Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi 6E Branding Rant
Hi, Let’s be honest, the requirement for a brand are being defined by the technical marketing leads so we end up with numbers and confusion, until someone embraces a consumer/customer centric naming convention confusion will reign. Remember the alternative is these standards get named things like “Orange” “O2” “Scion” “Lollipop” etc… Which is worst? C From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Samuel Clements Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv Date: Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 16:10 To: Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi 6E Branding Rant I concur - it's a messy situation, and one that's not made any better by the likes of AT (5Ge anyone?). If I had a nickel for everyone that thought that 5Ge was 5G and/or that Wi-Fi 6 was 6GHz, I'd have a whole ton of nickels... I'm not sure that Wi-Fi 7 representing 6GHz would have been much better - all the 5s and 6s are bound to be confusing - and making the 7 mean 6 would just exacerbate the problem for a non technical crowd anyway. I mean, these are the same people that can't understand why 802.11 amendments are lower case - and why 802.1X is okay. Technical people gonna technical... -Sam On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 8:40 AM Jennifer Minella wrote: LOL. You’re not wrong… it’s a tough challenge. It *is* still WiFi 6 (802.11ax) so WiFi 7 would be confusing. I think the best way I’ve seen it consistently used with non-Wi-Fi pros is to call it “WiFi 6- Extended” meaning it’s extended in to other RF spectrum. That’s not official but I think even Chuck uses that moniker for it. The more common confusion we run in to is people thinking the “6” in WiFi 6E means 6GHz. I’m sure other folks here have some additional ideas for keeping it straight for non-WiFI peeps. As for us, we just constantly re-iterate what 6E is (and isn’t) pretty much every time the phrase comes out of our mouths, even if that means multiple times in a webinar, Tech Talk, or client meeting. You’re in good company with your frustration though -jj ___ Jennifer Minella, CISSP, HP MASE VP of Engineering & Security Carolina Advanced Digital, Inc. www.cadinc.com j...@cadinc.com 919.460.1313 Main Office 919.539.2726 Mobile/text From: Green, William C Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 6:52 PM Subject: Wi-Fi 6E Branding Rant "Wi-Fi 6E” is not a good branding for what 6GHz provides, in my personal opinion. I hope the Wi-Fi Alliance reconsiders. I've been discussing Wi-Fi 6E in my organization for over a year-- and nobody can keep that “E” in their heads. They constantly confuse "Wi-Fi 6" as the same as "Wi-Fi 6E" in meetings, products, and strategies. The whole point of the Alliance branding was to make things more understandable to non-technical audiences right? Doesn’t 6 vs 6E fly in the face of that? I’m not good at naming things, so am use to recognizing branding failures like this. I understand most of the underlying technology is the same-- other than 6GHz capability. Most people don't care about the underlying technology unless it accomplishes something they need. 6GHz is a once in a generation differentiator that will enable far more than the changes from 802.11ac to 802.11ax, which was deserving of a new number. Not having that capability reflected in a more differentiated branding is causing and will continue to cause unneeded confusion. I understand the Alliance has already placed a lot into marketing of the term "Wi-Fi 6E", but that's sunk cost. Pick a new branding. Perhaps, Wi-Fi 7. You can leave all 6E materials and just say its the same thing as Wi-Fi 7. Have everything in the futures pipeline do a +1 on their PowerPoints. Will the Alliance incur some ridicule, yes, but less than continuing with 6E in my personal opinion. Do I think this rant will change anything? No. But naming a frustration is sometimes useful for dealing with it. I’m moving on. -- William Green, Director of Networking and Telecommunications The University of Texas at Austin | ITS | 512-475-9295 | gr...@austin.utexas.edu ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community Visit https://cadinc.com/blog for tech articles and news. ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 8540 Code version- holiday work
