RE: WiFi planning spin-off - Student provided wifi

2013-12-16 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
Aruba already has their product on the market - the AP93H.

http://www.arubanetworks.com/products/access-points/ap-93h/


Bruce Osborne
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From: Britton Anderson [mailto:blanders...@alaska.edu]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: WiFi planning spin-off - Student provided wifi

For new residence halls, I would really push the 702W AP. They're not actually 
out yet, but depending on how far out you are you could still account for them 
in your plan.

If you haven't seen them yet,
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5678/ps12968/data_sheet_c78-728968.html

Each AP is dual band, has a 4 port switch built in. Almost like a SOHO router, 
but you get the added bonus to be able to manage it through your WLC's, and PoE 
powered. And at 2dBm at the lowest power level, you can contain the broadcast 
area. And if your res halls are anything like ours with the walls made of 
concrete, signals should go beyond each room.


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On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Mike Albano 
mike.alb...@unlv.edumailto:mike.alb...@unlv.edu wrote:
Sounds like a bad idea.
Most SOHO routers/ap's you pick up at bestbuy/fry's run at max Tx power and 
have lowest supported data-rate of 1Mbps. Your 2.4GHz RF will be likely be 
unusable. ResHalls are even worse (RF-wise) than apartments, as they are much 
closer together.
Let me know if you'd like me to expand on this but I'd say the following will 
greatly impact the usability if each suite/room has it's own soho ap:
*CCI
*ACI (with no channel plan, these devices will be on more than just 1,6,11)
*Security (even w/ WPA2-PSK, most of these devices support the broken WPS)

My experience is you either pay up-front (in $ or staff-time) to properly 
survey, or you pay on the back-end in troubleshooting.

You are right about Education though. Regardless of the direction you choose, 
get signage, put it on the welcome packet etc. etc. Setting expectations has 
helped us a lot, especially when there's a MWO in every room and we are @ 50% 
2.4GHz-only clients.

Mike Albano
UNLV

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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning spin-off - Student provided wifi

I didn't think this topic would generate that much buzz.  Thank you all for 
your feed back.  Allow me to jump tracks here and and throw out a concept that 
may seem heretical.

In res halls, has anyone provided ONLY wired connections and allowed students 
to bring in their own router(s).  From a managed perspective, there are several 
reasons why it's a bad idea.  However I cannot shake the notion that with 
proper education, the rewards might outweigh the risks.

To me, the target reward is that the student receives the level of service they 
want where they want it.  The user can chose what device is desired and upgrade 
as they see fit and the technology is always current.  IT would help with best 
practices, education and limited support but the student is ultimately 
responsible.

I would really like to pitch this for an apartment style dorm that is being 
built.  Does anyone think this model can work?




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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning spin-off - Student provided wifi

2013-12-16 Thread Julian Y Koh
On Dec 16, 2013, at 06:39 , Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) 
bosbo...@liberty.edu wrote:
 
 Aruba already has their product on the market – the AP93H.
  
 http://www.arubanetworks.com/products/access-points/ap-93h/

Biggest difference though is that it’s not dual band.  


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