Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Frans Panken]

And wouldn’t it be great if companies would actually certify their products 
with such an organization..??? (e.g., the last iphone certified by wi-fi 
alliance was the iphone 4S, in 2011)

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Date: Thursday, 10 October 2019 at 19:11
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

Wouldn’t it be awesome if there was a group… some kind of ORGANIZATION maybe, 
like an ALLIANCE that did interoperability testing to keep stuff like this at 
bay? Maybe a group made up wireless product manufacturers…

Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNE#200)
Information Technology Services
(NDD Group)
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   e lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu> w its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

Not only does the Intel wireless card problem on Windows computers prevent them 
from attaching, our experience is that none of the SSIDs are even visible to 
Windows computers when ax is turned on, even though ac and n are also turned 
on.  So from their point of view, the WAPs are broken, and we hear about it 
when the parents of students call people on the executive team wondering why IT 
is so incompetent they can't provide a wireless network similar to the one they 
rolled out in their home in a matter of minutes.  Now it's public relations and 
a political problem.

The only solution that we've found apart from going to each computer and hand 
installing the new drivers is turning off 802.11ax on our new, expensive WAPs, 
and waiting for , what? 2 years? , until either Microsoft makes these wireless 
upgrades mandatory security patches (unlikely), or the population of old 
Windows computers diminishes to only a handful.

John Rodkey
Director of Servers and Networks
Westmont College

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:48 PM Sweetser, Frank E 
mailto:f...@wpi.edu>> wrote:
In theory, yes - I doubt that anyone is going to deploy 11ax with earlier 
standards disabled (except for base 11b data rates, anyway).  The problem is 
there's a bug in commonly deployed Intel driver versions which prevents the 
client from attaching to the network if 11ax rates are enabled at all:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/54799/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
"For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong." - 
HL Mencken

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs


I don’t believe ClearPass Device Insight shows driver details – I just skimmed 
through endpoint details page and attributes and don’t see it.

At the risk of asking a dumb question, is there a reason not to simply deploy 
the 500-series with backwards compatibility enabled? That would allow you to 
offer a seamless experience for clients in a mixed-PHY-standard environment and 
support current clients on n/ac and even a/b/g etc.



Cheers!

-jj

___

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VP of Engineering & Security

Carolina Advanced Digital, Inc.

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Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs



We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel
Driver issues
(https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2F

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Lee H Badman]

Wouldn’t it be awesome if there was a group… some kind of ORGANIZATION maybe, 
like an ALLIANCE that did interoperability testing to keep stuff like this at 
bay? Maybe a group made up wireless product manufacturers…

Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNE#200)
Information Technology Services
(NDD Group)
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   e lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu> w its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of John Rodkey
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:24 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

Not only does the Intel wireless card problem on Windows computers prevent them 
from attaching, our experience is that none of the SSIDs are even visible to 
Windows computers when ax is turned on, even though ac and n are also turned 
on.  So from their point of view, the WAPs are broken, and we hear about it 
when the parents of students call people on the executive team wondering why IT 
is so incompetent they can't provide a wireless network similar to the one they 
rolled out in their home in a matter of minutes.  Now it's public relations and 
a political problem.

The only solution that we've found apart from going to each computer and hand 
installing the new drivers is turning off 802.11ax on our new, expensive WAPs, 
and waiting for , what? 2 years? , until either Microsoft makes these wireless 
upgrades mandatory security patches (unlikely), or the population of old 
Windows computers diminishes to only a handful.

John Rodkey
Director of Servers and Networks
Westmont College

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:48 PM Sweetser, Frank E 
mailto:f...@wpi.edu>> wrote:
In theory, yes - I doubt that anyone is going to deploy 11ax with earlier 
standards disabled (except for base 11b data rates, anyway).  The problem is 
there's a bug in commonly deployed Intel driver versions which prevents the 
client from attaching to the network if 11ax rates are enabled at all:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/54799/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
"For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong." - 
HL Mencken

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs


I don’t believe ClearPass Device Insight shows driver details – I just skimmed 
through endpoint details page and attributes and don’t see it.

