RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz
After the discussion on this thread we enabled band select back on the 20th August with no issues reported. I’ve been away so haven’t had time yet to see how much of a difference this has actually made to devices connecting at 5ghz rather than 2.4ghz. -- Jason Cook The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au%3cmailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ashfield, Matt (NBCC) Sent: Saturday, 30 August 2014 12:14 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz We are using cisco 5508 and are wondering if people recommend enabling Band Select and/or Load Balancing per SSID? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks Matt NBCC From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Justin Dover Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:28 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz We use Aerohive and it's band steering does a pretty good job of making sure most 5ghz devices are connected at 5ghz. We average 50-70% of our clients connect at 5ghz. Justin Dover Harpeth Hall School 615-200-0426tel:615-200-0426 www.harpethhall.orghttp://www.harpethhall.org My Calendarhttp://dover.youcanbook.me/ On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote: Thanks Norman We are definitely going to work a bit more with trying to keep just the 1 SSID based on responses, starting the process now gives us heaps of time to explore options before 2015. No one so far has come back with similar issues that we are experiencing so it suggests we should be able to resolve this without another SSID. -- Jason Cook The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800tel:%2B61%208%208313%204800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Norman Elton Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 3:10 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz Just a heads up, we had W-M_Wireless and W-M_Wireless_Turbo. People figured out that the turbo network was faster. We thought that was a little more transparent than premium. We eventually abandoned the idea, as most clients were correctly choosing the 5 GHz radios anyway. In addition, clients had to be set to prefer your turbo network. This wasn't always the case. I don't think think the second SSID really helped the overall adoption of 5 GHz. Hopefully your mileage will vary :) Norman Elton College of William Mary On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote: Thanks Bruce, Cisco. We disabled band select a few years ago, but from some replies so far it might be worth a try again. Time to start some testing. Regards Jason -- Jason Cook The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800tel:%2B61%208%208313%204800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2014 9:04 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz You do not say what wireless vendor you use. We find Aruba’s Client Match Bans Steering work quite well to steer clients to 5GHz and less used APs. Bruce Osborne Network Engineer – Wireless Team IT Network Services (434) 592-4229tel:%28434%29%20592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 From: Jason Cook [mailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:33 AM Subject: SSID Naming 5ghz HI All, I’m sure I’ve seen discussions like this but can’t seem find any. Has anyone gone down the path of creating 5ghz only SSID’s simply to get around the issue of devices connecting at 2.4ghz even though they support 5ghz? We find this occurs a lot and in the dense environments users have a pretty average time using 2.4 or swapping between 2.4 and 5. So far in testing having a 5ghz only SSID has helped a lot
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz
We are using cisco 5508 and are wondering if people recommend enabling Band Select and/or Load Balancing per SSID? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks Matt NBCC From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Justin Dover Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:28 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz We use Aerohive and it's band steering does a pretty good job of making sure most 5ghz devices are connected at 5ghz. We average 50-70% of our clients connect at 5ghz. Justin Dover Harpeth Hall School 615-200-0426tel:615-200-0426 www.harpethhall.orghttp://www.harpethhall.org My Calendarhttp://dover.youcanbook.me/ On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote: Thanks Norman We are definitely going to work a bit more with trying to keep just the 1 SSID based on responses, starting the process now gives us heaps of time to explore options before 2015. No one so far has come back with similar issues that we are experiencing so it suggests we should be able to resolve this without another SSID. -- Jason Cook The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800tel:%2B61%208%208313%204800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Norman Elton Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 3:10 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz Just a heads up, we had W-M_Wireless and W-M_Wireless_Turbo. People figured out that the turbo network was faster. We thought that was a little more transparent than premium. We eventually abandoned the idea, as most clients were correctly choosing the 5 GHz radios anyway. In addition, clients had to be set to prefer your turbo network. This wasn't always the case. I don't think think the second SSID really helped the overall adoption of 5 GHz. Hopefully your mileage will vary :) Norman Elton College of William Mary On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote: Thanks Bruce, Cisco. We disabled band select a few years ago, but from some replies so far it might be worth a try again. Time to start some testing. Regards Jason -- Jason Cook The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800tel:%2B61%208%208313%204800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2014 9:04 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz You do not say what wireless vendor you use. We