RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AVC- anyone using it for real in prod?

2014-08-15 Thread Eric T. Barnett
I would use it to QoS AppleTV mirroring, but as far as I know Cisco doesn’t 
have a signature for that yet.


Eric Barnett
Wireless Administrator
Information and Technology Services
Arkansas State University
870 680 4243



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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AVC- anyone using it for real in prod?

We use it to drop certain traffic but not P2P as it will just morph into 
different ports. We just mark and control the bandwidth for all the P2P stuff 
to "try" and make it unusable for users.


Craig

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Ciesinski, Nick 
mailto:ciesi...@uww.edu>> wrote:
Lee,

We have been doing AVC for a few years now to drop P2P.  We are doing it on a 
ASR1k though not the WLC.   We used to use a SCE engine to do it which is where 
the AVC/NBAR2 stuff came from.  We find we don't need to update protocol packs 
that often.

Nick Ciesinski

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AVC- anyone using it for real in prod?

HI Lee,

Getting it humming this month – on a pair of ASR 1006 Routers (sorry not in 
Wireless).
We have Prime Infrastructure (2.1) managing it.

We removed our Anagrans this summer to move to this.

We just upgraded ASR this AM to support it. Will let you know in a month.
I am scheduled to talk/present @ WestNet about our experiences in January.

Signatures = Protocol Packs. You can update them without rebooting the router.

CB

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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AVC- anyone using it for real in prod?


​We are "using" Cisco's WLAN application visibility, but doing little with it 
beyond the occasional looking in.  Elsewhere, we use Palo Alto boxes to shape 
traffic, but are interested in getting the controllers more involved in a prod 
role.



Is anyone relying on AVC to drop traffic like P2P in prod? Is it working well 
for you? How often do you find signature updates available? Any other 
thoughts/comments on experiences, successes, or frustrations with using AVC for 
real- especially on large networks?



Thanks-



Lee Badman




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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AVC- anyone using it for real in prod?

2014-08-12 Thread Craig Eyre
We use it to drop certain traffic but not P2P as it will just morph into
different ports. We just mark and control the bandwidth for all the P2P
stuff to "try" and make it unusable for users.


Craig


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Ciesinski, Nick  wrote:

> Lee,
>
> We have been doing AVC for a few years now to drop P2P.  We are doing it
> on a ASR1k though not the WLC.   We used to use a SCE engine to do it which
> is where the AVC/NBAR2 stuff came from.  We find we don't need to update
> protocol packs that often.
>
> Nick Ciesinski
>
> From: Chad Burnham mailto:cburn...@du.edu>>
> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:40 AM
> To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>"  <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AVC- anyone using it for real in prod?
>
> HI Lee,
>
> Getting it humming this month – on a pair of ASR 1006 Routers (sorry not
> in Wireless).
> We have Prime Infrastructure (2.1) managing it.
>
> We removed our Anagrans this summer to move to this.
>
> We just upgraded ASR this AM to support it. Will let you know in a month.
> I am scheduled to talk/present @ WestNet about our experiences in January.
>
> Signatures = Protocol Packs. You can update them without rebooting the
> router.
>
> CB
>
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:28 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AVC- anyone using it for real in prod?
>
>
> ​We are "using" Cisco's WLAN application visibility, but doing little with
> it beyond the occasional looking in.  Elsewhere, we use Palo Alto boxes to
> shape traffic, but are interested in getting the controllers more involved
> in a prod role.
>
>
>
> Is anyone relying on AVC to drop traffic like P2P in prod? Is it working
> well for you? How often do you find signature updates available? Any other
> thoughts/comments on experiences, successes, or frustrations with using AVC
> for real- especially on large networks?
>
>
>
> Thanks-
>
>
>
> Lee Badman
>
>
>
>
> Lee H. Badman
> Network Architect/Wireless TME
> ITS, Syracuse University
> 315.443.3003
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at
> http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
>



-- 
Craig Eyre
Network Analyst
IT Services Department
Mount Royal University
4825 Mount Royal Gate SW
Calgary AB T2P 3T5

P. 403.440.5199
E. ce...@mtroyal.ca

"The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of
strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will." Vincent
T. Lombardi"

"MRU IT Services or any legitimate organization will *NEVER* ask for your
password. Never email or share your password with anyone.".

**
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AVC- anyone using it for real in prod?

2014-08-12 Thread Ciesinski, Nick
Lee,

We have been doing AVC for a few years now to drop P2P.  We are doing it on a 
ASR1k though not the WLC.   We used to use a SCE engine to do it which is where 
the AVC/NBAR2 stuff came from.  We find we don't need to update protocol packs 
that often.

Nick Ciesinski

From: Chad Burnham mailto:cburn...@du.edu>>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:40 AM
To: 
"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AVC- anyone using it for real in prod?

HI Lee,

Getting it humming this month – on a pair of ASR 1006 Routers (sorry not in 
Wireless).
We have Prime Infrastructure (2.1) managing it.

We removed our Anagrans this summer to move to this.

We just upgraded ASR this AM to support it. Will let you know in a month.
I am scheduled to talk/present @ WestNet about our experiences in January.

Signatures = Protocol Packs. You can update them without rebooting the router.

CB

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:28 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AVC- anyone using it for real in prod?


​We are "using" Cisco's WLAN application visibility, but doing little with it 
beyond the occasional looking in.  Elsewhere, we use Palo Alto boxes to shape 
traffic, but are interested in getting the controllers more involved in a prod 
role.



Is anyone relying on AVC to drop traffic like P2P in prod? Is it working well 
for you? How often do you find signature updates available? Any other 
thoughts/comments on experiences, successes, or frustrations with using AVC for 
real- especially on large networks?



Thanks-



Lee Badman




Lee H. Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003
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