At the risk of asking a dumb question, is there a reason not to simply deploy 
the 500-series with backwards compatibility enabled? That would allow you to 
offer a seamless experience for clients in a mixed-PHY-standard environment and 
support current clients on n/ac and even a/b/g etc.



Cheers!

-jj

___

Jennifer Minella, CISSP, HP MASE

VP of Engineering & Security

Carolina Advanced Digital, Inc.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 7:57 AM
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<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs



We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel
Driver issues
(https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.htmldata=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7Cbc693525d46e464edc2308d74cafd52b%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062190393581783sdata=PPsyPwaUPetmfINaNm1FZVxnaI8DN9ydJ%2BA704MhLwM%3Dreserved=0<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.html=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7C5d86227a676a4b1fd9a708d74d08c938%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C63706257253431

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[John Rodkey]

Not only does the Intel wireless card problem on Windows computers prevent
them from attaching, our experience is that none of the SSIDs are even
visible to Windows computers when ax is turned on, even though ac and n are
also turned on.  So from their point of view, the WAPs are broken, and we
hear about it when the parents of students call people on the executive
team wondering why IT is so incompetent they can't provide a wireless
network similar to the one they rolled out in their home in a matter of
minutes.  Now it's public relations and a political problem.

The only solution that we've found apart from going to each computer and
hand installing the new drivers is turning off 802.11ax on our new,
expensive WAPs, and waiting for , what? 2 years? , until either Microsoft
makes these wireless upgrades mandatory security patches (unlikely), or the
population of old Windows computers diminishes to only a handful.

John Rodkey
Director of Servers and Networks
Westmont College

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:48 PM Sweetser, Frank E  wrote:

> In theory, yes - I doubt that anyone is going to deploy 11ax with earlier
> standards disabled (except for base 11b data rates, anyway).  The problem
> is there's a bug in commonly deployed Intel driver versions which prevents
> the client from attaching to the network if 11ax rates are enabled at all:
>
>
> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/54799/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html
>
> Frank Sweetser
> Director of Network Operations
> Worcester Polytechnic Institute
> "For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and
> wrong." - HL Mencken
> --
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Jennifer Minella <
> j...@cadinc.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:23 PM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs
>
>
> I don’t believe ClearPass Device Insight shows driver details – I just
> skimmed through endpoint details page and attributes and don’t see it.
>
> At the risk of asking a dumb question, is there a reason not to simply
> deploy the 500-series with backwards compatibility enabled? That would
> allow you to offer a seamless experience for clients in a
> mixed-PHY-standard environment and support current clients on n/ac and even
> a/b/g etc.
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> -jj
>
> ___
>
> *Jennifer Minella*, CISSP, HP MASE
>
> VP of Engineering & Security
>
> Carolina Advanced Digital, Inc.
>
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> 
> **
> 
> *Subject:* [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs
>
>
>
> We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel
> Driver issues
> (
> *https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.htmldata=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7Cbc693525d46e464edc2308d74cafd52b%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062190393581783sdata=PPsyPwaUPetmfINaNm1FZVxnaI8DN9ydJ%2BA704MhLwM%3Dreserved=0*
> <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.html=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7C5d86227a676a4b1fd9a708d74d08c938%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062572534312429=TX%2BBCWo3phrnCl4CnmFveYgfjHfuqwF%2FXzZBbwIqhts%3D=0>
> )
>
> We've been notifying clients and were updating drivers until instructed
> to just turn off Wi-Fi 6.
> This begs the question of trying to identify the problematic machines
> and seek them out, or
> just announce a future date to turn on Wi-Fi 6 and go back to dealing
> with updating drivers as
> they come up.  We'll have a mix (currently ~15% Wi-Fi 6) of AP models
> for a while, so the issues
> won't all show right away.
>
> Anyone looked into identifying the machines needing updated through
> fingerprinting
> (Ar

Re: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Sweetser, Frank E]

In theory, yes - I doubt that anyone is going to deploy 11ax with earlier 
standards disabled (except for base 11b data rates, anyway).  The problem is 
there's a bug in commonly deployed Intel driver versions which prevents the 
client from attaching to the network if 11ax rates are enabled at all:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/54799/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
"For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong." - 
HL Mencken

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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs


I don’t believe ClearPass Device Insight shows driver details – I just skimmed 
through endpoint details page and attributes and don’t see it.

