Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WCS statistics

2006-11-29 Thread Todd M. Hall
Attached is an example of how we are graphing.  This graph is one of five on a
page showing the number of users using each of our WLANs.  This page allows us
to select whatever time interval we want graphed (the attached graph is for a 24
hour period).  Future plans are to graph the number of users on each radio on
all of our 550+ APs.  We will add to these as we need new information.

As far as the data we are harvesting from the controllers, we are gathering
information on the controllers, APs, radios, WLANs, and Rogue APs.  We have
several search and report pages that use the information from the database.



On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, David Wang @ UoG CCS wrote:

 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:52:24 -0500
 From: David Wang @ UoG CCS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WCS statistics

 Thanks Todd, I am interested with what kind of graphing you have now. Do you 
 mind share some screenshots or demo?

  David Wang, Networking Services,CCS
 www.uoguelph.ca 519-824-4120 x52046


 Todd M. Hall wrote:

  WCS does not provide very customizable statistics.  We have found that the 
 best
 way to get what we want is to write it ourselves.  We get our data directly 
 from
 the controllers via snmp.  We store some of the information in a mysql 
 database
 for reports and the rest of the data is stored in rrd files for graphing.  We
 still have lots to do, but we are making progress.  The snmp mibs are
 downloadable from Cisco's website.

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WCS statistics

2006-11-29 Thread Lee Badman
The frustrating part is that this detail is available in WLSE in Cisco's
autonomous line- why the LWAPP system would leave these details out is a
bit bewildering. (This is not an invitation for Airwave to call me.)
Hopefully we see improvements in this area from Cisco very, very soon.

Lee

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/29/2006 2:06 PM 
Attached is an example of how we are graphing.  This graph is one of
five on a
page showing the number of users using each of our WLANs.  This page
allows us
to select whatever time interval we want graphed (the attached graph is
for a 24
hour period).  Future plans are to graph the number of users on each
radio on
all of our 550+ APs.  We will add to these as we need new information.

As far as the data we are harvesting from the controllers, we are
gathering
information on the controllers, APs, radios, WLANs, and Rogue APs.  We
have
several search and report pages that use the information from the
database.



On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, David Wang @ UoG CCS wrote:

 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:52:24 -0500
 From: David Wang @ UoG CCS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: 802.11 wireless issues listserv
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WCS statistics

 Thanks Todd, I am interested with what kind of graphing you have now.
Do you mind share some screenshots or demo?

  David Wang, Networking Services,CCS
 www.uoguelph.ca 519-824-4120 x52046


 Todd M. Hall wrote:

  WCS does not provide very customizable statistics.  We have found
that the best
 way to get what we want is to write it ourselves.  We get our data
directly from
 the controllers via snmp.  We store some of the information in a
mysql database
 for reports and the rest of the data is stored in rrd files for
graphing.  We
 still have lots to do, but we are making progress.  The snmp mibs
are
 downloadable from Cisco's website.

 On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, David Wang @ UoG CCS wrote:



  Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:43:22 -0500
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WCS statistics

2006-11-29 Thread Jim Glassford
Hi David,

 If your currently running MRTG or similar, can get authenticated clients with 
the MIB:  1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.1.1.1.38.1 for Wireless LAN Controllers, MIB for 
a Cisco FAT Access Points is 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.273.1.1.2.1.1.1.

Doing twice will give the green with blue highlight
Target[name-of-device.1]: 
1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.1.1.1.38.11.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.1.1.1.38.1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




 This shows the authenticated clients on the Wireless LAN Controller, or if 
Target is a FAT Access Point, authenticated clients on that Access Point.


