Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Campus Wireless in Married or Family Student housing

2017-09-15 Thread Wesley Troy Scott 
University of Wyoming began to offer comprehensive wireless coverage in all 
University residences beginning last school year. We have offered wired access 
for many years. We have not had new classes of issues as a result of this 
change. Physical access when needed is scheduled with the occupant through our 
reslife team. If you have an account you can use the authenticated wireless and 
access campus resources. If you don't you can use either the guest wireless or 
a wired port that cannot access internal campus but can access the internet and 
public university services.


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Chuck Enfield <chu...@psu.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:44:53 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Campus Wireless in Married or Family Student housing

Mike, our approach is the same as yours.  That said, it's not because of any
significant legal obstacle.  In fact, we have a policy that you're not
allowed on our network without an account (even if we don’t force you to log
in, there is supposed to be some method to identify the user, such as
requiring physical access controls for a wired port).  We make the resident
students with dependents agree to this policy, then put them in a situation
where they are forced to violate or their family will not have network
access.

We considered three solutions to this problem:

1. Change the policy to exempt on-campus residences housing dependents.
That would be easy, but it would be ugly, and at odds with the intent of our
policy and sound practice.

2. We explored this with our Risk, Legal, and Identity Management staff.
Everybody concluded that on-campus residency was sufficient to warrant
issuing an account, and that we were better off providing university
wireless with suitable access controls than we were to turn this
responsibility over to the students.  The only thing we needed to address to
implement it was a tweak to the accounts office processes for issuing
accounts such that the student parent or guardian would agree to the network
use terms and conditions for their non-student minor dependents.  We shifted
our schedule around to move those buildings to the end of the project to
provide time for the account process change, but no change was ever
implemented.

3. Much as you said, we could treat them like apartments and let the local
ISPs provide services to these buildings.  We considered this option viable,
but thought that letting the family members use our network was preferable
for both us and them.

Chuck Enfield
Manager, Wireless Engineering
Enterprise Networking & Communication Services
The Pennsylvania State University
110H, USB2, UP, PA 16802
ph: 814.863.8715
fx: 814.865.3988

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Davis
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:42 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Campus Wireless in Married or Family Student housing

I was wondering if anyone had policies or thoughts on wireless service in
Married/Family student housing?   We've had an informal policy of not
providing it and treating the units as "apartments" where the residents can
purchase and install their own residential wifi.  The thought process (as
handed down in oral history) is that servicing the APs in areas containing
non-University students, had legal implications,etc..  The physical Apt's
are in a "townhouse" style, and the university maintains the maintenance
areas between units and even has Wired networking service to them.

We've been asked to review the policy and was looking for any input on the
subject.

thanks
mike

--
  Mike Davis
  Systems Programmer V
  NSS - University of Delaware  - 302.831.8756
  Newark, DE  19716 Email da...@udel.edu

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Campus Wireless in Married or Family Student housing

2017-09-15 Thread Chuck Enfield 
Mike, our approach is the same as yours.  That said, it's not because of any 
significant legal obstacle.  In fact, we have a policy that you're not 
allowed on our network without an account (even if we don’t force you to log 
in, there is supposed to be some method to identify the user, such as 
requiring physical access controls for a wired port).  We make the resident 
students with dependents agree to this policy, then put them in a situation 
where they are forced to violate or their family will not have network 
access.

We considered three solutions to this problem:

1. Change the policy to exempt on-campus residences housing dependents. 
That would be easy, but it would be ugly, and at odds with the intent of our 
policy and sound practice.

2. We explored this with our Risk, Legal, and Identity Management staff. 
Everybody concluded that on-campus residency was sufficient to warrant 
issuing an account, and that we were better off providing university 
wireless with suitable access controls than we were to turn this 
responsibility over to the students.  The only thing we needed to address to 
implement it was a tweak to the accounts office processes for issuing 
accounts such that the student parent or guardian would agree to the network 
use terms and conditions for their non-student minor dependents.  We shifted 
our schedule around to move those buildings to the end of the project to 
provide time for the account process change, but no change was ever 
implemented.

3. Much as you said, we could treat them like apartments and let the local 
ISPs provide services to these buildings.  We considered this option viable, 
but thought that letting the family members use our network was preferable 
for both us and them.

Chuck Enfield
Manager, Wireless Engineering
Enterprise Networking & Communication Services
The Pennsylvania State University
110H, USB2, UP, PA 16802
ph: 814.863.8715
fx: 814.865.3988

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Davis
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:42 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Campus Wireless in Married or Family Student housing

I was wondering if anyone had policies or thoughts on wireless service in 
Married/Family student housing?   We've had an informal policy of not 
providing it and treating the units as "apartments" where the residents can 
purchase and install their own residential wifi.  The thought process (as 
handed down in oral history) is that servicing the APs in areas containing 
non-University students, had legal implications,etc..  The physical Apt's 
are in a "townhouse" style, and the university maintains the maintenance 
areas between units and even has Wired networking service to them.

We've been asked to review the policy and was looking for any input on the 
subject.

thanks
mike

--
  Mike Davis
  Systems Programmer V
  NSS - University of Delaware  - 302.831.8756
  Newark, DE  19716 Email da...@udel.edu

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Campus Wireless in Married or Family Student housing

2017-09-15 Thread Julian Y Koh 
> On Sep 15, 2017, at 06:41, Michael Davis  wrote:
> 
> I was wondering if anyone had policies or thoughts on wireless service in
> Married/Family student housing? 

We have 2 buildings that provide family housing.  We offer the same services 
there as all the other residence halls.  

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Julian Y. Koh
Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
Northwestern Information Technology

2001 Sheridan Road #G-166
Evanston, IL 60208
+1-847-467-5780
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Campus Wireless in Married or Family Student housing

2017-09-15 Thread Jim Pampinella 
What little is left of married student housing at Syracuse University receives 
the same services as the rest of student housing. At one time we had 35 
buildings dedicated to married student housing. With the development of off 
campus housing that is more conducive to married students with families we are 
down to 2 or 3 buildings (12 units each) with married students.

James A. Pampinella
IT Manager
Network and Wiring Services
T 315.443.5768   M 315.420.2246   F 315.443.4325    
japam...@syr.edu 
004 Machinery Hall, Syracuse, NY 13244
syr.edu | its.syr.edu  
Syracuse University

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Davis
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:42 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Campus Wireless in Married or Family Student housing

I was wondering if anyone had policies or thoughts on wireless service in 
Married/Family student housing?   We've had an informal policy of not providing 
it and treating the units as "apartments" where the residents can purchase and 
install their own residential wifi.  The thought process (as handed down in 
oral history) is that servicing the APs in areas containing non-University 
students, had legal implications,etc..  The physical Apt's are in a "townhouse" 
style, and the university maintains the maintenance areas between units and 
even has Wired networking service to them.

We've been asked to review the policy and was looking for any input on the 
subject.

thanks
mike

--
  Mike Davis
  Systems Programmer V
  NSS - University of Delaware  - 302.831.8756
  Newark, DE  19716 Email da...@udel.edu

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