At the risk of asking a dumb question, is there a reason not to simply deploy 
the 500-series with backwards compatibility enabled? That would allow you to 
offer a seamless experience for clients in a mixed-PHY-standard environment and 
support current clients on n/ac and even a/b/g etc.



Cheers!

-jj

___

Jennifer Minella, CISSP, HP MASE

VP of Engineering & Security

Carolina Advanced Digital, Inc.

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Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs



We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel
Driver issues
(https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.htmldata=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7Cbc693525d46e464edc2308d74cafd52b%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062190393581783sdata=PPsyPwaUPetmfINaNm1FZVxnaI8DN9ydJ%2BA704MhLwM%3Dreserved=0<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.html=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7C5d86227a676a4b1fd9a708d74d08c938%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062572534312429=TX%2BBCWo3phrnCl4CnmFveYgfjHfuqwF%2FXzZBbwIqhts%3D=0>)

We've been notifying clients and were updating drivers until instructed
to just turn off Wi-Fi 6.
This begs the question of trying to identify the problematic machines
and seek them out, or
just announce a future date to turn on Wi-Fi 6 and go back to dealing
with updating drivers as
they come up.  We'll have a mix (currently ~15% Wi-Fi 6) of AP models
for a while, so the issues
won't all show right away.

Anyone looked into identifying the machines needing updated through
fingerprinting
(Aruba Insight or Airwave or Clearpass ) ?


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WIRELESS-LAN Digest - 8 Oct 2019 to 9 Oct 2019 (#2019-167)
Table of contents:

  *   WLC & ISE combo issues (5)
  *   Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs
  *   [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs (3)
  *   Wi-Fi Design Consulting (3)

  1.  WLC & ISE combo issues
 *   Re: WLC & ISE combo issues (10/09)
From: Mathieu Sturm mailto:mathieu.st...@hogent.be>>
 *   Re: WLC & ISE combo issues (10/09)
From: "Kenny, Eric" mailto:eric_ke...@harvard.edu>>
 *   Re: WL

Re: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Jennifer Minella]

I don't believe ClearPass Device Insight shows driver details - I just skimmed 
through endpoint details page and attributes and don't see it.
At the risk of asking a dumb question, is there a reason not to simply deploy 
the 500-series with backwards compatibility enabled? That would allow you to 
offer a seamless experience for clients in a mixed-PHY-standard environment and 
support current clients on n/ac and even a/b/g etc.

Cheers!
-jj
___
Jennifer Minella, CISSP, HP MASE
VP of Engineering & Security
Carolina Advanced Digital, Inc.
www.cadinc.com<http://www.cadinc.com/>
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Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel
Driver issues
(https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.htmldata=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7Cbc693525d46e464edc2308d74cafd52b%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062190393581783sdata=PPsyPwaUPetmfINaNm1FZVxnaI8DN9ydJ%2BA704MhLwM%3Dreserved=0)

We've been notifying clients and were updating drivers until instructed
to just turn off Wi-Fi 6.
This begs the question of trying to identify the problematic machines
and seek them out, or
just announce a future date to turn on Wi-Fi 6 and go back to dealing
with updating drivers as
they come up.  We'll have a mix (currently ~15% Wi-Fi 6) of AP models
for a while, so the issues
won't all show right away.

Anyone looked into identifying the machines needing updated through
fingerprinting
(Aruba Insight or Airwave or Clearpass ) ?

