Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ISE Dynamic VLAN redirect with single eduroam WLAN

2021-07-07 Thread Jesse Thomas
Hi Sean,

We have a similar setup here, but with WiSM2/9800s. We're also using ISE
2.6 & AD.

I'd be happy to share our notes with you and/or do a Zoom and show you our
policies & configuration.


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On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 12:52 PM Gray, Sean  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
>
>
> We are looking to amalgamate our 3 dot1x WLANs (employees/student/eduroam)
> into a single WLAN (eduroam). Behind the scenes we still need to
> authenticate and route clients to their respective network segment. So to
> achieve this we need to implement dynamic vlan redirects behind the scenes.
>
>
>
> Eduroam users from other institutions will be sent out to eduroam to be
> handled appropriately
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> Authentication will be handled by ISE cluster, running 2.6.0.156
>
> WLC – 5520 (pair) running 8.8.130.0
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>
>
> The process, from a high level should look something like this
>
>- Staff/faculty will connect to our new single WLAN, namely Eduroam
>- They will be caught by the appropriate policy and authenticated
>against AD, validating that they are staff/faculty
>- Now they will be redirected to the appropriate VLAN
>
>
>
>- Student will follow the same process, but will be validated that
>they are a student, and redirected to a different VLAN
>
>
>
>- All others (externals) will be sent to an external RADIUS server for
>auth and then redirected to yet another different VLAN.
>
>
>
> Currently unique policies exist for each of these processes, without the
> added complexities of the VLAN redirect. So my mission is to combine these,
> filtering each client to their auth point, and then upon receiving the
> authorization, assign the appropriate vlan tag, for IP assignment, prior to
> them getting on-net.
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> I’ve been unable to find any meaningful documentation around how to handle
> internal vs external radius redirection in this scenario.
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>
> So has anyone done this, and are they able to share their process,
> inclusive of vlan redirect?
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>
> Thanks
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> Sean
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Lead time for Wi-Fi gear?

2021-05-20 Thread Jesse Thomas
Hi Everyone,

We ordered a few hundred Cisco 9105AXW APs about six weeks ago and were
pleasantly surprised when they arrived about three weeks later (expected
lead time was two months).

Other equipment (non-Wi-Fi) has been taking much longer.


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On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:19 AM Hales, David  wrote:

> We ordered some Extreme/Aerohive gear about 6 weeks ago and got half
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> everyone else is seeing?  I know some Meraki gear can be shipped within a
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 9800 Gotchas

2020-12-11 Thread Jesse Thomas
Hi Eric and Nick,

I do not believe the traditional templates work for APs on the 9800
platform (we make heavy use of them for our AireOS hardware). I did give it
a try and it returns a status of "Not Applicable", and the settings for the
LAN ports are not changed. That said, the behavior we are experiencing
could also be related to an SNMP bug between 17.3.2a and Prime. This is
currently preventing us from using Prime to change names on these APs as
well.

In Prime 3.8 there is a new section: Menu > Configuration > Cisco Catalyst
9800 Configuration where you can create and deploy tags & profiles
(matching what's on the WLC), but the trouble we've found is that there is
no way to *enable* the LAN ports in this manner—either via Prime or
directly on the WLC using tags/profiles. We have created an RLAN Profile
and RLAN Policy to configure the basic settings, security, VLAN mapping,
PoE, etc. and these all work as expected, but once this configuration is
applied, the ports remain in a disabled state, and we've have to manually
enable them on each AP. We have confirmed this behavior with TAC and our
regional Cisco SE and are in the process of filing an enhancement request.

@Eric - would you be willing to share more detail on or off the list
regarding "CSV uploads of MAC-to-AP name assignments"? If I am
understanding this correctly, it may be something useful in our deployment
workflow.

