RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

2018-05-13 Thread Tariq Adnan 
Self-registration: 24 hours (from the time the account is created)
Arranging access via Servicedesk: could be anything depending upon the need 
(duration of conference etc.)


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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Daniel Wurst
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2018 2:00 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

Hi all!

This summer we plan to make changes to our guest wireless solution. We plan to 
have users go to a captive portal page on our Aruba controllers. Currently we 
have our re-authentication interval set to 8 hours. We were wondering how often 
other universities are making wireless guests re-authenticate to their networks.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Have a good one!

Dan
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

2018-05-12 Thread Yahya M. Jaber 
We do 1 day with AUP.
We had a registration portal before with SMS validation, but since guest come 
from different countries with different mobile ISP, we had complains that they 
didn’t receive the SMS, so we changed it to AUP to be more frictionless.
And sometimes they come with a laptop only, so no way to get the SMS.


Yahya Jaber.
Sr. Wireless Engineer
IT Network & Communications – Engineering
Building 14, Level 3, Rm 308-WS07
KAUST 23955-6900 Thuwal, KSA

Email yahya.ja...@kaust.edu.sa<mailto:yahya.ja...@kaust.edu.sa>
Office +966 (0) 12 8081237
Mobile +966 (0) 558697555
On Call Rotation Mobile: +966 54 470 1177

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Daniel Wurst
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 19:00
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

Hi all!

This summer we plan to make changes to our guest wireless solution. We plan to 
have users go to a captive portal page on our Aruba controllers. Currently we 
have our re-authentication interval set to 8 hours. We were wondering how often 
other universities are making wireless guests re-authenticate to their networks.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Have a good one!

Dan
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Network Engineer
Denison University
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740-587-6229

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

2018-05-11 Thread Thomas Carter 
1 day (24 hours).

Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin College
900 North Grand Avenue
Sherman, TX 75090
Phone: 903-813-2564
www.austincollege.edu<http://www.austincollege.edu/>

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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Daniel Wurst
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 11:00 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

Hi all!

This summer we plan to make changes to our guest wireless solution. We plan to 
have users go to a captive portal page on our Aruba controllers. Currently we 
have our re-authentication interval set to 8 hours. We were wondering how often 
other universities are making wireless guests re-authenticate to their networks.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Have a good one!

Dan
--
Daniel Wurst
Network Engineer
Denison University
wur...@denison.edu<mailto:wur...@denison.edu>
740-587-6229

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

2018-05-10 Thread Holland, Stephen 
We allow users to self-register and send password via text message.
Authentication is good for 12 Hours and they can re-register

We also allow conference guests to login with one-day conference code which is 
good for that day.

While on the topic  of guest portals. What do people think of using social 
media accounts as a guest login?.

Stephen  Holland
Network Engineer
Northeastern University



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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 12:16 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

Users that are not sponsored:
 - can self-register
 - the password (6 digits) is sent via email/SMS to ensure we have *some* point 
of contact
 - the account is good for 9 hours (a work day plus some wiggle room).
 - If they forget their password or want to extend/renew their account, they 
can simply re-register.

Sponsored accounts:
 - username/password is generated by the department, and it is up to the 
department to give this to the guest
 - valid for up to 30 days, as set by the sponsor

In both cases, once the guest is logged in through a web login, the MAC is 
cached, and the user does not have to log in again, as long as their account is 
valid.

Side note, we also use eduroam as our primary wireless network. Anyone with 
valid eduroam credentials will just connect automatically.


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Jonathan Waldrep
Network Engineer
Network Infrastructure and Services
Virginia Tech

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Watters, John 
<john.watt...@ua.edu<mailto:john.watt...@ua.edu>> wrote:
We also use 7 days with a 3 renewal limit, giving them 28 days. I think this 
resets after 1 year. But, our group does not take care of this. The Security 
folks handle this with their NAC. And, exceptions can be made on a MAC address 
basis.

John Watters
Network Engineer, OIT, The University of Alabama

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To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

Hi all!

This summer we plan to make changes to our guest wireless solution. We plan to 
have users go to a captive portal page on our Aruba controllers. Currently we 
have our re-authentication interval set to 8 hours. We were wondering how often 
other universities are making wireless guests re-authenticate to their networks.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Have a good one!

Dan
--
Daniel Wurst
Network Engineer
Denison University
wur...@denison.edu<mailto:wur...@denison.edu>
740-587-6229

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

2018-05-10 Thread Adam T. Ferrero 

  We let folks captive portal to Clearpass on an open SSID and we Twilio SMS 
text them a credential.  Then they switch to the WPA2 SSID and the credential 
is good for 5 days.  It’s around 1,000 guests per day.