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  *   WLC & ISE combo issues (5)
  *   Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs
  *   [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs (3)
  *   Wi-Fi Design Consulting (3)

  1.  WLC & ISE combo issues
 *   Re: WLC & ISE combo issues (10/09)
From: Mathieu Sturm mailto:mathieu.st...@hogent.be>>
 *   Re: WLC & ISE combo issues (10/09)
From: "Kenny, Eric" mailto:eric_ke...@harvard.edu>>
 *   Re: WLC & ISE combo issues (10/09)
From: Dennis Xu mailto:d...@uoguelph.ca>>
 *   Re: WLC & ISE combo issues (10/09)
From: Kitri Waterman mailto:wate...@wwu.edu>>
 *   Re: WLC & ISE combo issues (10/09)
From: "Heavrin, Lynn" mailto:lheav...@wustl.edu>>
  2.  Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs
 *   Re: Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs (10/09)
From: Michael Davis mailto:da...@udel.edu>>
  3.  [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs
 *   Re: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 
APs (10/09)
From: "Sweetser, Frank E" mailto:f...@wpi.edu>>
     *   Re: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 
APs (10/09)
From: Michael Davis mailto:da...@udel.edu>>
 *   Re: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 
APs (10/09)
From: "Sweetser, Frank E" mailto:f...@wpi.edu>>
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 *   Wi-Fi Design Consulting (10/09)
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 *   Re: Wi-Fi Design Consulting (10/09)
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Sweetser, Frank E]

We had to ask SecureW2 to provide the report.  Who knows - if enough of us ask, 
maybe they'll make it a standard one 

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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We do onboard with SecureW2, but only in the past 10 months and it's 
encouraged, not required.

Did you have to request a custom report from SW2 support for this?  I don't see 
that info available
in the standard report templates and they also a 2 month window.


On 10/9/19 8:36 AM, Sweetser, Frank E wrote:
Are you doing any kind of onboarding?  We were able to generate a report of 
driver versions for our client base from SecureW2, for example.

Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel
Driver issues
(https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.htmldata=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7Cbc693525d46e464edc2308d74cafd52b%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062190393581783sdata=PPsyPwaUPetmfINaNm1FZVxnaI8DN9ydJ%2BA704MhLwM%3Dreserved=0<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F54799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.html=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7C28b36636ddd544a60d8408d74cb6aad6%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062219744653108=PWJ%2F66O8X0S%2B0yg%2Fq%2Bm2FuBYusO%2Bxjip9t9WrsLbSbA%3D=0>)

We've been notifying clients and were updating drivers until instructed
to just turn off Wi-Fi 6.
This begs the question of trying to identify the problematic machines
and seek them out, or
just announce a future date to turn on Wi-Fi 6 and go back to dealing
with updating drivers as
they come up.  We'll have a mix (currently ~15% Wi-Fi 6) of AP models
for a while, so the issues
won't all show right away.

Anyone looked into identifying the machines needing updated through
fingerprinting
(Aruba Insight or Airwave or Clearpass ) ?



On 9/5/19 3:08 PM, Turner, Ryan H wrote:
> We've done a test deployment of Aruba 515s.  There seem to be some driver 
> compatibility issues.  We have 2 IT buildings.  I had an induvial able to 
> connect and see SSIDs just fine in our building with 315s.  When she came to 
> the building with 515s, she saw nothing.  I updated her drivers, and then 
> everything worked.  So just be aware you might see more of that.  We were 
> running 8.503 code (I think).
>
>
> Ryan Turner
> Head of Networking
> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> +1 919 445 0113 Office
> +1 919 274 7926 Mobile
> r...@unc.edu<mailto:r...@unc.edu>
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>
>
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>
> Anyone have any Wi-Fi 6 APs deployed yet, and if so any thoughts either good 
> or bad. I'm looking at swapping out the APs in our dining hall first, since 
> they seem to get the most use.
>


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Michael Davis]

We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel 
Driver issues

(https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/54799/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html)

We've been notifying clients and were updating drivers until instructed 
to just turn off Wi-Fi 6.
This begs the question of trying to identify the problematic machines 
and seek them out, or
just announce a future date to turn on Wi-Fi 6 and go back to dealing 
with updating drivers as
they come up.  We'll have a mix (currently ~15% Wi-Fi 6) of AP models 
for a while, so the issues

won't all show right away.

