Cisco 2700 AP
Has anyone noticed that Cisco has announced their latest AC access point? http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/aironet-2700-series-access-point/datasheet-c78-730593.html Built-in Wave 1 AC, two gig ports, supposedly the same cost as the 2600. Andy -- Andy Page Network Design Professional Member, ND Wireless Institute University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 Go Irish! ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP
Echoing what Kenneth said, this will require 8.0, which won¹t be available until sometime this summer. Andy -- Andy Page Network Design Professional Member, ND Wireless Institute University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 GO IRISH! On 3/31/14, 5:37 PM, Mattson III, Ken V. kmatt...@creighton.edu wrote: Verify which version of controller code you need to be on before you get them. The data sheet says Cisco Unified Wireless Network Software Release 8.0 or later Kenneth V. Mattson III Director - Network and Data DoIT Creighton University 402-280-2743 402-981-1140 A password is like a toothbrush: Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of McClintic, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:08 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP Yes, you can disable 11ac mode globally. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Christina Klam Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:05 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP We are putting together our purchase requests for the FY15. As the 2700 costs the same as the 2600, it makes sense to get the 2700s. However, we do not need AC right now. Judging from this list, AC is still beta-like for the enterprise. Is there a way to turn of the AC radios on the 2700 and 3700s? Thank you, Christina -- Christina Klam Network Engineer Institute for Advanced Study Email: ck...@ias.edu Einstein Drive Telephone: 609-734-8154 Princeton, NJ 08540 Fax: 609-951-4418 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.educause.edu/groups/ k=yYSsEqip9%2FcIjLHUhVwIqA%3D%3D%0Ar=eHsexY0U6WY24UhDK4eLQbvXOPzMySRoCq8 7DX3WV5M%3D%0Am=bCy3zP77T8K4AjSZUtYeomNT3algWwrYQ5BpsAMk1Jc%3D%0As=205da ab134462778be54ca566cba936649bf1a76270ce868127f1f0cc3f9885e. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP
For what it¹s worth, I just found out this will be supported in 7.6MR2 which is due out in May or June. Will also be supported in 8.0. Andy -- Andy Page Network Design Professional Member, ND Wireless Institute University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 GO IRISH! On 3/31/14, 5:37 PM, Mattson III, Ken V. kmatt...@creighton.edu wrote: Verify which version of controller code you need to be on before you get them. The data sheet says Cisco Unified Wireless Network Software Release 8.0 or later Kenneth V. Mattson III Director - Network and Data DoIT Creighton University 402-280-2743 402-981-1140 A password is like a toothbrush: Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of McClintic, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:08 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP Yes, you can disable 11ac mode globally. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Christina Klam Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:05 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP We are putting together our purchase requests for the FY15. As the 2700 costs the same as the 2600, it makes sense to get the 2700s. However, we do not need AC right now. Judging from this list, AC is still beta-like for the enterprise. Is there a way to turn of the AC radios on the 2700 and 3700s? Thank you, Christina -- Christina Klam Network Engineer Institute for Advanced Study Email: ck...@ias.edu Einstein Drive Telephone: 609-734-8154 Princeton, NJ 08540 Fax: 609-951-4418 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.educause.edu/groups/ k=yYSsEqip9%2FcIjLHUhVwIqA%3D%3D%0Ar=eHsexY0U6WY24UhDK4eLQbvXOPzMySRoCq8 7DX3WV5M%3D%0Am=bCy3zP77T8K4AjSZUtYeomNT3algWwrYQ5BpsAMk1Jc%3D%0As=205da ab134462778be54ca566cba936649bf1a76270ce868127f1f0cc3f9885e. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP
Cisco says the 2700 will be the same price as the 2600, which is about $375 less than a 3700, and obviously doesn’t count the cost of the Wave 2 module. That difference adds up quickly on large campuses. On 3/31/14, 7:41 PM, Stewart, Joe jstew...@claremontmckenna.edu wrote: Anyone know the price difference between the 2700 and the 3700? Without the future proof modularity support for the second phase of AC I'm wondering why you wouldn't just want the 3700 series. --Joe -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Andy Page Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:04 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP For what it¹s worth, I just found out this will be supported in 7.6MR2 which is due out in May or June. Will also be supported in 8.0. Andy -- Andy Page Network Design Professional Member, ND Wireless Institute University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 GO IRISH! On 3/31/14, 5:37 PM, Mattson III, Ken V. kmatt...