RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring Class usage with wifi or anything other

2017-05-01 Thread Tariq Adnan 
Hi Lee,

I think my (not so well) description of requirement has caused confusion.

Firstly, I am not after attendance system.

The requirement is to check class usage throughout day. This way if class is 
popular among students, it could be kept open for 24 hours to assist students 
to study in it and not walking all the way to library (which is bit farther 
way). Also if there is some refurbishment works happening in a classroom, we 
could find out what percentage of students could be affected at xyz time. In 
addition, concerned team is interested in who will be using these classrooms 
(usernames, faculty etc. - this could be captured from AD).

For example:
Class room 201 has 20 users at 3pm. The number increased to 35 at 3:15pm etc.


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Cheers,

Kind regards,
Tariq Adnan

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring Class usage with wifi or anything other

There is so much wrong here. Many reasons why using an L1/L2 technology for 
attendance tracking is just not a sound idea.

Lee Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
Syracuse University
315.443.3003

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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring Class usage with wifi or anything other
Hello everyone,

Just checking if you have come across similar requirements and what did you use 
and how did you report on that.

Requirement: Find out class occupancy

* How many students are in class from time to time

* What are their details (names, usernames, etc.)

* For how long they have been in class (session duration)

* Etc.

I have explored 2 things:

* Prime session reports: but how do you know if the device connected 
was in classroom xyz? I can assume that if device was connected to AP inside 
class, that device is inside class. Though it's not completely right as users 
outside class (sitting in corridor) can connect to the AP. Secondly how do you 
tell where AP is? We don't have room location info in AP name. Though you can 
add location to AP when configuring it in Prime but that location info is not 
recorded in reports. It will be very tedious to change all APs labels and names 
to include room locations for them (currently name looks like 
air-BuildingCode-LeveL-number)

* CMX location analytics and Heatmaps: but this doesn't give me enough 
details about connected devices as session reports from Prime.

I am not sure if there is some other parallel technology that can be used.

Thnaks for your valuable time.


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Cheers,

Kind regards,
Tariq

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring Class usage with wifi or anything other

2017-05-01 Thread Jim Glassford 

Hi Tariq,

Some discuss on this before, in the archives under title Attendance.



jim

On 4/30/2017 8:57 PM, Tariq Adnan wrote:


Hello everyone,

Just checking if you have come across similar requirements and what 
did you use and how did you report on that.


Requirement: Find out class occupancy

·How many students are in class from time to time

·What are their details (names, usernames, etc.)

·For how long they have been in class (session duration)

·Etc.

I have explored 2 things:

·Prime session reports: but how do you know if the device connected 
was in classroom xyz? I can assume that if device was connected to AP 
inside class, that device is inside class. Though it’s not completely 
right as users outside class (sitting in corridor) can connect to the 
AP. Secondly how do you tell where AP is? We don’t have room location 
info in AP name. Though you can add location to AP when configuring it 
in Prime but that location info is not recorded in reports. It will be 
very tedious to change all APs labels and names to include room 
locations for them (currently name looks like 
air-BuildingCode-LeveL-number)


·CMX location analytics and Heatmaps: but this doesn’t give me enough 
details about connected devices as session reports from Prime.


I am not sure if there is some other parallel technology that can be used.

Thnaks for your valuable time.

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*Cheers,*

*Kind regards,*

*Tariq*

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring Class usage with wifi or anything other

2017-05-01 Thread Lee H Badman 
There is so much wrong here. Many reasons why using an L1/L2 technology for 
attendance tracking is just not a sound idea.

Lee Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
Syracuse University
315.443.3003

-Original Message-
From: Tariq Adnan [tariq.ad...@sydney.edu.au]
Received: Sunday, 30 Apr 2017, 20:58
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Measuring Class usage with wifi or anything other

Hello everyone,

Just checking if you have come across similar requirements and what did you use 
and how did you report on that.

Requirement: Find out class occupancy

· How many students are in class from time to time

· What are their details (names, usernames, etc.)

· For how long they have been in class (session duration)

· Etc.

I have explored 2 things:

· Prime session reports: but how do you know if the device connected 
was in classroom xyz? I can assume that if device was connected to AP inside 
class, that device is inside class. Though it’s not completely right as users 
outside class (sitting in corridor) can connect to the AP. Secondly how do you 
tell where AP is? We don’t have room location info in AP name. Though you can 
add location to AP when configuring it in Prime but that location info is not 
recorded in reports. It will be very tedious to change all APs labels and names 
to include room locations for them (currently name looks like 
air-BuildingCode-LeveL-number)

· CMX location analytics and Heatmaps: but this doesn’t give me enough 
details about connected devices as session reports from Prime.

I am not sure if there is some other parallel technology that can be used.

Thnaks for your valuable time.


-
Cheers,

Kind regards,
Tariq

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