Anyone looked into identifying the machines needing updated through 
fingerprinting

(Aruba Insight or Airwave or Clearpass ) ?



On 9/5/19 3:08 PM, Turner, Ryan H wrote:

We've done a test deployment of Aruba 515s.  There seem to be some driver 
compatibility issues.  We have 2 IT buildings.  I had an induvial able to 
connect and see SSIDs just fine in our building with 315s.  When she came to 
the building with 515s, she saw nothing.  I updated her drivers, and then 
everything worked.  So just be aware you might see more of that.  We were 
running 8.503 code (I think).


Ryan Turner
Head of Networking
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile
r...@unc.edu



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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

Anyone have any Wi-Fi 6 APs deployed yet, and if so any thoughts either good or 
bad. I'm looking at swapping out the APs in our dining hall first, since they 
seem to get the most use.

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Moore, Clark]

In high density areas we are using multi-gig.

Clark Moore
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Thanks for the responses.

Is anyone running multi-gig out to their APs or just a 1Gbps link?


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We have over 100   515s and 535s deployed.  I have disabled the HE (ax) radio 
for now due to  legacy client issues. (intel)   I’ve seen this with other ax ap 
vendors so not just aruba thing.  Yes updating drivers has fixed but it’s 
really hard to instruct end user to go download drivers when the device doesn’t 
see any ssid even open guest one.   We weren’t seeing many ax clients so 
disabling this phy isn’t really huge issue for us today.

We have been very pleased with the performance of the system from client 
perspective.  But going from 802.11n 2ss aps to 802.11ac 4ss with 5ghz in room 
design probably has more to do than model of the ap.  Now the 8.x gui in aruba 
is another story.   Learning the ways of the mm cli will get you much farther 
than the buggy gui that is in the 8.5 train.  I’m on the latest 8.5.3 code as 
well.


Thanks
Trent



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On Sep 5, 2019, at 14:08, Turner, Ryan H 
mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>> wrote:

We've done a test deployment of Aruba 515s.  There seem to be some driver 
compatibility issues.  We have 2 IT buildings.  I had an induvial able to 
connect and see SSIDs just fine in our building with 315s.  When she came to 
the building with 515s, she saw nothing.  I updated her drivers, and then 
everything worked.  So just be aware you might see more of that.  We were 
running 8.503 code (I think).

Having users update their device drivers is on our standard troubleshooting 
script for when people call in trouble reports.  It’s been solving problems for 
years.  :)

--
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Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
Northwestern Information Technology

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Kenny, Eric]

Hi Chris,

We’ve got a couple 530 series APs deployed for testing.  On a smart rate port, 
they negotiate to 5 Gb/s.  We have a new area of campus going live soon that 
will have around 800 of the 535/534 APs.  If you’re looking to deploy them, 
keep an eye on your PoE budget as these won’t operate at full capacity unless 
using 802.3bt or connecting to 2 x 802.3at PoE ports.

Thanks,
--- 
Eric Kenny
Network Architect
Harvard University ITS
---

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 2:44 PM, Chris Brizzell 
> <0113a07d9d59-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> wrote:
> 
> Anyone have any Wi-Fi 6 APs deployed yet, and if so any thoughts either good 
> or bad. I'm looking at swapping out the APs in our dining hall first, since 
> they seem to get the most use.
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[John Rodkey]

This was true of our Aerohive deployment as well.  The Windows drivers were
not compatible with 802.11ax, and SSIDs were invisible to them, and not
able to be connected to even if specified.
We were forced to revert our APs to 802.11ac mode because of the impact it
had.  The trouble is that even though the patches are available, they
aren't pushed out because they aren't security or otherwise urgent.
Bottom line is that the problem is with the user device, but naturally IT
is blamed for the failure nonetheless.  Welcome to IT!