Thanks,


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On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 5:36 PM Ciesinski, Nick  wrote:

> Are you talking about enabling the LAN ports from Prime or on the WLC
> itself?  On the WLC itself the LAN ports are configured via the policy tag
> configuration in the RLAN-POLICY map section where you assign a RLAN to
> each port.  That policy tag then needs to be applied to the APs.
>
> For applying tags I’ve personally moved away from having Prime statically
> assign APs tags like I used to do with AP groups in AirOS and instead have
> written regex rules on the WLC to automatically apply the tag based on the
> AP name.
>
> Nick
>
> On Dec 10, 2020, at 11:43 AM, Jesse Thomas  wrote:
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> *EXTERNAL EMAIL*
> Hi Everyone,
>
> We are boldly moving forward with a deployment of two 9800-40s (HA pair)
> and about 400 of the new 9105AXW access points. We have encountered a
> couple of minor issues thus far and I am curious if anyone in the group has
> also experienced them and perhaps has some recommendations for workarounds.
>
> 1. Oddly, there does not appear to be a way to enable the LAN ports on the
> access points via a policy or tag within the RLAN configuration. We have
> confirmed this behavior with TAC and filed for an enhancement request. Our
> current plan is to export a list of all APs and then do a bulk
> configuration via the CLI.
>
> 2. We intend to manage this new setup via Prime Infrastructure and
> potentially move to DNAC once we retire our older equipment that is not
> supported on the new platform. However, there does not seem to be a
> straightforward way to apply existing tags/policies created on the WLC to
> APs within Prime, and documentation is sparse in this area.
>
> Thanks for any insights you can provide on these topics.
>
> Regards,
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Cisco WLC 9800 Gotchas

2020-12-10 Thread Jesse Thomas
Hi Everyone,

We are boldly moving forward with a deployment of two 9800-40s (HA pair)
and about 400 of the new 9105AXW access points. We have encountered a
couple of minor issues thus far and I am curious if anyone in the group has
also experienced them and perhaps has some recommendations for workarounds.

1. Oddly, there does not appear to be a way to enable the LAN ports on the
access points via a policy or tag within the RLAN configuration. We have
confirmed this behavior with TAC and filed for an enhancement request. Our
current plan is to export a list of all APs and then do a bulk
configuration via the CLI.

2. We intend to manage this new setup via Prime Infrastructure and
potentially move to DNAC once we retire our older equipment that is not
supported on the new platform. However, there does not seem to be a
straightforward way to apply existing tags/policies created on the WLC to
APs within Prime, and documentation is sparse in this area.

Thanks for any insights you can provide on these topics.

Regards,


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Weak Security

2020-12-03 Thread Jesse Thomas
+1 for us as well - we disabled WPA and TKIP many years ago and have not
had any issues with client connectivity.


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On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:38 AM Smith, Nayef  wrote:

> +1 to Chuck's comment.  No issues here.
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> We stopped supporting TKIP years ago.  No issues that I’m aware of.
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> Apple devices that are updating to IOS 14 are now reporting that wireless
> security is weak.   We are currently using a combination of WPA/TKIP and
> WPA2/AES for security, but are considering the move to WPA2/AES only.  I
> was looking to see what others have done and what challenges you faced in
> making these changes.
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller

2020-10-09 Thread Jesse Thomas
Same here - we're moving from WiSM2 to 9840.

Thanks,


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On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 10:44 AM Slone, Kelly 
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>
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> We are in the process of upgrading our wireless from a Cisco 8510 to a
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> know before transitioning your existing AP inventory that is compliant with
> the new hardware. I am building the configuration for the 9800 from scratch
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP Management Network Size

2020-06-19 Thread Jesse Thomas
Hi Everyone,

Thanks for all the responses thus far—this community is always extremely
helpful.

I should add that we have L2 connectivity in each location and that all APs
run in Local Mode (tunneled back to controller), so aside from DHCP at
boot, there would be very little broadcast traffic.

@Bruce - I like your idea of having them on the building VLANs. We do that
for some now and I had not considered that for all of them. However, we are
also looking at Cisco's DNA for management, and I think that would be
easier to manage if the APs were on a dedicated set of networks. We moved
our switches to this model (dedicated management network) starting last
year, and it has worked well for us.