@creighton.edu wrote: Verify which version of controller code you need to be on before you get them. The data sheet says Cisco Unified Wireless Network Software Release 8.0 or later Kenneth V. Mattson III Director - Network and Data DoIT Creighton University 402-280-2743 402-981-1140 A password is like a toothbrush: Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of McClintic, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:08 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP Yes, you can disable 11ac mode globally. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Christina Klam Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:05 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2700 AP We are putting together our purchase requests for the FY15. As the 2700 costs the same as the 2600, it makes sense to get the 2700s. However, we do not need AC right now. Judging from this list, AC is still beta-like for the enterprise. Is there a way to turn of the AC radios on the 2700 and 3700s? Thank you, Christina -- Christina Klam Network Engineer Institute for Advanced Study Email: ck...@ias.edu Einstein Drive Telephone: 609-734-8154 Princeton, NJ 08540 Fax: 609-951-4418 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.educause.edu/grou ps/ k=yYSsEqip9%2FcIjLHUhVwIqA%3D%3D%0Ar=eHsexY0U6WY24UhDK4eLQbvXOPzMySRo Cq8 7DX3WV5M%3D%0Am=bCy3zP77T8K4AjSZUtYeomNT3algWwrYQ5BpsAMk1Jc%3D%0As=20 5da ab134462778be54ca566cba936649bf1a76270ce868127f1f0cc3f9885e. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Outsourcing WiFi to Apogee
Has anyone had experience with outsourcing their WiFi infrastructure to Apogee, or perhaps explored this option? Interested in any information you may have. Andy -- Andy Page Network Design Professional University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 Go Irish! ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] FW: Outsourcing WiFi to Apogee
We are able to put APs in rooms if we wanted, but opted to put them in hallways to limit the amount we would need to deploy, as well as making replacements easier. We will occasionally put an access point in a room if we have to, but it not typically necessary. We have been lucky so far, students don't mess with the access points. In the last 5 years, I can only think of one instance of a stolen access point, and none have been destroyed. Andy Page Notre Dame On Oct 31, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Kitri Waterman ki...@uoregon.edumailto:ki...@uoregon.edu wrote: I'm curious to hear how folks are handling APs in their dorms including with outside contractors like Apogee? Are you able to put APs in the dorm room themselves or are you restricted to the hallways? How do you protect the APs from normal student wear and tear? Kitri Waterman -- Network Engineer University of Oregon On 10/31/13 2:43 PM, Trusner, Ms. Jamie wrote: Hi Andy, Apogee provides all the WiFi infrastructure for our Res Halls here at Tarleton State University. We are very happy with the service and the support they provide. Internally, we are a Cisco shop but Apogee is using an Aruba solution. We were impressed with both the speed and ease of the installation. Jamie Jamie Trusner Networks Communications Manager Information Technology Services Tarleton State University 254-968-9900 Information Technology Services staff will never ask for your password in an email. Don't ever email your password to anyone or share confidential information in emails. Confidentiality Notice: This electronic message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Andy Page Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:37 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outsourcing WiFi to Apogee Has anyone had experience with outsourcing their WiFi infrastructure to Apogee, or perhaps explored this option? Interested in any information you may have. Andy -- Andy Page Network Design Professional University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 Go Irish! No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3426 / Virus Database: 3222/6796 - Release Date: 10/31/13 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3222/6296 - Release Date: 10/31/13 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] FW: Outsourcing WiFi to Apogee
We haven't had too much trouble with hallway deployments, but I make sure to keep a close eye on channel utilization and make manual adjustments as needed. Andy - Reply message - From: Chris Murphy ch...@mit.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] FW: Outsourcing WiFi to Apogee Date: Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:35 PM We also started with hallway deployments, but have had the same experience with the controllers basing their settings on an open environment. So into the rooms the APs go... -Chris On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote: On 10/31/2013 6:53 PM, Andy Page wrote: We are able to put APs in rooms if we wanted, but opted to put them in hallways to limit the amount we would need to deploy, as well as making replacements easier. We will occasionally put an access point in a room if we have to, but it not typically necessary. We have had some issues with APs in hallways, especially 5Ghz coverage. If you use a managed RF coverage (we have Aruba), the hallway APs tend to lower their power (because of the strong neighboring signals), causing some issues on the fringes of the rooms. Jeff ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. --- Chris Murphy - MIT IST Network Operations - ch...@mit.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Horizontal AP mounting options