John

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 12:08 PM Turner, Ryan H 
wrote:

> We've done a test deployment of Aruba 515s.  There seem to be some driver
> compatibility issues.  We have 2 IT buildings.  I had an induvial able to
> connect and see SSIDs just fine in our building with 315s.  When she came
> to the building with 515s, she saw nothing.  I updated her drivers, and
> then everything worked.  So just be aware you might see more of that.  We
> were running 8.503 code (I think).
>
>
> Ryan Turner
> Head of Networking
> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> +1 919 445 0113 Office
> +1 919 274 7926 Mobile
> r...@unc.edu
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Chris Brizzell
> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 2:45 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs
>
> Anyone have any Wi-Fi 6 APs deployed yet, and if so any thoughts either
> good or bad. I'm looking at swapping out the APs in our dining hall first,
> since they seem to get the most use.
>
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Oakes, Carl W]

We had the 515’s at 2.5 Gig initially, but ran into a PoE issue on that style 
port, so right now they are back to a Gig until that is resolved.

~Carl O.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

Thanks for the responses.

Is anyone running multi-gig out to their APs or just a 1Gbps link?


Chris Brizzell
Assistant Director of Network and Technical Services and Network Administrator
Skidmore College
cbriz...@skidmore.edu<mailto:cbriz...@skidmore.edu>
518-580-5994



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Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:52 PM
To: 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

We have over 100   515s and 535s deployed.  I have disabled the HE (ax) radio 
for now due to  legacy client issues. (intel)   I’ve seen this with other ax ap 
vendors so not just aruba thing.  Yes updating drivers has fixed but it’s 
really hard to instruct end user to go download drivers when the device doesn’t 
see any ssid even open guest one.   We weren’t seeing many ax clients so 
disabling this phy isn’t really huge issue for us today.

We have been very pleased with the performance of the system from client 
perspective.  But going from 802.11n 2ss aps to 802.11ac 4ss with 5ghz in room 
design probably has more to do than model of the ap.  Now the 8.x gui in aruba 
is another story.   Learning the ways of the mm cli will get you much farther 
than the buggy gui that is in the 8.5 train.  I’m on the latest 8.5.3 code as 
well.


Thanks
Trent



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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

On Sep 5, 2019, at 14:08, Turner, Ryan H 
mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>> wrote:

We've done a test deployment of Aruba 515s.  There seem to be some driver 
compatibility issues.  We have 2 IT buildings.  I had an induvial able to 
connect and see SSIDs just fine in our building with 315s.  When she came to 
the building with 515s, she saw nothing.  I updated her drivers, and then 
everything worked.  So just be aware you might see more of that.  We were 
running 8.503 code (I think).

Having users update their device drivers is on our standard troubleshooting 
script for when people call in trouble reports.  It’s been solving problems for 
years.  :)

--
Julian Y. Koh
Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
Northwestern Information Technology

2020 Ridge Avenue #331
Evanston, IL 60208
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Trevor Jennings]

We just did a migration to the Aruba 535’s across campus (700+ APs) and have 
had some window intel wifi driver issues, but so far no issues with Apple 
devices. I think we have 1 or 2 11ax clients :)  

 - Trevor


Trevor Jennings
Network Engineer
Bowdoin College
Ph: 207-725-3785
Cell: 207-208-0834
tjenn...@bowdoin.edu


> On Sep 5, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Turner, Ryan H  wrote:
> 
> We've done a test deployment of Aruba 515s.  There seem to be some driver 
> compatibility issues.  We have 2 IT buildings.  I had an induvial able to 
> connect and see SSIDs just fine in our building with 315s.  When she came to 
> the building with 515s, she saw nothing.  I updated her drivers, and then 
> everything worked.  So just be aware you might see more of that.  We were 
> running 8.503 code (I think).
> 
> 
> Ryan Turner
> Head of Networking
> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> +1 919 445 0113 Office
> +1 919 274 7926 Mobile
> r...@unc.edu
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
>  On Behalf Of Chris Brizzell
> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 2:45 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs
> 
> Anyone have any Wi-Fi 6 APs deployed yet, and if so any thoughts either good 
> or bad. I'm looking at swapping out the APs in our dining hall first, since 
> they seem to get the most use.
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Christopher Brizzell]

Thanks for the responses.