  Adam

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Daniel Wurst
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 12:00 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

Hi all!

This summer we plan to make changes to our guest wireless solution. We plan to 
have users go to a captive portal page on our Aruba controllers. Currently we 
have our re-authentication interval set to 8 hours. We were wondering how often 
other universities are making wireless guests re-authenticate to their networks.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Have a good one!

Dan
--
Daniel Wurst
Network Engineer
Denison University
wur...@denison.edu<mailto:wur...@denison.edu>
740-587-6229

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

2018-05-10 Thread Jonathan Waldrep 
Users that are not sponsored:
 - can self-register
 - the password (6 digits) is sent via email/SMS to ensure we have *some*
point of contact
 - the account is good for 9 hours (a work day plus some wiggle room).
 - If they forget their password or want to extend/renew their account,
they can simply re-register.

Sponsored accounts:
 - username/password is generated by the department, and it is up to the
department to give this to the guest
 - valid for up to 30 days, as set by the sponsor

In both cases, once the guest is logged in through a web login, the MAC is
cached, and the user does not have to log in again, as long as their
account is valid.

Side note, we also use eduroam as our primary wireless network. Anyone with
valid eduroam credentials will just connect automatically.


--
Jonathan Waldrep
Network Engineer
Network Infrastructure and Services
Virginia Tech

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Watters, John <john.watt...@ua.edu> wrote:

> We also use 7 days with a 3 renewal limit, giving them 28 days. I think
> this resets after 1 year. But, our group does not take care of this. The
> Security folks handle this with their NAC. And, exceptions can be made on a
> MAC address basis.
>
>
>
> *John Watters*
>
> Network Engineer, OIT, The University of Alabama
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Wurst
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2018 11:00 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless
> solutions
>
>
>
> Hi all!
>
>
>
> This summer we plan to make changes to our guest wireless solution. We
> plan to have users go to a captive portal page on our Aruba controllers.
> Currently we have our re-authentication interval set to 8 hours. We were
> wondering how often other universities are making wireless guests
> re-authenticate to their networks.
>
>
>
> Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Have a good one!
>
>
>
> Dan
>
> --
>
> Daniel Wurst
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Denison University
>
> wur...@denison.edu
>
> 740-587-6229
>
>
>
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

2018-05-10 Thread Max McGrath 
We are 24 hours.

Max

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Max McGrath  
Infrastructure and Security Manager
Carthage College
262-551-
mmcgr...@carthage.edu

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Daniel Wurst  wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> This summer we plan to make changes to our guest wireless solution. We
> plan to have users go to a captive portal page on our Aruba controllers.
> Currently we have our re-authentication interval set to 8 hours. We were
> wondering how often other universities are making wireless guests
> re-authenticate to their networks.
>
> Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
>
> Have a good one!
>
> Dan
> --
> Daniel Wurst
> Network Engineer
> Denison University
> wur...@denison.edu
> 740-587-6229
>
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
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> discuss.
>
>

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

2018-05-10 Thread Watters, John 
We also use 7 days with a 3 renewal limit, giving them 28 days. I think this 
resets after 1 year. But, our group does not take care of this. The Security 
folks handle this with their NAC. And, exceptions can be made on a MAC address 
basis.

John Watters
Network Engineer, OIT, The University of Alabama

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Daniel Wurst
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 11:00 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

Hi all!

This summer we plan to make changes to our guest wireless solution. We plan to 
have users go to a captive portal page on our Aruba controllers. Currently we 
have our re-authentication interval set to 8 hours. We were wondering how often 
other universities are making wireless guests re-authenticate to their networks.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Have a good one!

Dan
--
Daniel Wurst
Network Engineer
Denison University
wur...@denison.edu<mailto:wur...@denison.edu>
740-587-6229

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Re-authentication times for guest wireless solutions

2018-05-10 Thread Julian Y Koh 
> On May 10, 2018, at 11:00, Daniel Wurst  wrote:
> 
> This summer we plan to make changes to our guest wireless solution. We plan 
> to have users go to a captive portal page on our Aruba controllers. Currently 
> we have our re-authentication interval set to 8 hours. We were wondering how 
> often other universities are making wireless guests re-authenticate to their 
> networks.
> 

We do 7 days for registration.

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Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
Northwestern Information Technology

2020 Ridge Avenue #331
Evanston, IL 60208
+1-847-467-5780
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