Supposed to be about $300, and I don't believe they come out until Q1 or Q2. If I remember correctly, these are meant to be mounted vertically. -- Andy Page Network Design Professional University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 Go Irish! - Reply message - From: Stewart, Joe jstew...@claremontmckenna.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Horizontal AP mounting options Date: Fri, Oct 25, 2013 5:13 PM The Cisco 702W looks very promising for our dorm rooms that are very limited due to legacy infrastructure and I can't wait to try these out. Anyone know an approximate cost on those yet? Even though Cisco recommends you mount most AP's horizontally, I have mounted many vertical about 8 feet high onto drywall with wire mold in dorm rooms and just use a small keyed alike master lock to secure it. I haven't noticed any negative impact on vertical vs. horizontal yet, but 95% of ours are mounted horizontally. Joe Stewart Network Specialist I Information Systems and Network Services Claremont McKenna College Claremont, CA 91711 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Heath Barnhart Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 1:05 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Horizontal AP mounting options I've been doing the same thing with our Ruckus units. It should work with anything that uses twist-clips for mounting on a ceiling grid. The ones I get are 1/2 wide, so the clips slide on but are very snug. The local hardware store has them in white and black, which has been fine for the few locations I've needed them, though it would cost to much more to spray paint them the necessary color. Plus they are several times cheaper than what the vendors are pointing me to. -- Heath Barnhart, CCNA ITS Network Administrator Washburn University 785-670-2307 -Original Message- From: Craig Eyre ce...@mtroyal.ca Reply-to: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Horizontal AP mounting options Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:10:41 -0600 We just used an L bracket and attached it to the original mounting plate that came with the ap. Cheap/Easy and can barely see the L bracket when installed. (See attached file: l bracket.jpg) Craig Eyre Network Analyst IT Services Department Mount Royal University 4825 Mount Royal Gate SW Calgary AB T2P 3T5 P. 403.440.5199 E. ce...@mtroyal.ca The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will. Vincent T. Lombardi Inactive hide details for Scott Allen ---10/23/2013 08:55:43 AM---We are using the Model 1029-00 to meet horizontal/height requScott Allen ---10/23/2013 08:55:43 AM---We are using the Model 1029-00 to meet horizontal/height requirements for the Cisco 3500/3600 APs an From: Scott Allen sc...@georgetown.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU, Date: 10/23/2013 08:55 AM Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Horizontal AP mounting options Sent by: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU We are using the Model 1029-00 to meet horizontal/height requirements for the Cisco 3500/3600 APs and are very happy with it. Simple and low profile. -Scott On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Vlade Ristevski vrist...@ramapo.edu wrote: Hello All, I was doing a little research on Cisco's site about mounting options and came across this guide: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/technology/apdeploy/Cisco_Aironet.html . We are deploying a bunch of 1602's and 2602's and they recommend mounting them horizontally. There are areas where they need to be wall mounted and none of the ceiling mounts or brackets are an option. They recommend the Oberon P/N 1029-00, . It looks a bit overpriced for what it is and ugly IMO. http://www.oberonwireless.com/hard-lid_wall-mounted-access-point-enclosures.php http://www.provantage.com/oberon-1029-00~7OBER009.htm http://www.provantage.com/oberon-1029-00%7E7OBER009.htm Does anyone know of any other options? Thanks, -- Vlad Ristevski Network Manager Ramapo College ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Cisco 3700 AP
For those interested, Cisco released information about their new 3700 series access point with built-in 802.11ac. Likely won't be able to purchase it for at least a month or so. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5678/ps13367/data_sheet_c78-729421.html -- Andy Page Network Design Professional University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 Go Irish! ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Cisco P.I. 2.0 Release
All, For those interested, it appears P.I. 2.0 has been released, which is earlier than I expected. Below is a link to the release notes. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/net_mgmt/prime/infrastructure/2.0/release/notes/cpi_rn.html Andy -- Andy Page Network Design Professional University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 Go Irish! ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] $100 11ac Modules for Cisco 3600 APs- ?