Is anyone running multi-gig out to their APs or just a 1Gbps link?


Chris Brizzell
Assistant Director of Network and Technical Services and Network Administrator
Skidmore College
cbriz...@skidmore.edu<mailto:cbriz...@skidmore.edu>
518-580-5994



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Hurt,Trenton W.
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:52 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

We have over 100   515s and 535s deployed.  I have disabled the HE (ax) radio 
for now due to  legacy client issues. (intel)   I’ve seen this with other ax ap 
vendors so not just aruba thing.  Yes updating drivers has fixed but it’s 
really hard to instruct end user to go download drivers when the device doesn’t 
see any ssid even open guest one.   We weren’t seeing many ax clients so 
disabling this phy isn’t really huge issue for us today.

We have been very pleased with the performance of the system from client 
perspective.  But going from 802.11n 2ss aps to 802.11ac 4ss with 5ghz in room 
design probably has more to do than model of the ap.  Now the 8.x gui in aruba 
is another story.   Learning the ways of the mm cli will get you much farther 
than the buggy gui that is in the 8.5 train.  I’m on the latest 8.5.3 code as 
well.


Thanks
Trent



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Julian Y Koh
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:32 PM
To: 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

On Sep 5, 2019, at 14:08, Turner, Ryan H 
mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>> wrote:

We've done a test deployment of Aruba 515s.  There seem to be some driver 
compatibility issues.  We have 2 IT buildings.  I had an induvial able to 
connect and see SSIDs just fine in our building with 315s.  When she came to 
the building with 515s, she saw nothing.  I updated her drivers, and then 
everything worked.  So just be aware you might see more of that.  We were 
running 8.503 code (I think).

Having users update their device drivers is on our standard troubleshooting 
script for when people call in trouble reports.  It’s been solving problems for 
years.  :)

--
Julian Y. Koh
Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
Northwestern Information Technology

2020 Ridge Avenue #331
Evanston, IL 60208
+1-847-467-5780
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Hurt,Trenton W.]

We have over 100   515s and 535s deployed.  I have disabled the HE (ax) radio 
for now due to  legacy client issues. (intel)   I’ve seen this with other ax ap 
vendors so not just aruba thing.  Yes updating drivers has fixed but it’s 
really hard to instruct end user to go download drivers when the device doesn’t 
see any ssid even open guest one.   We weren’t seeing many ax clients so 
disabling this phy isn’t really huge issue for us today.

We have been very pleased with the performance of the system from client 
perspective.  But going from 802.11n 2ss aps to 802.11ac 4ss with 5ghz in room 
design probably has more to do than model of the ap.  Now the 8.x gui in aruba 
is another story.   Learning the ways of the mm cli will get you much farther 
than the buggy gui that is in the 8.5 train.  I’m on the latest 8.5.3 code as 
well.


Thanks
Trent



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Julian Y Koh
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:32 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

On Sep 5, 2019, at 14:08, Turner, Ryan H 
mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>> wrote:

We've done a test deployment of Aruba 515s.  There seem to be some driver 
compatibility issues.  We have 2 IT buildings.  I had an induvial able to 
connect and see SSIDs just fine in our building with 315s.  When she came to 
the building with 515s, she saw nothing.  I updated her drivers, and then 
everything worked.  So just be aware you might see more of that.  We were 
running 8.503 code (I think).

