RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] upgrade from 802.11n to 802.11ac

[Ying Zhang]

Thanks for everyone who replied. A lot of great input and things to think 
about. I think we now have a rough idea on the increases for different 
scenarios and type of areas.

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] upgrade from 802.11n to 802.11ac

We are upgrading from 802.11n to 802.11ac and have increased our AP count by 
25%-33% to move from coverage to density. We are moving to Aruba, ripping out 
our old gear and we have seen big improvements in bandwidth in our expanded and 
upgraded buildings. 1:1 replacements are sufficient for spaces where density is 
either not an issue or the AP layout was already done for density.

--
Jason Trinklein
Wireless Engineering Manager
College of Charleston
81 St. Philip Street | Office 311D | Charleston, SC 29403
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] upgrade from 802.11n to 802.11ac

Hi,

We are looking at a campus wide wireless upgrade from 802.11n to 802.11ac. Just 
wondering for anyone out there who has done this before, do you have an 
approximate number (in percentage) with regards to # of additional APs in a 
mainly coverage-based design.

Thanks in advance.

Ying

University of New Brunswick
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RE: upgrade from 802.11n to 802.11ac

[Ying Zhang]

Thanks Robert. We are going to do a proper site survey and RF design for sure. 
Right now just looking for an approximate number for budgeting purpose.

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Harris
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 1:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] upgrade from 802.11n to 802.11ac

You're really going to want to have a survey done and a proper design built.

I recommend Aruba networks, their products have worked very well for us and 
their support is top shelf.

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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] upgrade from 802.11n to 802.11ac

Hi,

We are looking at a campus wide wireless upgrade from 802.11n to 802.11ac. Just 
wondering for anyone out there who has done this before, do you have an 
approximate number (in percentage) with regards to # of additional APs in a 
mainly coverage-based design.

Thanks in advance.

Ying

University of New Brunswick
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upgrade from 802.11n to 802.11ac

[Ying Zhang]

Hi,

We are looking at a campus wide wireless upgrade from 802.11n to 802.11ac. Just 
wondering for anyone out there who has done this before, do you have an 
approximate number (in percentage) with regards to # of additional APs in a 
mainly coverage-based design.

Thanks in advance.

Ying

University of New Brunswick

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RE: 802.1x certificate authentication

[Ying Zhang]

This is very good information. We are currently in the process of RFP for a NAC 
solution. Anything we should watch out for with regards to the onboarding 
platform? Any information you could share would be very much appreciated. 

Thanks. 

Ying 
Enterprise Network Architect 
Information Technology Services 
University of New Brunswick
Fredericton, NB, E3B 5A3
Phone: (506) 447-3014
Cell: (506) 449-0661

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Turner, Ryan H
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication

There is more to it than just the onboarding platform.  Regardless of what 
onboarding platform you use, the actual onboarding SSID and associated captive 
portal is extremely important at reducing helpdesk calls.  We've gone through 
several iterations over a few years and think we finally got it right. 

Ryan

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Muraca, Peppino P.
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 12:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication

This is great information, I have been worried that this will create a ton of 
support calls. The key seems to make sure the onboarding system is a good one, 
we are also a cloudpath shop, but are hoping to get to clearpass.

-Pino

Peppino Muraca
Sr. Network Administrator
Stonehill College
508-565-1193
pmur...@stonehill.edu
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Curtis K. Larsen
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication

The Android experience is still good in my opinion, just weaker than iOS when 
you incorporate the Play Store.  (I think ISE links to the Play Store too).  
Luckily, Cloudpath has the option of directly downloading the certs instead of 
requiring the app from the Play Store.  Of course, a profile based option (What 
Google does with ChromeOS) negates the need for any link to the Play Store.

-Curtis


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 on behalf of Turner, Ryan H 

Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication

Android is definitely 'the' problem.  In our stats, you can see that they are 
only 10% of the clients we onboard, but are closer to 90% of the trouble 
tickets.  We were a Cloudpath customer and made the switch to SecureW2 (the 
android experience was a big reason).

Ryan

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Curtis K. Larsen
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication

We've been offering EAP-TLS for about 2 years.  It's been the only supported 
option for BYOD for just over a year.  Personally, I think the user experience 
is pretty good across all devices  (Android is weaker but still not bad).  I've 
heard rumblings that Android might be changing to a profile method more similar 
to ChromeOS ...so that would probably improve things.  Our stats are eerily 
similar to Ryan's but we use the Cloudpath Enrollment System, and we have not 
disabled PEAP yet.

Thanks,

--
Curtis K. Larsen
Senior Network Engineer
University of Utah IT/CIS



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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 7:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication

We are a very experienced shop with TLS.  We've been using certificates for 4 
years.  We now use the SecureW2 onboarding platform to perform the operation, 
and we have been VERY happy with the results.  Attached below is our statistics 
for onboarding from the Fall of 2015 to today.  I would be happy to help you 
out.  My contact information is below.  In short, we've onboarded over 160,000 
devices in the last two years (over 300k in 4).

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Ryan Turner
Manager of Network Operations
ITS Communication Technologies
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

r...@unc.edu
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile



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