There is a 3700 coming out next year that will have ac built in. Not sure what the price will be, but may be worth waiting for. -- Andy Page Network Design Professional University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 Go Irish! - Reply message - From: Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] $100 11ac Modules for Cisco 3600 APs- ? Date: Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:26 AM I was set straight from Cisco on this (and thank them for the clarity): We have a promotional bundle that is set to expire at the end of July which provides a 3602 AP and AC module for $1595 list, which is $100 more than the usual 3602 list of $1495. -Lee Lee H. Badman Network Architect/Wireless TME ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Lee H Badman [lhbad...@syr.edu] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 9:11 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] $100 11ac Modules for Cisco 3600 APs- ? Word on Twitter is that Cisco is running a deal on their 3602 11ac radio modules for $100 each, but I can find nothing on Cisco site. Anyone else hear/see this one? Lee H. Badman Network Architect/Wireless TME ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Zigbee equipment
All, We are looking at utilizing the zigbee equipment for the remodel of our on-campus hotel. Does anyone have any experience with using this at a fellow University, and how it mixes with an enterprise wireless network? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Page Network Design Professional University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 Go Irish! ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Disabling 802.11b speeds
We only went with the option of turning off the data rates, so I can't attest to what your consultant is telling you, but the way we did it worked exactly as we intended. Here's a look at the settings from one of our controllers. [cid:image001.png@01CE1C06.6466E710] Andy Page University of Notre Dame From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Nord Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 1:53 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Disabling 802.11b speeds Sorry to drum up an old thread, but I am contemplating disabling 802.11b. We have not had any users on 'b' in the last 6 months and are confident about turning it off. One question I do have for those of you that use Cisco controllers, is how are you turning 'b' off? I talked to a network consultant and they said to go into each WLAN and set the Radio Policy option to 802.11a/g Only and that would take care of it. It looks like most in this thread change the data rates to disabled under Wireless 802.11b/g/n Network. I am curious to know which method is better and what your settings look like. We are running code line 7.0 but will be upgrading to 7.2 soon if that makes a difference. Thanks, Alan On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Jeffrey Sessler j...@scrippscollege.edumailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu wrote: So if you have a dense deployment of AP's, then leaving the lower rates enabled should not present an issue - at least I've not seen one. Additionally, as my campus is 75% Macintosh, they tend to connect at 5GHz, so I don't mind having the lower rates enabled in 2.4GHz to help out all the gaming devices and such. Jeff On Thursday, September 27, 2012 at 5:54 AM, in message pine.osx.4.64.1209270744420@thall.its.msstate.edumailto:pine.osx.4.64.1209270744420@thall.its.msstate.edu, Todd M. Hall t...@msstate.edumailto:t...@msstate.edu wrote: This has been discussed in the past, but it has been a long time. We're at the point that we have to turn off the lower connection rates on our campus. I'm curious what other schools have done and the positive/negative results from the changes. We have disabled 1, 2, 5.5, and 11 Mbps in some of our buildings with great success, but some might argue to just eliminate 1 2 Mbps rates. Also, I'd be interested to hear from schools that have not disabled these rates and why not. -- Todd M. Hall Sr. Network Analyst Information Technology Services Mississippi State University t...@msstate.edumailto:t...@msstate.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.http://www.educause.edu/groups/ ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Alan Nord, CCNA Network Administrator Information Technology Services Macalester College 1600 Grand Avenue St. Paul, MN 55105 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. inline: image001.png
Prime Infrastructure 1.3
All, Just a heads-up, Prime Infrastructure 1.3 was released today. This is the version that supports the 7.4 controller code. Andy -- Andy Page Network Design Professional University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 Go Irish! ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: WLC 7.4
From what I understand, it will work with 1.2, you just won't be able to use the new features from 7.4. -- Andy Page Network Design Professional University of Notre Dame 574.631.6592 Go Irish! - Reply message - From: Rick Coloccia coloc...@geneseo.edu To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Cc: Andy Page ap...@nd.edu Subject: WLC 7.4 Date: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 9:18 AM Indeed, 7.4 was just released, but it requires NCS/PI 1.3, which is not yet available: WLC Version 7.4.100.0 will need Prime Infrastructure Version 1.3 to be managed, Version 1.3 is not yet available to download at this point of time So we wait... On 12/18/2012 1:04 PM, Andy Page wrote: In case you didn't notice, 7.4 was just release. An interesting snippet from the release notes regarding apple devices... •Support for the Multicast DNS (mDNS) protocol is introduced. Multicast DNS (mDNS) service discovery provides the ability for wireless clients to access Apple services such as Apple Printer and Apple TV advertised in a different Layer 3 network. mDNS performs DNS queries over IP multicast. mDNS supports zero configuration IP networking. As a standard, mDNS uses multicast IP address 224.0.0.251 as the destination address and 5353 as the UDP destination port. Andy Page University of Notre Dame -- Rick Coloccia, Jr. Network Manager State University of NY College at Geneseo 1 College Circle, 119 South Hall Geneseo, NY 14454 V: 585-245-5577 F: 585-245-5579