Having users update their device drivers is on our standard troubleshooting 
script for when people call in trouble reports.  It’s been solving problems for 
years.  :)

--
Julian Y. Koh
Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
Northwestern Information Technology

2020 Ridge Avenue #331
Evanston, IL 60208
+1-847-467-5780
Northwestern IT Web Site: 
<http://www.it.northwestern.edu/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.it.northwestern.edu_=DwMGaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=HbrAqwEeR6FX4ER8kG6Niwbv2NqszUNLqREBeY7TqmQ=nNqLcFoQnyRPmlElPpvQbbt0awdwkyR_zHyzqtMdS00=eo3spSl1gAokXhVbyIDNU5nFpyXjArvueYlw6c3MmLY=>>
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Oakes, Carl W]

We’ve got a new  5 Story Science building fully deployed with 515’s, so far so 
good.  We had the same driver issue, Intel AC-7620 was the card in question.  
Semester is two weeks in and no complaints.Actual benefits, eh, I think 
I’ve seen two clients connect as WiFi6 (HE). J   Hope to see more as clients 
become available. I like the new mounting system for the AP’s.We have 
one small building / isolated that we plan to drop a 555 in to see how it 
behaves.

The good news is that they work, so by deploying now you have a little more 
future proofing, ie, not buying older model AP’s.

We did have a PoE problem with the AP’s and switches (Alcatel-Lucent), still 
under review, but we were able to mitigate it for now.

We also moved to Aruba v8 (8.5.0.2) this summer, and let AirMatch choose 80 Mhz 
channels if it wanted too, which it did for a lot of the AP’s, that too has 
gone well.  Keeping an eye on that one though.

Carl Oakes
Senior Network Architect
California State University Sacramento
oake...@csus.edu<mailto:oake...@csus.edu>



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Julian Y Koh
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 12:32 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

On Sep 5, 2019, at 14:08, Turner, Ryan H 
mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>> wrote:

We've done a test deployment of Aruba 515s.  There seem to be some driver 
compatibility issues.  We have 2 IT buildings.  I had an induvial able to 
connect and see SSIDs just fine in our building with 315s.  When she came to 
the building with 515s, she saw nothing.  I updated her drivers, and then 
everything worked.  So just be aware you might see more of that.  We were 
running 8.503 code (I think).

Having users update their device drivers is on our standard troubleshooting 
script for when people call in trouble reports.  It’s been solving problems for 
years.  :)

--
Julian Y. Koh
Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
Northwestern Information Technology

2020 Ridge Avenue #331
Evanston, IL 60208
+1-847-467-5780
Northwestern IT Web Site: <http://www.it.northwestern.edu/>
PGP Public Key: <https://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html>


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Julian Y Koh]

On Sep 5, 2019, at 14:08, Turner, Ryan H 
mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>> wrote:

We've done a test deployment of Aruba 515s.  There seem to be some driver 
compatibility issues.  We have 2 IT buildings.  I had an induvial able to 
connect and see SSIDs just fine in our building with 315s.  When she came to 
the building with 515s, she saw nothing.  I updated her drivers, and then 
everything worked.  So just be aware you might see more of that.  We were 
running 8.503 code (I think).

Having users update their device drivers is on our standard troubleshooting 
script for when people call in trouble reports.  It’s been solving problems for 
years.  :)

--
Julian Y. Koh
Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
Northwestern Information Technology

2020 Ridge Avenue #331
Evanston, IL 60208
+1-847-467-5780
Northwestern IT Web Site: 
PGP Public Key: 


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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

[Turner, Ryan H]

We've done a test deployment of Aruba 515s.  There seem to be some driver 
compatibility issues.  We have 2 IT buildings.  I had an induvial able to 
connect and see SSIDs just fine in our building with 315s.  When she came to 
the building with 515s, she saw nothing.  I updated her drivers, and then 
everything worked.  So just be aware you might see more of that.  We were 
running 8.503 code (I think).


Ryan Turner
Head of Networking
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile
r...@unc.edu



-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Chris Brizzell
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 2:45 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs

Anyone have any Wi-Fi 6 APs deployed yet, and if so any thoughts either good or 
bad. I'm looking at swapping out the APs in our dining hall first, since they 
seem to get the most use.

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