  If you wanted clients for each lwap off the Wireless LAN Controller, can get 
by appending the ethernet address of the lwap to the following MIB: 
1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.2.2.1.15, ethernet address has to be in decimal though.   
1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.2.2.1.15.decimal-Ethernet-Address-of-lwap

~example;
 if ethernet address of lwap in HEX is 00:0b:85:76:ed:40, decimal would be 
0.11.133.118.237.64
 would then need to snmp query on: 
1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.2.2.1.15.0.11.133.118.237.64.1 off the Wireless LAN 
Controller address


Target[name-of-device.1]: 
1.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.2.2.1.15.0.11.133.118.237.64.11.3.6.1.4.1.14179.2.2.2.1.15.0.11.133.118.237.64.1:[EMAIL
 PROTECTED]


 With old style MRTG log files can also call a script from MRTG configuration 
file, add all the authenticated clients together, store in a new log file and 
graph these.


 Here Blue is access points, lwap and FAT, Green is authenticated clients.



thanks!
jim


- Original Message - 
From: David Wang @ UoG CCS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WCS statistics


 Thanks Todd, I am interested with what kind of graphing you have now. Do you 
 mind share some screenshots or demo? 
 
 David Wang, Networking Services,CCS
 www.uoguelph.ca 519-824-4120 x52046
 
 Todd M. Hall wrote: 
 WCS does not provide very customizable statistics.  We have found that the 
 best
 way to get what we want is to write it ourselves.  We get our data directly 
 from
 the controllers via snmp.  We store some of the information in a mysql 
 database
 for reports and the rest of the data is stored in rrd files for graphing.  We
 still have lots to do, but we are making progress.  The snmp mibs are
 downloadable from Cisco's website.
 
 On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, David Wang @ UoG CCS wrote:
 
  Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:43:22 -0500
 From: David Wang @ UoG CCS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WCS statistics

2006-11-29 Thread Todd M. Hall
If the mibs are installed, you can use these...

Users per AP interface is as follows:
enterprises.airespace.bsnWireless.bsnAP.bsnAPIfTable.bsnAPIfEntry.bsnAPIfPhyTxPowerLevel.

Users per WLAN per controller:
enterprises.airespace.bsnWireless.bsnEss.bsnDot11EssTable.bsnDot11EssEntry.bsnDot11EssNumberOfMobileStations.

Of course, each of these is followed by index values.



You can also gather the following information (as well as lots more)
Radio channel number
Radio transmit power level
AP Oper status
AP Admion status
AP info: name, ethernet mac, location field (we use this to hold inventory
info), model, serial number, certificate type.
User information: mac address, username, interface used, etc
Rogue AP information: ssid, channel, radio type, which internal APs detected it

Once all this is stored, you can generate some very useful statistics pages and
search pages.

For instance, I had a Cisco engineer tell me of a flaw and work around on
particular AP model.  I can tell where they are in seconds.

At a glance, I can see how many APs are on each controller on one page.  No more
looking at each controller separately in WCS.

Note: I received a phone call from someone at Airwave today, I suspect as a
result of my posts to this group.




On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, David Wang @ UoG CCS wrote:

 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:40:02 -0500
 From: David Wang @ UoG CCS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: 802.11 wireless issues listserv
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WCS statistics

 Again thanks for sharing Todd. I am digging into these controller MIB files 
 now. Is possible to gather associated user number
 for each AP (per-ap-interface)?

  David Wang, Networking Services,CCS
 www.uoguelph.ca 519-824-4120 x52046


 Todd M. Hall wrote:

  Attached is an example of how we are graphing.  This graph is one of five on 
 a
 page showing the number of users using each of our WLANs.  This page allows us
 to select whatever time interval we want graphed (the attached graph is for a 
 24
 hour period).  Future plans are to graph the number of users on each radio on
 all of our 550+ APs.  We will add to these as we need new information.

 As far as the data we are harvesting from the controllers, we are gathering
 information on the controllers, APs, radios, WLANs, and Rogue APs.  We have
 several search and report pages that use the information from the database.



 On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, David Wang @ UoG CCS wrote:



  Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:52:24 -0500
 From: David Wang @ UoG CCS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: 802.11 wireless issues listserv
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-- 
Todd M. Hall
Network Analyst
Information Technology Infrastructure
Mississippi State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
662-325-0728 (phone)

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