To ease management, my preference would be for a pair of /22s, or even one
/21, but I worry a little about that many APs in one segment. Has anyone
gone "too big", and had issues as a result?

Thank you again,


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On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:46 PM Adam T. Ferrero  wrote:

>
>   We have ~6k APs and place them on AP mgmt. subnets of /22.  We tunnel
> all traffic back to controllers so the broadcast isn't significant (no user
> broadcast on the AP mgmt. vlan).  The weakest devices we have are VoIP
> phones where 200 broadcast packets per second can hurt them but broadcast
> pps above 50 is abnormal here.
>
>   Adam
>
> -Original Message-
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> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Curtis, Bruce
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:19 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP Management Network Size
>
> We take a more Zero Trust approach and don’t put APs on a separate Vlan.
>
> The APs are on the same Vlan as other devices in the building..
>
> No problems in more than 14 years.
>
> We do give them private IPv4 numbers but they get public IPv6 numbers.
>
> > On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Jesse Thomas  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > We are preparing to replace our existing Cisco WiSM2 controllers with
> 9800s. Part of this upgrade will include redesigning our AP management
> network(s)—currently, we have about 500 APs spread across 3 different
> /24's.
> >
> > As we move towards an in-room design in our residence halls and provide
> denser 5GHz coverage throughout campus in the coming years, we expect the
> number of APs to grow by quite a bit.
> >
> > I am interested in how others have sized your AP management networks? I
> have not found any concrete guidance from Cisco and various recommendations
> elsewhere range from /25 to /21. Larger ranges would of course be easier to
> manage, but at the same time we don't want to introduce issues related to
> broadcast traffic.
> >
> > Thanks for any input that you can provide.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
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AP Management Network Size

2020-06-17 Thread Jesse Thomas
Hi Everyone,

We are preparing to replace our existing Cisco WiSM2 controllers with
9800s. Part of this upgrade will include redesigning our AP management
network(s)—currently, we have about 500 APs spread across 3 different
/24's.

As we move towards an in-room design in our residence halls and provide
denser 5GHz coverage throughout campus in the coming years, we expect the
number of APs to grow by quite a bit.

I am interested in how others have sized your AP management networks? I
have not found any concrete guidance from Cisco and various recommendations
elsewhere range from /25 to /21. Larger ranges would of course be easier to
manage, but at the same time we don't want to introduce issues related to
broadcast traffic.

Thanks for any input that you can provide.

Regards,


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Network & Systems Administrator
Hamilton College
315-859-4211

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Account Lockouts after PW Change

2015-04-17 Thread Jesse Thomas

Hi Everyone

We recently rolled out a new password policy which includes an account 
lockout after a number of failed authentications. We are experiencing a 
fair amount of lockouts after users change their password, but fail to 
update their wireless devices with the new credentials. The devices have 
the old password cached and keep trying to connect to wireless, 
ultimately resulting in a locked account.


We use Cisco ACS 5.5 for RADIUS against MS AD 2008R2 (PEAP w/ 
MS-CHAPv2). Server 2003 SP1+ has a feature called Password history 
check (N-2) that isn't supposed to increment the badPwdCount if the 
password is the same as one of the last two entries that are in the 
password history.


(https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc780271%28v=ws.10%29.aspx?f=255MSPPError=-2147217396)

This works as-expected with authentications from Windows and Mac 
domain-joined desktops (logins, connecting to shared drives, etc.), but 
does NOT work with authentications coming from RADIUS.


Unfortunately there is precious little info available from MS regarding 
the feature (requirements and/or configuration) and cases opened with 
both MS and Cisco have not provided any additional information.


I'm wondering if anyone here has gotten this to work with RADIUS, Cisco 
ACS or otherwise, so we know if we should continue to pursue this or not?


Thanks in advance,


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Network  Systems Administrator
Hamilton College
315-859-4211

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