Michael, We had similar issues earlier in the year with 8.8 code on AireOS controllers specifically with MacOS and IOS clients and had to do a lot of digging into arp on the AP and locally conncted switch, it seems the Apple devices were poisoning arp but sending out responses on behalf of the local gateway, it's worth investigating in this area. Just another pointer, its seems the software end of life is actually related to your 8510 WLC, seems the 700w are supported on later WLC like 3504, 5520, 8540 running 8.8 or 8.10, if you can get hold of a later WLC or spin up a VM temporarily and move some AP access to a later version of code it may help you determine if it’s a known bug that has already been fixed in later versions. Rgds Carlo On 09/12/2020, 01:09, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Michael Vinson" wrote: Kyle, I wanted to reply to your post... We have Cisco 702W APs in our residence halls and have been fighting issues with wireless for many months now. This issue seemed to appear this fall semester. Students are complaining they are getting disconnected from wireless or not being able to get connected to wireless. We have been able to reproduce the issue on an iPhone, iMac, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air. We also had several Windows laptops fail one day while testing, but this happened to use only once. We are also having reports of other devices such as Android phones or other BYOD devices, but the main complaint is coming from Apple devices. What we have seen while testing with Apple devices is the AP and WLC show the device connected. The users wireless device also shows that it is connected to the SSID, but when the issue is happening you can't pass any traffic. Everything will be working fine (pings and a streaming YouTube video) and all of a sudden the pings will stop and YouTube will fail after the buffer is exhausted. Some times it will come back after a short amount of time or we have seen it not come back for over an hour. What is interesting is while one or more of the devices are experiencing issues, we have other devices working off the same AP just fine. We are using Cisco 8510 WLCs running 8.5.161.7 The previous semester we were running 8.5.140We initially upgraded this fall to 8.5.161.4, then down graded to 8.5.140 and then upgraded to 8.5.161.7 based on recommendations from Cisco. All these version have had issues. Students have said if the go to Campus buildings, dens or community centers that the wireless works great. The APs in these locations are 3702 or 3802 APs. We have done a small amount of testing with a 1815 and have not experienced any issues on this. We have been working with Cisco and Apple for help, but have had no solution at this time. Cisco has also told us that the 702W AP no longer has software support, so if this issue is due to a Cisco bug that it will not be fixed. Michael Vinson Iowa State University, IT Services Network Engineer ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Article: Android 11 tightens restrictions on CA certificates
Hi Jamie, In a Cisco WLC client RUN state is derived from association and authentication states, for any dot1x authenticated WLAN the WLC will only forward or proxy DHCP requests once auth state is passed. If your clients are associated ie connected but not authenticated they won't get an IP address. You can check client auth state or debug them by running the following at the CLI: (6th column below for auth state) (WLC2-DCU) >show client summ Number of Clients 3 GLAN/ RLAN/ MAC Address AP Name Slot Status WLAN Auth Protocol Port Wired Tunnel Role - -- - - - --- 08:3d:88:57:29:be AP1810w_sandycove_44B8 0 Associated 17 Yes 802.11n(2.4 GHz) 13 No No Local ac:5f:3e:c1:d9:11 AP1810w_sandycove_44B8 0 Associated 17 Yes 802.11n(2.4 GHz) 13 No No Local f8:3f:51:3a:8d:92 AP1810w_sandycove_4690 1 Associated 17 Yes 802.11ac(5 GHz) 13 No No Local then run a “show client detail ” and scroll down to look for EAP message timeouts or failures. Number of Interim-Update Sent.. 0 Number of EAP Id Request Msg Timeouts.. 0 Number of EAP Id Request Msg Failures.. 0 Number of EAP Request Msg Timeouts. 0 Number of EAP Request Msg Failures. 0 Number of EAP Key Msg Timeouts. 1 Number of EAP Key Msg Failures. 0 Number of Data Retries. 1220 Number of RTS Retries.. 0 Number of Duplicate Received Packets... 0 Number of Decrypt Failed Packets... 0 Number of Mic Failured Packets. 0 Number of Mic Missing Packets.. 0 Number of RA Packets Dropped... 0 Number of Policy Errors 0 Radio Signal Strength Indicator -69 dBm Signal to Noise Ratio.. 26 dB “debug aaa events enable” can also help. Rgds Carlo On 11/09/2020, 21:25, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Floyd, Brad" wrote: Jamie, Not getting an IP address (assuming no IP infrastructure / routing failure) could definitely be a result of a certificate failure during the 4-way handshake, therefore causing an 802.1X failure. I believe there is a particular step in the 4-way handshake that likely indicates a certificate failure, but I don't remember off the top of my head which one it is. Thanks, Brad -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Price, Jamie G Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 1:14 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Article: Android 11 tightens restrictions on CA certificates On our Cisco controllers, I see some devices "connected" and they should be issued a DHCP address in this network. They are not getting an IP address (0.0.0.0). Is this a symptom they are not passing with the cert? Thus failing 802.1x? Thank you -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Higgins, Benjamin J Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 7:19 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Article: Android 11 tightens restrictions on CA certificates Can confirm that this "feature" has prevented SecureW2 from onboarding Android 11 devices to our network. While the app appears to *deliver* the certificates - they are in the drop down when you edit the WiFi Profile - if you attempt to connect to the network is sits and spins. If you edit the profile again, you will find that the SecureW2 delivered certificate is no longer in the drop down list. Only "Use system certificates" or "Do not validate" is there... -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Jonathan Waldrep Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 8:39 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Article: Android 11 tightens restrictions on CA certificates On 2020-09-10 22:19:21, Johnson, Christopher wrote: > This popped up in my news feed, that's going to affect the user experience even more for onboarding apps for those with private CAs I'd imagine. > >
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Instability issues?
Hi, Sounds similar to the Apple ARP spoofing problem from the summer that hit a few manufacturers that use local switching models, I’d start with checking ARP tables on client, AP, switch, router to make sure everything is as it should be. Rgds Carlo From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of "Glassman, Stephen" Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv Date: Saturday, 11 January 2020 at 15:18 To: Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Instability issues? Hi John, We’ve experienced intermittent issues with our AP230’s since around Thanksgiving but are only hearing about it from others-we have not witnessed the issue first hand. The symptom seems to be that the client is connected but cannot get to the internet or if they can it’s really slow but the issue seems to come and go and it’s certainly not affecting everyone…. On Jan 11, 2020, at 1:01 AM, John Rodkey wrote: Are others who are using Aerohive 650 experiencing instability issues? We have experienced a rather extensive problem that came with sudden onset about 1/4/2020 . Clients appear to be able to connect to the AP, get an IP and are able to ping the default gateway, but not beyond. The ethernet network is unaffected, and the gateway is able to ping the rest of the network and the AP, but not the client. John ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC & ISE combo issues
Hi, Have you had a look at the AAA server statistics, will list number of auth requests, passes, fails, timeout etc.. example output below, may help focus the investigation. Of course a ‘debug client ’ always helps Example output: (wlc01) >show radius auth statistics Authentication Servers: Server Index. 1 Server Address... 10.203.251.110 Msg Round Trip Time.. 41087 (usec) Average Msg Round Trip Time.. 154 (usec) Exponential Msg Round Trip Time.. 37068 (usec) First Requests... 303910 Retry Requests... 42 Accept Responses. 22698 Reject Responses. 213 Challenge Responses.. 280986 Malformed Msgs... 0 Bad Authenticator Msgs... 0 Pending Requests. 0 Timeout Requests. 42 Consecutive Drops ... 0 Unknowntype Msgs. 0 Other Drops.. 13 AuthZ Requests... 0 AuthZ Accept Responses... 0 AuthZ Reject Responses... 0 --More-- or (q)uit Server Index. 2 Server Address... 10.128.50.42 Msg Round Trip Time.. 154643 (usec) Average Msg Round Trip Time.. 163837 (usec) Exponential Msg Round Trip Time.. 208352 (usec) First Requests... 24776 Retry Requests... 34 Accept Responses. 24380 Reject Responses. 396 Challenge Responses.. 0 Malformed Msgs... 0 Bad Authenticator Msgs... 0 Pending Requests. 0 Timeout Requests. 34 Consecutive Drops ... 0 Unknowntype Msgs. 0 Other Drops.. 0 AuthZ Requests... 0 AuthZ Accept Responses... 0 AuthZ Reject Responses... 0 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Mathieu Sturm Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv Date: Wednesday, 9 October 2019 at 08:11 To: Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC & ISE combo issues The WLC is on version 8.3.140.0 (we still have 2600 series AP’s that we need to replace so we are pretty limited) and ISE is 2.2 (patch 5). Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv Namens Letts, Richard J Verzonden: dinsdag 8 oktober 2019 22:41 Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC & ISE combo issues What version of core on the WLC / what model of AP? We had an issue at the start of the year with version of code on cisco 3500 series AP where clients would successful authenticate with the AP, but the association would never get passed from the AP through to the controller and thence on to the ISE. Clients would get a ‘bad password’ (or similar type of error) displayed on their computer which would confuse them, and there would be nothing recorded in the WLC or ISE logs. Authentication and Association isn’t the way around people normally think of this. https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/WiFi_Basics_and_Best_Practices/802.11_Association_process_explained anyway, I think you’re going to need to include version numbers of the ISE and WLC code for more help. Thank you Richard Letts From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Mathieu Sturm Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 2:50 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC & ISE combo issues Hello, since the start of the new academic year we’ve been having some troubles with our Cisco setup. We have 3 Cisco WLC 5520’s (one of these is standby), around 850ap’s and 5 Cisco ISE’s (1 admin node, 1 monitor node and 3 radius-only nodes). We have this setup since 2018. There were some problems sometimes but nothing major. Now recently it’s taking a long time for people to get connected. We have around 20k students and 3K staff with peaks to nearly 9K associations. The problem is that it is difficult to get connected sometimes. I see the user trying to connect in the WLC’s but don’t see them trying in the ISE’s (it looks like the attempt gets lost somewher). I can see the following worrying log message in the
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Internet Connectivity Issues
Hi Sean, Agree with your sentiment, as just as another, we heard recently that .125 would be the last MR in the 8.8 train, forcing customers over to 8.10 for mainline which has not even been released yet… It’s taken a year for 8.8 to get stable enough for a relatively stress-free life, and just as I type this our 3504’s have started flipping between HA pairs for another eventful afternoon. C From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of "Gray, Sean" Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv Date: Tuesday, 24 September 2019 at 15:59 To: Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Internet Connectivity Issues Hi Carlo, We will be upgrading to the TAC recommended 8.8.125.0 later tonight. We thought that this could eliminate some problems and at least squash a few bugs that we may be running into. I really wish Cisco would make an MD release available for the 8.8 train, it seems to have been a continual ED train since it came out of the gate. Thanks Sean Sean Gray | B.Sc (Hons) Voice, Collaboration & Wireless Network Analyst ITS, University of Lethbridge From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Carlo Terminiello Sent: September 24, 2019 7:41 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Internet Connectivity Issues Hi, We were hit with similar problems across multiple sites on earlier 8.8 builds, now running the latest/ last 8.8.125.3 escalation build from Cisco on multiple controllers with stable results. We are seeing one issue with MBP whereby they remain associated and on session timeout stop forwarding traffic. This is a corner case and yet to be successfully identified as a bug by Cisco TAC. Rgds Carlo On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 14:18, John Turner wrote: I second Mark's suggestion - we've detected this problem at nearly a dozen of our higher ed and enterprise customers. Seems that the issue is between a waking macbook and an android https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/wireless/aironet-3800-series-access-points/214491-arp-responses-for-default-gateway-ip-add.html Traditional tools aren't finding this - we are detecting a drop in traffic as well as the duplicate gateway address that triggers an advisory alert. John On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:57 AM Mark Reboli wrote: Look into the Issue with apple sleeping devices changing their IPs to your gateway. We experienced this causing intermitted issues. Take a look at the link below: https://community.meraki.com/t5/Wireless-LAN/Help-Windows-client-receiving-incorrect-MAC-address-of-Gateway/td-p/39963 If you have any questions please feel free to contact me off line m Mark Reboli Network/Telecom Manager Misericordia University (570) 674-6753 This e-mail and accompanying attachments are confidential. The information is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this e-mail communication by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately by returning this message to the sender and delete all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ethan Grinnell Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:04 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Internet Connectivity Issues External Email: Do not click any links or open any attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe. What AP models do you have? We're still on AireOS 8.5.144.33. The COS APs have been running pretty well