Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ticket Master Wireless Scanners- Campus sporting Venues, Campus Wireless
This is exactly what we did as well with Ticketmaster. I just have to remember I can't use channel 1 in that area. Caroline Owens Networking and Telecommunications Saint Joseph's University (610) 660-1613 - Original Message - From: Marcelo Lew marcelo@du.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 11:40:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ticket Master Wireless Scanners- Campus sporting Venues, Campus Wireless We did as a separate network (physically and logically). We agreed on giving up channel 6 on the areas where they operated. Last summer we moved to Paciolan (TM competitor), they run on our Aruba infrastructure but terminate the traffic on their own router, which has a VPN tunnel back to their data center. Works better this way as we can turn on that particular SSID anywhere on campus as needed. It is always on in certain areas (sporting venues). Marcelo Lew Wireless Enterprise Administrator University Technology Services University of Denver Desk: (303) 871-6523 Cell: (303) 669-4217 Fax: (303) 871-5900 Email: m...@du.edu From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:08 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ticket Master Wireless Scanners- Campus sporting Venues, Campus Wireless Does anyone else have Ticket Master scanners in use, wirelessly checking tickets for validity at your sporting venues that also have your campus wireless in the facility? Are you running with Ticket master’s own WLAN as a competing wireless island alongside yours, or were you able to adapt your WLAN to accommodate a TM SSID and vlan? Thanks- Lee Badman ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. . ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ticket Master Wireless Scanners- Campus sporting Venues, Campus Wireless
We currently are using the Meru infrastructure on their Single-Channel architecture and I don't use a 40MHz channel-width on our 2.4GHZ radios so it's not affecting us as far as I can tell And these areas are NOT dense deployment areas... hope that helps! Caroline Owens Networking and Telecommunications Saint Joseph's University (610) 660-1613 - Original Message - From: Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:00:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ticket Master Wireless Scanners- Campus sporting Venues, Campus Wireless Thanks everyone. Marcelo and Caroline- have you found that giving up a channel is problematic to your own system? I’m guessing you don’t have real dense deployments in the facilities? Again- thanks for the dialogue. -Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Adjunct Instructor, iSchool Syracuse University 315 443-3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcelo Lew Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 11:41 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ticket Master Wireless Scanners- Campus sporting Venues, Campus Wireless We did as a separate network (physically and logically). We agreed on giving up channel 6 on the areas where they operated. Last summer we moved to Paciolan (TM competitor), they run on our Aruba infrastructure but terminate the traffic on their own router, which has a VPN tunnel back to their data center. Works better this way as we can turn on that particular SSID anywhere on campus as needed. It is always on in certain areas (sporting venues). Marcelo Lew Wireless Enterprise Administrator University Technology Services University of Denver Desk: (303) 871-6523 Cell: (303) 669-4217 Fax: (303) 871-5900 Email: m...@du.edu From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:08 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ticket Master Wireless Scanners- Campus sporting Venues, Campus Wireless Does anyone else have Ticket Master scanners in use, wirelessly checking tickets for validity at your sporting venues that also have your campus wireless in the facility? Are you running with Ticket master’s own WLAN as a competing wireless island alongside yours, or were you able to adapt your WLAN to accommodate a TM SSID and vlan? Thanks- Lee Badman ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3912 - Release Date: 09/22/11 . ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue...
Fantastic! you really had everyone... Caroline Owens Networking and Telecommunications Saint Joseph's University (610) 660-1613 On 4/1/2011 3:08 PM, Hanset, Philippe C wrote: I have been thinking about continuing the debate, but it is April 2nd in Australia... I did write check the date at the end of my email, though! Sorry all, I had more fun reading the responses than writing my silly April's fool. Have a great W-E, Philippe On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Jeffrey Sessler wrote: That's just not right. These people are adults, and as such, should be able to decide on their own if they are going to attend class. The college is not their parents, and it's not a daycare. This is a behavior issue with needs addressing, and disabling the technology is not the answer. What's next, disable WiFi if that don't take out the trash from their dorm room, or decide not to shower, or protest some decision the campus made, etc? Will you disable WiFi except in the stadium during a game, so as to force students to attend? Something wicked this way comes, and it's at UTK. I'm curious, does your honor code, guide to student life, etc. state that attending class is mandatory? If not, how are you able to levy sanctions against a student for not attending (disable WiFi)? I can see it now... Student doesn't show up for class. Said student is in trouble, but can't the necessary help (send email, make a skype call, etc.) because none of his/her devices can connect to the network. Student becomes seriously ill, or dies, etc. because of this new policy, and the college faces a huge lawsuit. Don't get me wrong, it's an interesting technological solution, but it's still wrong in my book. If a student is not attending class, your dean of students needs to bring the student in for a discussion. Jeff Hanset, Philippe Cphan...@utk.edu 4/1/2011 9:22 AM All, University of Tennessee has had some class attendance issues lately, especially with Sophomores. We came up with a location based wireless solution that could fix this issue. We have built a database of rooms surrounding Access-Points that we correlate with a class roster. Basically if a student is supposed to be in room x at time y, our filtering only allows the student access to a set of access points surrounding that room during that time. No wireless elsewhere. Dormitories are included in the algorithm. If you are doing something similar, we would like to know some of the caveats. Thanks, Philippe Hanset University of TN (Constituent Group Leader of Wireless-LAN@educause) (what's the date?) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android OS 2.2
