our problem down to an issue on their side -- they were not properly processing our BGP advertisements. They've fixed it but I haven't seen any change in traffic just yet... --- Robert G Colantuoni Senior Programmer Analyst CIT - Network and Classroom Services SUNY Buffalo r...@buffalo.edu 716.645.3552 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:03 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade Ours didn't at first, but eventually kicked in and thankfully took on a good 2 gigs worth. Pete Morrissey -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Julian Y Koh Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:48 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade On Sep 18, 2013, at 14:40 , Colantuoni, Robert r...@buffalo.edu wrote: We actually have an Akamai cache on campus, which has taken the brunt of the load in the past. It doesn't seem to be getting the traffic this time around, they are trouble-shooting it now. Yeah, our Akamai server isn't picking up the load this time either. -- Julian Y. Koh Acting Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-5780 NUIT Web Site: http://www.it.northwestern.edu/ PGP Public Key:http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
We peaked at just over 9.5Gbps today on our campus (30 second averages). Jason On 09/18/2013 01:29 PM, Eric T. Barnett wrote: So has anyone else seen a HUGE spike in wireless traffic with the IOS7 update? Our wireless had a dramatic shift at exactly 11:55AM CDT that’s still going strong. Regards, Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. attachment: rtg-20130918-ios7release.png smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Bandwidth utilization and IOS7 upgrade
We haven't seen a spike as such, but that’s probably due to the time it was released since we are in Aus. Certainly our app id on the firewalls now shows itunes-base has the largest bandwidth user, it's gone from number 37 yesterday to number 1 since IOS7 release today 6.5 hours -- Jason Cook Technology Services The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph : +61 8 8313 4800