for us. We've had intermittent issues on IOS APs though. The radios periodically reset and can't seem to clear some packets. Once an AP starts having issues the radio may even cycle every few minutes indefinitely. Do you monitor the AP syslogs? Here are the bug IDs for this: CSCvp86151 IOS APs radio reset with code 44, mostly seen on 2.4GHz radio CSCvp66546 702w Radio reset due to tx stuck The first one doesn't have a real solution yet, we're running debug images to capture more information. TAC says it might be related to high QBSS, but I saw an AP report high QBSS with no other APs or other known Wi-Fi sources above -80 dBm, so I'm not convinced. The 702W bug has a good debug image in place though. TAC found that stranded packets for clients in power save mode (mostly Murata or Samsung S10 devices) would accumulate in memory and after 60 seconds the AP radio resets to clear the packets. But the reset didn't clear them (or more accumulated) so it just continues resetting the radio. The fixed image discards packets that couldn't be transmitted after 20 seconds, without resetting the radio. It also has a coun
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Internet Connectivity Issues
;> >> We have also experienced AVC crippling our network. Once the traffic >> volumes are higher than X. Performance goes south and can get to 0. >> >> >> >> Nothing else similar to your description, though that issue was on 8.2 >> and we are currently 8.5 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jason Cook >> >> Information Technology and Digital Services >> >> The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 >> >> --- >> >> This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains >> information which may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the >> intended recipient please do not read, save, forward, disclose, or copy the >> contents of this email. If this email has been sent to you in error, please >> notify the sender by reply email and delete this email and any copies or >> links to this email completely and immediately from your system. No >> representation is made that this email is free of viruses. Virus scanning >> is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. >> >> >> >> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv < >> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Lee H Badman >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2019 9:25 AM >> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Internet Connectivity Issues >> >> >> >> Are you running AVC? If so, you might try disabling. It has caused us no >> end of trouble in the past, similar symptoms. One man’s opinion from past >> experience. >> >> Lee Badman (mobile) >> >> >> On Sep 23, 2019, at 7:49 PM, Gray, Sean wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> >> >> We are getting reports of internet connectivity issues from our wireless >> users. The problem is very temperamental with users bouncing from being >> able to browse & access App content flawlessly, to experiencing a complete >> failure to browse to websites and refresh App content. As an example I was >> able to successfully test Instagram via Safari on an iPhone, and >> simultaneously fail to see the same content on the Instagram App on the >> same phone. >> >> >> >> At this point we are struggling to narrow down the root cause. We have >> looked at everything from traffic volume to ISP instabilities. But as yet >> there is no consistent smoking gun. My reason for reaching out to the group >> is we are running slightly dated code on our HA pair of 5520s. We are >> running 8.8.111 and plan to upgrade to the latest release as soon as >> possible. But I’m wondering if anyone out there is running 8.8.111 that >> have seen or is seeing similar issues. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Sean >> >> ** >> Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire >> community list. 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If you want to reply only to the person who sent the >> message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. >> Additional participation and subscription information can be found at >> https://www.educause.edu/community >> > > > -- > *John Turner* - *Head of Customer Success* > *jtur...@nyansa.com * > (339) 225-0198 > Join the Voyers Slack Community! <https://voyers-slack.nyansa.com/> > > ** > Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire > community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the > message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. > Additional participation and subscription information can be found at > https://www.educause.edu/community > -- Carlo Terminiello Director Repy Consulting Ltd +44 7730 711 486 ca...@repyconsulting.com This message may contain confidential information, be legally privileged and/or protected by copyright. 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