Thank you so much Bryn. We are looking to start purchasing Droids and these are our test units. I couldn't find this documented as an official bug anywhere but I kept finding sites where users were complaining of the same issue.. Thanks for confirming that I'm not crazy (or at least not about this!) Caroline Owens Networking and Telecommunications Saint Joseph's University (610) 660-1613 On 10/21/2010 4:27 AM, Bryn Jones wrote: Hello Caroline We have seen the same thing with Android 2.2 on our campus, but this is just a reply to let you know you are not alone as we have no solution to share. We are seeing the same symptoms on devices, primarily on our WPA2/Enterprise network, including one 'rooted' device that was working on 2.1 and not working once upgraded to 2.2. It is an interesting point about running the AP on 802.11g only, as we are planning to remove 802.11b support soon and it will be interesting to see if this helps. Regards Bryn Jones ISS Network Development University of Leeds UK -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Caroline Owens Sent: 20 October 2010 16:27 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android OS 2.2 Hi folks, This message will be a repeat for anyone on the Meru listserv, but I wanted to see if anyone had anything to add on an issue I'm having with Droids running OS 2.2. I've seen a lot of reports online about issues after upgrading to 2.2 from 2.1. We are just getting these new (We happen to have the X and the 2) and they are coming installed with 2.2 so I'm not sure what the performance would be at 2.1. The issue is that they may or may not connect at all and then, once connected, will drop and then not be able to connect again. They do seem to work better on an open security network, but we use WPA2/Enterprise here and they are unusable on our primary WLAN. Has anyone had any experiences with this or even (crossing my fingers here), a work around? I've gotten in touch with our Verizon rep but I don't know how much he'll be able to do if the problem is in the OS. I've seen some reports that setting your APs to G-only or putting the droids in Airplane mode (i know, i know - so you trade getting wifi with not getting phone calls - too funny!) will give you a stable connection but neither of those options are practical for us. thanks for any input! Caroline Owens Networking and Telecommunications Saint Joseph's University (610) 660-1613 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n phased deployment approaches
I agree with Jim...I think you can do it, it's just more work and more room for error For example, if you are going to have APs within hearing distance of each other with different band configurations (like b/g vs b/g/n) they need to be on separate ESS profiles at least that's my understanding... Caroline Owens Networking and Telecommunications Saint Joseph's University On 6/3/2010 10:42 AM, James F Eyrich wrote: With Meru it is strongly suggested to do entire buildings at a time. Beyond Meru's suggestions based on how their tech works I still think it is a good idea. User experience would be consistent for the whole building instead of only having better connections in the strategic locations. I also have concerns if bonded channels are deployed on N near standard A APs. -jim On 6/3/2010 9:03 AM, Steve Hess wrote: For anyone who has done a phased deployment of 802.11n gear to replace b/g/a, what have you found to be most effective, a whole building (or floor perhaps) approach or putting N in strategic locations with nearby b/g/a AP's? Any gotcha's or learning experience with either approach? We're an Alcatel (Aruba) shop so direct experience with that gear would be great. Thanks, Steve -- - Steve Hess Network Administrator Wheaton College Phone: 508-286-3404 Fax: 508-286-8270 - ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Fwd: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n phased deployment approaches
I should have been more specific - I was talking about Meru ...sorry about that! Original Message Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n phased deployment approaches Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:02:10 -0400 From: Caroline Owens ow...@sju.edu Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU I agree with Jim...I think you can do it, it's just more work and more room for error For example, if you are going to have APs within hearing distance of each other with different band configurations (like b/g vs b/g/n) they need to be on separate ESS profiles at least that's my understanding... Caroline Owens Networking and Telecommunications Saint Joseph's University On 6/3/2010 10:42 AM, James F Eyrich wrote: With Meru it is strongly suggested to do entire buildings at a time. Beyond Meru's suggestions based on how their tech works I still think it is a good idea. User experience would be consistent for the whole building instead of only having better connections in the strategic locations. I also have concerns if bonded channels are deployed on N near standard A APs. -jim On 6/3/2010 9:03 AM, Steve Hess wrote: For anyone who has done a phased deployment of 802.11n gear to replace b/g/a, what have you found to be most effective, a whole building (or floor perhaps) approach or putting N in strategic locations with nearby b/g/a AP's? Any gotcha's or learning experience with either approach? We're an Alcatel (Aruba) shop so direct experience with that gear would be great. Thanks, Steve -- - Steve Hess Network Administrator Wheaton College Phone: 508-286-3404 Fax: 508-286-8270 - ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Princeton determines cause of an iPad problem