WLC 7.4
In case you didn't notice, 7.4 was just release. An interesting snippet from the release notes regarding apple devices... •Support for the Multicast DNS (mDNS) protocol is introduced. Multicast DNS (mDNS) service discovery provides the ability for wireless clients to access Apple services such as Apple Printer and Apple TV advertised in a different Layer 3 network. mDNS performs DNS queries over IP multicast. mDNS supports zero configuration IP networking. As a standard, mDNS uses multicast IP address 224.0.0.251 as the destination address and 5353 as the UDP destination port. Andy Page University of Notre Dame
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted
Not sure if anyone noticed this, but Prime Infrastructure 1.2 was released yesterday. Looking at the options for download, and a patch must be installed if upgrading from NCS 1.1.x to Prime Infrastructure 1.2. Is it possible that there isn’t going to be a NCS 1.2, and this is now what we are supposed to use? http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/docs/net_mgmt/prime/infrastructure/1.2/release/notes/cpi_rn.html#wp50451 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:53 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted Mercy… From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]mailto:[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of leo song Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:31 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted My guts feeling and past experience tell me that NCS Prime is the only way to go. -Original Message- From: Bruce Boardman board...@syr.edumailto:bruce%20boardman%20%3cboard...@syr.edu%3e Reply-to: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:07:50 + TAC mentioned today that NCS 1.2 was comming out any day (they had the release notes) and that Cisco Works LMS was being rolled in. Sounds messy. I'm thinking WCS may be the way to go for the wireless management if that train is going to be maintained. Any thoughts? |Bruce Boardman, Network Engineer, Syracuse University - 315 889-1667 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Garry Peirce [pei...@maine.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:14 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted I also see that if using NCS, 1.2 is required (if using NCS) which does not appear to be available yet. As well as VM WLCs , it looks like a new huge controller on the block , the 8500 (8510?) – only info I could find is below. https://www-uk.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/7.3/configuration/guide/b_wlc-cg_chapter_01.html#topic_667F106CD23C411591B609092DAF7BAE From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]mailto:[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Robertson, Joshua A. Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:24 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted Just a heads up Cisco has posted WLC 7.3 code, release notes are at http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/release/notes/crn73.html It has some interesting new features like true HA, support for the 2600 series APs, and virtual controllers. Also the ability to disable IPV6 has been restored. Josh Robertson Network Systems Senior Engineer Old Dominion University Office of Computing Communications Services (757)683-5046 j2rob...@odu.edumailto:j2rob...@odu.edu http://occs.odu.edu/ ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Leo Song, Senior Analyst Cluster Lead Computing and Communication Services - Networking and Security University of Guelph (519) 824-4120callto:+1%28519%29%20824-4120 x 53181 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted
Ok, some more supporting documentation to my theory. In the release notes of WLC 7.3, you will find this… “The 7.3.101.0 controller software release is not compatible with Cisco Prime Network Control System (NCS) 1.1.1.24. Cisco Prime Infrastructure 1.2 is required to support the new features in controllers introduced in the 7.3.101.0 controller software release. Cisco Prime Infrastructure 1.2 is the subsequent version of Cisco Prime Network Control System (NCS) 1.1.1.24.” Maybe this is common knowledge to everyone already, but I was expecting a NCS 1.2, which two of our Sales Engineers told me was coming out Today, when in fact it appears there will not be one. Pretty confusing… but I’m glad I didn’t upgrade before finding out that it requires WLC 7.3 be installed first, that could have been bad. Andy From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Andy Page Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:59 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted Not sure if anyone noticed this, but Prime Infrastructure 1.2 was released yesterday. Looking at the options for download, and a patch must be installed if upgrading from NCS 1.1.x to Prime Infrastructure 1.2. Is it possible that there isn’t going to be a NCS 1.2, and this is now what we are supposed to use? http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/docs/net_mgmt/prime/infrastructure/1.2/release/notes/cpi_rn.html#wp50451 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]mailto:[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:53 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted Mercy… From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]mailto:[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of leo song Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:31 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted My guts feeling and past experience tell me that NCS Prime is the only way to go. -Original Message- From: Bruce Boardman board...