Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Smart TVs and other "smart" devices

[Jeremy Gibbs]

We are having the same issue.  So many people with these WiFi direct
devices.  It is causing serious performance problems with our WiFi network,
especially the people who can't connect at 5 Ghz.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote:

> There is a glaring element of cluelessness here- is amazing.
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> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Osborne, Bruce W
> (Network Services)
> *Sent:* Monday, September 14, 2015 7:27 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Smart TVs and other "smart" devices
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> And the enterprise Wi-Fi vendors choose to ignore Wi-Fi Direct.
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> A while ago when the specification was approved, I asked our vendor how
> they were going to deal with this. They could not see how this home
> technology would impact the enterprise network.
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> *Bruce Osborne*
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> *Wireless Engineer*
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> *IT Infrastructure & Media Solutions*
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> *From:* Thomas Carter [mailto:tcar...@austincollege.edu
> <tcar...@austincollege.edu>]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 7, 2015 6:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Smart TVs and other "smart" devices
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> Yes, wiFi direct is growing in use – Playstation 4s broadcast wifi direct
> to connect to Playstation portables. Some Roku players use wifi direct for
> remote controls. We have a blanket statement disallowing anything that we
> deem interference with the campus wireless.  As a smaller private
> institution, we work with the students to remove the wireless network. It’s
> no different than most HP wireless printers that broadcast a wireless
> network for setup.
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>
> Thomas Carter
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> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Gibbs
> *Sent:* Monday, September 7, 2015 2:26 PM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Smart TVs and other "smart" devices
>
>
>
> I have been seeing more and more students coming to campus with "smart"
> tv's.  We allow them to register the TV on our wireless network.  Recently,
> I have been seeing a lot of "Hidden" networks when doing some WiFi scans.
> Turns out, many of these TVs are broadcasting their own SSID, some hidden
> and some not.  This is obviously causing interference with our production
> wireless network in the dorms.  Also, I have seen xbox one devices
> broadcasting their own SSID, hidden but it is broadcasting.
>
>
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> On many of these "Smart" TVs and devices, I cannot find a way to turn off
> the broadcast of these networks.
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>
>
> Anyone have any experience mitigating problems like these?  It just
> appears that every new device these days broadcasts some sort of 2.4 Ghz
> network.
>
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>
> Thanks
>
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>
> *-- Jeremy L. Gibbs*
>
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Utica College IITS
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Utica College IITS

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Smart TVs and other "smart" devices

[Julian Y Koh]

On Mon Sep 14 2015 06:27:08 CDT, "Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)" 
 wrote:
> 
> And the enterprise Wi-Fi vendors choose to ignore Wi-Fi Direct.
> 

This is not just in the residence halls either - business class equipment (like 
the MS Surface Hub) uses this for clients to project content and other things.  


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Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services
Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT)

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Smart TVs and other "smart" devices

[Thomas Carter]

Yes, wiFi direct is growing in use – Playstation 4s broadcast wifi direct to 
connect to Playstation portables. Some Roku players use wifi direct for remote 
controls. We have a blanket statement disallowing anything that we deem 
interference with the campus wireless.  As a smaller private institution, we 
work with the students to remove the wireless network. It’s no different than 
most HP wireless printers that broadcast a wireless network for setup.

Thomas Carter

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gibbs
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 2:26 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Smart TVs and other "smart" devices

I have been seeing more and more students coming to campus with "smart" tv's.  
We allow them to register the TV on our wireless network.  Recently, I have 
been seeing a lot of "Hidden" networks when doing some WiFi scans.  Turns out, 
many of these TVs are broadcasting their own SSID, some hidden and some not.  
This is obviously causing interference with our production wireless network in 
the dorms.  Also, I have seen xbox one devices broadcasting their own SSID, 
hidden but it is broadcasting.

On many of these "Smart" TVs and devices, I cannot find a way to turn off the 
broadcast of these networks.

Anyone have any experience mitigating problems like these?  It just appears 
that every new device these days broadcasts some sort of 2.4 Ghz network.

Thanks


--

Jeremy L. Gibbs
Sr. Network Engineer
Utica College IITS

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