They could create longer lease times and not have an issue if they have only one flat wireless subnet. But if they have several smaller subnets, these longer leases could really add up if a device acquires an IP address from each subnet within a small window of time. You wouldn't want a device hogging two or three other IP addresses on subnets that it's not currently using. On a college campus with students that roam all over and have iPhones, this situation isn't out of the realm of the possible. Caroline Owens Networking and Telecommunications Saint Joseph's University On 4/19/2010 11:27 AM, Jeffrey Sessler wrote: It would seem that Princeton could temporarily (or permanently) avoid the problem, and thus all the media hype and blocking of the iPads, by simply increasing their DHCP lease time from their stated 1-3 hour time to something more reasonable. Unless your base of devices include a large number of drive-bys (devices seen only once and never again), I'm not sure that a lease time of 1-3 hours will result in better DHCP IP address pool use than say a lease time of 24 hours. We toyed with extremely short leases years ago but found they resulted it various device anomalies. We now run with lease times of at least 24 hours and our average IP address consumption changed very little. Jeff "Zeller, Tom S" 04/18/10 8:54 PM http://www.net.princeton.edu/announcements/ipad-iphoneos32-stops-renewing-le ase-keeps-using-IP-address.html iPad gets DHCP lease. If iPad happens to be sleeping during the renewal time it awakens and uses the IP number forever (until shut down of unit or WiFi or going out of range) Tom Zeller Indiana University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPad Experiences
I think that's the first time I've belly-laughed at a message from the listserv Caroline Owens Saint Joseph's University On 4/7/2010 12:01 PM, Lee H Badman wrote: In response to Apples guidance, weve given out the user name and password to our wireless management system so IPad users can configure our access points as they need to fix their connectivity problems. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk - iName.com Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:49 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPad Experiences More here: http://www.fiercemobileit.com/story/apple-ipad-users-report-wifi-connectivity-problems/2010-04-06?utm_medium=nlutm_source=internal Frank From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 1:09 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPad Experiences Has anyone seen much iPad action on their networks yet? I heard today that we have around 10 of them doing Active Sync with email. We had a couple of support calls early Monday indicating problems with our Impulse/SafeConnect NAC system identifying them properly. Since then Impulse put in a patch that apparently fixed it. Our xpressconnect config tool worked fine using their tool, choosing the same option that configs iPods, etc. We have also been testing our own iPad today and havent seen any issues yet. We noticed that the Apples auto config worked as well for our own 802.1x network, with the caveat that it made it possible for someone to fake the certificate. Pete Morrissey ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] PhiHong
Joe, What midspans did you finally settle on? if you don't mind me asking. We've been using Powerdsine and I guess I'm looking for an alternative... This question is open to anyone else who wants to weigh in and thank you in advance! Caroline On 11/10/2009 6:31 PM, Roth, Joe wrote: We ordered some of their managed midspans about 2 years ago, but soon stopped. The quality was terrible. Out of about 10 midspans we had to RMA 5 or 6. Some were DOA. Most had issues with their management card. Of the ones that worked the management piece was a pain to configure and maintain. We even had one of the RMA'd units come back with different issues than we sent it back with. --Joe -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Watters, John Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:41 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] PhiHong I just ordered some of the new high power models (6, 12, 24-port sizes). Some arrived in less than a week. The remaining ones took about 2 weeks. -jcw - John WattersUA: OIT 205-348-3992 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Caroline Owens Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:58 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] PhiHong Does anyone have anything good or bad to say about the PhiHong power injectors? I've historically used the Powerdsine ones and I'm getting shipping lead times of 4 weeks on them all of a sudden from my vendor, so I'm looking for other options. Actually, is anyone else having that problem as well? While I'm on the topic Thanks! Caroline Owens Networking and Telecommunications Saint Joseph's University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] configuration script
Make that one more for seeing the source code... thanks for sharing this Chris! Caroline Owens Networking and Telecommunications Saint Joseph's University Chris Brauchli wrote: Here at Williams we wrote an in-house solution based on the Native WiFi API (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms706556(VS.85).aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms706556%28VS.85%29.aspx) that is doing the job well so far. If anybody wants to see the source code, feel free to email me and I'l happily share it. The nice thing about this solution is that it deletes saved credentials and sets up the 802.1X network for the user. Also, since it's based on Microsoft's provided API, it's likely to continue working for a while. It works on XP SP2 with the Wireless LAN API up. Chris Brauchli ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Meru and Broadcast Suppression
We are using (3) separate /22 networks. We break them out by location.. Scott Irey wrote: Hello, Anyone that is using Meru know how well Meru does broadcast suppression to WLAN clients. Looking at some of my packet captures the broadcast traffic seems to be limited but I do see some broadcasted DHCP packets. I know they claim to do some suppression according to the config guide. It doesnt seem as cut and dry though as compared to how Ciscos WLCs do it. We are looking to possibly expand the size of our subnets for wireless and this plays into that. What are some of the subnet sizes that some of you are using for WLAN? Thanks! Scott Irey Network Telecom Systems Engineer Oakland University Office: 248.370.2808 Mobile: 248.505.9827 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