@syr.edumailto:bruce%20boardman%20%3cboard...@syr.edu%3e Reply-to: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:07:50 + TAC mentioned today that NCS 1.2 was comming out any day (they had the release notes) and that Cisco Works LMS was being rolled in. Sounds messy. I'm thinking WCS may be the way to go for the wireless management if that train is going to be maintained. Any thoughts? |Bruce Boardman, Network Engineer, Syracuse University - 315 889-1667 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Garry Peirce [pei...@maine.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:14 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted I also see that if using NCS, 1.2 is required (if using NCS) which does not appear to be available yet. As well as VM WLCs , it looks like a new huge controller on the block , the 8500 (8510?) – only info I could find is below. https://www-uk.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/7.3/configuration/guide/b_wlc-cg_chapter_01.html#topic_667F106CD23C411591B609092DAF7BAE From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]mailto:[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Robertson, Joshua A. Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:24 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 7.3 Posted Just a heads up Cisco has posted WLC 7.3 code, release notes are at http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/release/notes/crn73.html It has some interesting new features like true HA, support for the 2600 series APs, and virtual controllers. Also the ability to disable IPV6 has been restored. Josh Robertson Network Systems Senior Engineer Old Dominion University Office of Computing Communications Services (757)683-5046 j2rob...@odu.edumailto:j2rob...@odu.edu http://occs.odu.edu/ ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http
WCS to NCS migration trouble
Hello, I'm wondering if anyone else had trouble with WCS to NCS migration... We just bought Cisco NCS, managed to get it installed (virtual appliance, fwiw) and seems to work well in the short amount of time I've played with it. We wanted to import everything from WCS, so I followed the instructions on upgrading it to a version that allowed for exporting (7.0.230.0), which produced wcs.zip. On the NCS server (1.1.0.58), we were unable to get it to connect via ftp to our ftp server to grab the zip, but sftp seemed to work (the 'show rep repname' command worked, where it wouldn't with ftp). Anyhow, I ran the 'ncs migrate wcs-data wcs.zip rep ncs-ftp-repo' command and only received the below output... Initiating WCS 7x DB restore . Please wait... INFO: no staging url defined, using local space.rval:2 Is this normal? Should I see a status somewhere? I've let the thing go for hours with nothing else showing up on the screen. Ctrl-C sends me back to exec mode where I can start ncs again, but after logging into NCS, I see no new data (controllers, mse, etc). If you went the WCS to NCS migration route, how was your experience? Thanks, Andy Page Network Design Professional University of Notre Dame ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: WCS to NCS migration trouble
Thank you for the response, glad to know it isn't just us. Out of curiosity, how large was your wcs.zip file? From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hurt,Trenton William Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:39 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS to NCS migration trouble Mine ran for 10hrs, and then it was just done. They seem to have left out any type of progress meter for this as well as when you apply an update to NCS. I did work with TAC on an issue during an upgrade and they did a rootkit and where able to run a ps aux from cli to watch the process. He joked that this was the progress meter. I have put in for a feature request to get some kind of status bar added for this issue. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]mailto:[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Andy Page Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:44 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS to NCS migration trouble Hello, I'm wondering if anyone else had trouble with WCS to NCS migration... We just bought Cisco NCS, managed to get it installed (virtual appliance, fwiw) and seems to work well in the short amount of time I've played with it. We wanted to import everything from WCS, so I followed the instructions on upgrading it to a version that allowed for exporting (7.0.230.0), which produced wcs.zip. On the NCS server (1.1.0.58), we were unable to get it to connect via ftp to our ftp server to grab the zip, but sftp seemed to work (the 'show rep repname' command worked, where it wouldn't with ftp). Anyhow, I ran the 'ncs migrate wcs-data wcs.zip rep ncs-ftp-repo' command and only received the below output... Initiating WCS 7x DB restore . Please wait... INFO: no staging url defined, using local space.rval:2 Is this normal? Should I see a status somewhere? I've let the thing go for hours with nothing else showing up on the screen. Ctrl-C sends me back to exec mode where I can start ncs again, but after logging into NCS, I see no new data (controllers, mse, etc). If you went the WCS to NCS migration route, how was your experience? Thanks, Andy Page Network Design Professional University of Notre Dame ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
