RE: Cisco LWAP Advice

2015-12-11 Thread Klaczko, Edwin 
Even though it’s a bit more work an RFP is a good idea.  Even if you are happy 
with your current vendor it helps with getting the best pricing.  On several 
occasions I’ve virtually eliminated the “Cisco premium” everyone expects.  Now 
ongoing SmartNet maintenance costs are another matter.


Eddie Klaczko

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I agree with the RFP idea.

When we last did an RFP and in-house demos & proof of concepts, we were 
surprised at what was offered by Aruba Networks. They even worked with us to 
support multicast video on wireless.

​

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Infrastructure & Media Solutions

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From: Lee H Badman [mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu]
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Cisco LWAP Advice

If the old controller is all that is tying you to Cisco,  it sounds like RFP 
time- let the market compete for your business.

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Eddie,



Thanks for the advice! I don't think that Cisco will "give" us a controller - 
but nice try...



Best,

Andrew Conley

Director of Information Technology

San Diego Unified High School District

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W: 760.363.5008 x 1009


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I concur with Thomas.  Per this doc  
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-3750-series-switches/end_of_life_notice_c51-634665.html



End-of-life was 12/13/2010

End-of-SW maintenance was 6/12/2014

End-of-Service Contract Renewal Date was 9/8/2015



With the size of your district maybe you have a spare 5500 or newer lying 
around if you don’t want to invest the money right now.  Pick which APs you 
want to use first since this will be a good bulk of your costs, then have Cisco 
“give” you the controller for them.  ;)



Eddie Klaczko



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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco LWAP Advice



To future proof your deployment it may be best to upgrade your WLC to a 5520. I 
suggest deploying the x700 series LWAP to support 802.11ac as we have seen a 
large increase in clients supporting it. Here is a comparison chart for the 
various ac enabled LWAPs.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/wireless/buyers-guide.html#~indoorac



Cisco has nice bundling options so we have opted to use the 3702 after taking 
advantage of the bundling discounts. We use the 2702 in smaller office bundles 
as well, but large buildings with higher density we choose the latter.



Hope this helps!



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So the only AP still sold new that is supported on a 4404 is the 3502i.



Not much in the way for options on that old platform, but that is what you can 
still buy.  Might be time to look at upgrading that old girl.

Thanks

Jake Snyder

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208-286-3015



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On Dec 9, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Conley 
<andrew.con...@sduhsd.org<mailto:andrew.con...@sduhsd.org>> wrote:

Hi all,



I'm new to the EduCause community (even though I'm a HS District IT Director 
and Educause is for Higher-Ed..). We're a 135,000 student and 6,000 staff 
district (very large).

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco LWAP Advice

2015-12-10 Thread Klaczko, Edwin 
I concur with Thomas.  Per this doc  
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-3750-series-switches/end_of_life_notice_c51-634665.html

End-of-life was 12/13/2010
End-of-SW maintenance was 6/12/2014
End-of-Service Contract Renewal Date was 9/8/2015

With the size of your district maybe you have a spare 5500 or newer lying 
around if you don’t want to invest the money right now.  Pick which APs you 
want to use first since this will be a good bulk of your costs, then have Cisco 
“give” you the controller for them.  ;)

Eddie Klaczko

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of McClintic, Thomas
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 8:27 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco LWAP Advice

To future proof your deployment it may be best to upgrade your WLC to a 5520. I 
suggest deploying the x700 series LWAP to support 802.11ac as we have seen a 
large increase in clients supporting it. Here is a comparison chart for the 
various ac enabled LWAPs.
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/wireless/buyers-guide.html#~indoorac

Cisco has nice bundling options so we have opted to use the 3702 after taking 
advantage of the bundling discounts. We use the 2702 in smaller office bundles 
as well, but large buildings with higher density we choose the latter.

Hope this helps!

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 9:07 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco LWAP Advice

So the only AP still sold new that is supported on a 4404 is the 3502i.

Not much in the way for options on that old platform, but that is what you can 
still buy.  Might be time to look at upgrading that old girl.
Thanks
Jake Snyder
jsny...@compunet.biz
208-286-3015

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 9, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Conley 
> wrote:

Hi all,



I'm new to the EduCause community (even though I'm a HS District IT Director 
and Educause is for Higher-Ed..). We're a 135,000 student and 6,000 staff 
district (very large). I am doing a AP deploy for a new high school building (I 
have a Cisco WLC4402-100-K9 installed in the building already) with 
approximately 500 clients connected and wanted to know what Cisco LWAPs 
everyone was using or would recommend for this deploy.



Thanks in advance for your assistance!



Andrew Conley

Director of Information Technology

San Diego Unified High School District

E: andrew.con...@sduhsd.org

W: 760.363.5008 x 1009
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