find Aruba’s Client Match Bans Steering work quite well to steer clients to 5GHz and less used APs. Bruce Osborne Network Engineer – Wireless Team IT Network Services (434) 592-4229tel:%28434%29%20592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 From: Jason Cook [mailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:33 AM Subject: SSID Naming 5ghz HI All, I’m sure I’ve seen discussions like this but can’t seem find any. Has anyone gone down the path of creating 5ghz only SSID’s simply to get around the issue of devices connecting at 2.4ghz even though they support 5ghz? We find this occurs a lot and in the dense environments users have a pretty average time using 2.4 or swapping between 2.4 and 5. So far in testing having a 5ghz only SSID has helped a lot. This unfortunately provides another SSID in the air, but the benefits should be worth it. Currently we have UofA (primary SSID) UofA-help (open SSID with web-redirect to guides/documentation) eduroam We are looking at creating UofA Premium Or a different word(gold, Ultra, platinum etc), just something that makes someone want to use it if they see it. The current workaround uses UofA 5ghz, however a technical name isn’t the best idea as it means nothing to most users. So has anyone else taken this path? What naming did you use, anything that seems less bland that premium would be goodJ Apart from that has anyone successfully worked around the issue of devices connecting at 2.4ghz despite being 5ghz capable using another method? Cisco’s Band Select
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz
On 08/29/2014 10:44 AM, Ashfield, Matt (NBCC) wrote: We are using cisco 5508 and are wondering if people recommend enabling Band Select and/or Load Balancing per SSID? We have both enabled and have seen no issues. We changed the default load balancing settings to client window size 20 in order to minimize balancing on lightly used ap's. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz
We use Aerohive and it's band steering does a pretty good job of making sure most 5ghz devices are connected at 5ghz. We average 50-70% of our clients connect at 5ghz. Justin Dover Harpeth Hall School 615-200-0426 www.harpethhall.org My Calendar http://dover.youcanbook.me/ On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote: Thanks Norman We are definitely going to work a bit more with trying to keep just the 1 SSID based on responses, starting the process now gives us heaps of time to explore options before 2015. No one so far has come back with similar issues that we are experiencing so it suggests we should be able to resolve this without another SSID. -- Jason Cook The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Norman Elton Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 3:10 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz Just a heads up, we had W-M_Wireless and W-M_Wireless_Turbo. People figured out that the turbo network was faster. We thought that was a little more transparent than premium. We eventually abandoned the idea, as most clients were correctly choosing the 5 GHz radios anyway. In addition, clients had to be set to prefer your turbo network. This wasn't always the case. I don't think think the second SSID really helped the overall adoption of 5 GHz. Hopefully your mileage will vary :) Norman Elton College of William Mary On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote: Thanks Bruce, Cisco. We disabled band select a few years ago, but from some replies so far it might be worth a try again. Time to start some testing. Regards Jason -- Jason Cook The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2014 9:04 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz You do not say what wireless vendor you use. We find Aruba’s Client Match Bans Steering work quite well to steer clients to 5GHz and less used APs. Bruce Osborne Network Engineer – Wireless Team IT Network Services (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 From: Jason Cook [mailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:33 AM Subject: SSID Naming 5ghz HI All, I’m sure I’ve seen discussions like this but can’t seem find any. Has anyone gone down the path of creating 5ghz only SSID’s simply to get around the issue of devices connecting at 2.4ghz even though they support 5ghz? We find this occurs a lot and in the dense environments users have a pretty average time using 2.4 or swapping between 2.4 and 5. So far in testing having a 5ghz only SSID has helped a lot. This unfortunately provides another SSID in the air, but the benefits should be worth it. Currently we have UofA (primary SSID) UofA-help (open SSID with web-redirect to guides/documentation) eduroam We are looking at creating UofA Premium Or a different word(gold, Ultra, platinum etc), just something that makes someone want to use it if they see it. The current workaround uses UofA 5ghz, however a technical name isn’t the best idea as it means nothing to most users. So has anyone else taken this path? What naming did you use, anything that seems less bland that premium would be goodJ Apart from that has anyone successfully worked around the issue of devices connecting at 2.4ghz despite being 5ghz capable using another method? Cisco’s Band Select doesn’t impress. Some devices can be configured to prefer 5ghz, but this is very limited. Regards Jason -- Jason Cook Technology Services The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au CRICOS Provider Number 00123M --- This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please do not read, save, forward, disclose, or copy the contents of this email. If this email has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete this email and any copies
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz
Thanks Norman We are definitely going to work a bit more with trying to keep just the 1 SSID based on responses, starting the process now gives us heaps of time to explore options before 2015. No one so far has come back with similar issues that we are experiencing so it suggests we should be able to resolve this without another SSID. -- Jason Cook The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Norman Elton Sent: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 3:10 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz Just a heads up, we had W-M_Wireless and W-M_Wireless_Turbo. People figured out that the turbo network was faster. We thought that was a little more transparent than premium. We eventually abandoned the idea, as most clients were correctly choosing the 5 GHz radios anyway. In addition, clients had to be set to prefer your turbo network. This wasn't always the case. I don't think think the second SSID really helped the overall adoption of 5 GHz. Hopefully your mileage will vary :) Norman Elton College of William Mary On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote: Thanks Bruce, Cisco. We disabled band select a few years ago, but from some replies so far it might be worth a try again. Time to start some testing. Regards Jason -- Jason Cook The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2014 9:04 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz You do not say what wireless vendor you use. We find Aruba’s Client Match Bans Steering work quite well to steer clients to 5GHz and less used APs. Bruce Osborne Network Engineer – Wireless Team IT Network Services (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 From: Jason Cook [mailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:33 AM Subject: SSID Naming 5ghz HI All, I’m sure I’ve seen discussions like this but can’t seem find any. Has anyone gone down the path of creating 5ghz only SSID’s simply to get around the issue of devices connecting at 2.4ghz even though they support 5ghz? We find this occurs a lot and in the dense environments users have a pretty average time using 2.4 or swapping between 2.4 and 5. So far in testing having a 5ghz only SSID has helped a lot. This unfortunately provides another SSID in the air, but the benefits should be worth it. Currently we have UofA (primary SSID) UofA-help (open SSID with web-redirect to guides/documentation) eduroam We are looking at creating UofA Premium Or a different word(gold, Ultra, platinum etc), just something that makes someone want to use it if they see it. The current workaround uses UofA 5ghz, however a technical name isn’t the best idea as it means nothing to most users. So has anyone else taken this path? What naming did you use, anything that seems less bland that premium would be goodJ Apart from that has anyone successfully worked around the issue of devices connecting at 2.4ghz despite being 5ghz capable using another method? Cisco’s Band Select doesn’t impress. Some devices can be configured to prefer 5ghz, but this is very limited. Regards Jason -- Jason Cook Technology Services The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au CRICOS Provider Number 00123M --- This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please do not read, save, forward, disclose, or copy the contents of this email. If this email has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete this email and any copies or links to this email completely and immediately from your system. No representation is made that this email is free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz
Just a heads up, we had W-M_Wireless and W-M_Wireless_Turbo. People figured out that the turbo network was faster. We thought that was a little more transparent than premium. We eventually abandoned the idea, as most clients were correctly choosing the 5 GHz radios anyway. In addition, clients had to be set to prefer your turbo network. This wasn't always the case. I don't think think the second SSID really helped the overall adoption of 5 GHz. Hopefully your mileage will vary :) Norman Elton College of William Mary On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote: Thanks Bruce, Cisco. We disabled band select a few years ago, but from some replies so far it might be worth a try again. Time to start some testing. Regards Jason -- Jason Cook The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2014 9:04 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz You do not say what wireless vendor you use. We find Aruba’s Client Match Bans Steering work quite well to steer clients to 5GHz and less used APs. Bruce Osborne Network Engineer – Wireless Team IT Network Services (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 From: Jason Cook [mailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:33 AM Subject: SSID Naming 5ghz HI All, I’m sure I’ve seen discussions like this but can’t seem find any. Has anyone gone down the path of creating 5ghz only SSID’s simply to get around the issue of devices connecting at 2.4ghz even though they support 5ghz? We find this occurs a lot and in the dense environments users have a pretty average time using 2.4 or swapping between 2.4 and 5. So far in testing having a 5ghz only SSID has helped a lot. This unfortunately provides another SSID in the air, but the benefits should be worth it. Currently we have UofA (primary SSID) UofA-help (open SSID with web-redirect to guides/documentation) eduroam We are looking at creating UofA Premium Or a different word(gold, Ultra, platinum etc), just something that makes someone want to use it if they see it. The current workaround uses UofA 5ghz, however a technical name isn’t the best idea as it means nothing to most users. So has anyone else taken this path? What naming did you use, anything that seems less bland that premium would be goodJ Apart from that has anyone successfully worked around the issue of devices connecting at 2.4ghz despite being 5ghz capable using another method? Cisco’s Band Select doesn’t impress. Some devices can be configured to prefer 5ghz, but this is very limited. Regards Jason -- Jason Cook Technology Services The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au CRICOS Provider Number 00123M --- This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please do not read, save, forward, disclose, or copy the contents of this email. If this email has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete this email and any copies or links to this email completely and immediately from your system. No representation is made that this email is free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz
Hi, We haven't had the need to explore this as yet. We run two SSIDs, one for guest access and eduroam. Most of our devices seem to be Apple devices which are reasonably successful at picking 5GHz over 2.4GHz. We've found that band select seems to be behaving as advertised but we haven't investigated in depth. Cheers, Tristan On 11 Aug 2014, at 4:32 pm, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote: HI All, I’m sure I’ve seen discussions like this but can’t seem find any. Has anyone gone down the path of creating 5ghz only SSID’s simply to get around the issue of devices connecting at 2.4ghz even though they support 5ghz? We find this occurs a lot and in the dense environments users have a pretty average time using 2.4 or swapping between 2.4 and 5. So far in testing having a 5ghz only SSID has helped a lot. This unfortunately provides another SSID in the air, but the benefits should be worth it. Currently we have UofA (primary SSID) UofA-help (open SSID with web-redirect to guides/documentation) eduroam We are looking at creating UofA Premium Or a different word(gold, Ultra, platinum etc), just something that makes someone want to use it if they see it. The current workaround uses UofA 5ghz, however a technical name isn’t the best idea as it means nothing to most users. So has anyone else taken this path? What naming did you use, anything that seems less bland that premium would be goodJ Apart from that has anyone successfully worked around the issue of devices connecting at 2.4ghz despite being 5ghz capable using another method? Cisco’s Band Select doesn’t impress. Some devices can be configured to prefer 5ghz, but this is very limited. Regards Jason -- Jason Cook Technology Services The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au CRICOS Provider Number 00123M --- This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please do not read, save, forward, disclose, or copy the contents of this email. If this email has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete this email and any copies or links to this email completely and immediately from your system. No representation is made that this email is free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found athttp://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz
On 12/08/14 11:52, Tristan Gulyas wrote: We haven't had the need to explore this as yet. We run two SSIDs, one for guest access and eduroam. Most of our devices seem to be Apple devices which are reasonably successful at picking 5GHz over 2.4GHz. We've found that band select seems to be behaving as advertised but we haven't investigated in depth. We're a primarily Apple school, and I don't even have band select enabled and 81% of my clients are on 5GHz. Most of our SSIDs are on 5GHz and 2.4GHz, with the Guest SSID only on 2.4GHz in most places. We do have 1 AP per classroom (yes, I know, it made sense when iPads only had 20Mhz/1SS 802.11n). Which vendors offer 5GHz-only APs? Particularly with 802.11ac being 5GHz only and performing best at short ranges, it seems like a great way to provide fill-in coverage and performance, as well as staying within 803.3af. -- James Andrewartha Network Projects Engineer Christ Church Grammar School Claremont, Western Australia Ph. (08) 9442 1757 Mob. 0424 160 877 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz
Thanks/Tristan James Interesting that without bandselect you are finding most devices are happily connecting at 5. Though most of our complaints on this issue come from non OS X users so perhaps Apple have it working quite well now. We do find a few OSX hosts that stick with 2.4, but a lot of them tend to move around a bit. We have a about a 50% split 2.4 and 5ghz clients when looking at concurrent stats, though what we don't know easily is which 2.4ghz clients can do 5. Exporting some data and playing with it should provide that though if Prime will let me export what I need. Not all our installs are suitable for 5ghz only since the AP density isn't high enough. Don't know of any 5ghz only AP's, I'm sure Cisco did do that in the past and the single band AP's were cheaper. Tristan, Interesting that band select seems to be working well, we used to run it but seemed to have some potential issues and noted a few others around also having some. After disabling it there were less reports of connection issues. It's been disabled for a few years, so perhaps it's time to look into it again.. Anyone else have recent success or issues enabled Band Select? Whether Cisco or another vendors version? -- Jason Cook The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of James Andrewartha Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2014 2:04 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID Naming 5ghz On 12/08/14 11:52, Tristan Gulyas wrote: We haven't had the need to explore this as yet. We run two SSIDs, one for guest access and eduroam. Most of our devices seem to be Apple devices which are reasonably successful at picking 5GHz over 2.4GHz. We've found that band select seems to be behaving as advertised but we haven't investigated in depth. We're a primarily Apple school, and I don't even have band select enabled and 81% of my clients are on 5GHz. Most of our SSIDs are on 5GHz and 2.4GHz, with the Guest SSID only on 2.4GHz in most places. We do have 1 AP per classroom (yes, I know, it made sense when iPads only had 20Mhz/1SS 802.11n). Which vendors offer 5GHz-only APs? Particularly with 802.11ac being 5GHz only and performing best at short ranges, it seems like a great way to provide fill-in coverage and performance, as well as staying within 803.3af. -- James Andrewartha Network Projects Engineer Christ Church Grammar School Claremont, Western Australia Ph. (08) 9442 1757 Mob. 0424 160 877 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
