Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-06 Thread heath.barnhart

We do the same thing for the most part.

Heath

On 7/2/2010 8:09 AM, Daniel Eklund wrote:
We provide free guest access, but not open access.  Guests must be 
vouched for by a faculty or staff member and that person takes 
responsibility for the actions of the guest while they use the 
network.  We have a simple online process that the faculty or staff 
member uses to create a temporary ID and password for their guest.  
They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID can be requested 
to have a lifetime up to 1 week.  After that time the ID is deleted.


--
Daniel Eklund
Director, Networking
Wayne State University
313-577-5558


- Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu wrote:

Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus?
How are you dealing with CALEA if you are?
Do you use your edu address?
Thanks,
Thomas R. Neiss
Director of ITS Telecommunications
University at Albany
1400 Washington Ave
Albany, NY 1
(518) 437-3803
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Christian.Heroux
Hello,

 

Mcgill University  here in Montreal has a similar policy,

http://knowledgebase.mcgill.ca/display/2/articleDirect/index.asp?aid=2264r=0.5351679

https://search.mcgill.ca/fasttrack/?appl=guest

 

We would like to have similar solution but we do not want to develop the 
application our self. Have you come across a web applications that would do 
this?

 

Christian Heroux

University of Quebec

Montreal

 

 

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[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of heath.barnhart
Sent: 6 juillet 2010 09:18
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

 

We do the same thing for the most part.

Heath

On 7/2/2010 8:09 AM, Daniel Eklund wrote: 

We provide free guest access, but not open access.  Guests must be vouched for 
by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the 
actions of the guest while they use the network.  We have a simple online 
process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and 
password for their guest.  They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID 
can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week.  After that time the ID is 
deleted.

--
Daniel Eklund
Director, Networking
Wayne State University
313-577-5558


- Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu mailto:tne...@uamail.albany.edu  
wrote: 
 

Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus?

How are you dealing with CALEA if you are?

Do you use your edu address?

Thanks,

 

Thomas R. Neiss

Director of ITS Telecommunications

University at Albany

1400 Washington Ave

Albany, NY 1

(518) 437-3803

 

 

 

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-06 Thread David LaPorte
We're using the Cisco Guest NAC Server to provide sponsored guest access
and it's worked fine for us.  It ships as an appliance.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10160/index.html

Dave

On 7/6/10 3:48 PM, Christian Heroux wrote:
 Hello,
 
  
 
 Mcgill University  here in Montreal has a similar policy,
 
 http://knowledgebase.mcgill.ca/display/2/articleDirect/index.asp?aid=2264r=0.5351679
 http://knowledgebase.mcgill.ca/display/2/articleDirect/index.asp?aid=2264r=0.5351679
 
 https://search.mcgill.ca/fasttrack/?appl=guest
 
  
 
 We would like to have similar solution but we do not want to develop the
 application our self. Have you come across a web applications that would
 do this?
 
  
 
 Christian Heroux
 
 University of Quebec
 
 Montreal

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-03 Thread Winston Chow


-Original Message-
From: Armstrong, Geoff geoff...@exchange.ubc.ca
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:18 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

Hi Tom,
 
We have an open unauthenticated SSID called ubcvisitor. Upon connecting, the 
guest is presented with a captive portal which displays our AUP and services 
they can access. The user must then enter an email address at the bottom of the 
disclaimer and hit accept in order to start their session. 
 
Outbound from the network we block all ports except for those used by these 
services; http, https, pops, imaps, smtps, pptp, l2tp, IPsec, ssh and ntp. 
 
On the wireless controllers this SSID is set to the lowest traffic priority 
setting (Bronze in Cisco WLC land).
 
We use publicly routable, commercial IP space. This makes it easier on us when 
it comes to logging and tracing. This also prohibits access to many services 
only available from our academic IP space which makes its use a deterrent to 
students, staff and faculty. 
 
We initially only intended to keep this network on for the 2010 Winter Olympics 
but due to popular demand we have turned it into a permanent fixture here at 
UBC. 
 
Geoff Armstrong
Network Support Analyst
Network Management Centre
University of British Columbia – Information Technology
(604) 822-1305
UBC Wireless
 
 
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Neiss, Tom
 Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 5:02 AM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions
 
Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus?
How are you dealing with CALEA if you are?
Do you use your edu address?
Thanks,
 
Thomas R. Neiss
Director of ITS Telecommunications
University at Albany
1400 Washington Ave
Albany, NY 1
(518) 437-3803
 
 
 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-02 Thread Daniel Eklund
We provide free guest access, but not open access. Guests must be vouched for 
by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the 
actions of the guest while they use the network. We have a simple online 
process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and 
password for their guest. They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID 
can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week. After that time the ID is 
deleted. 

-- 
Daniel Eklund 
Director, Networking 
Wayne State University 
313-577-5558 


- Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu wrote: 
 
Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus? 
How are you dealing with CALEA if you are? 
Do you use your edu address? 
Thanks, 

Thomas R. Neiss 
Director of ITS Telecommunications 
University at Albany 
1400 Washington Ave 
Albany, NY 1 
(518) 437-3803 


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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-02 Thread Garry Peirce
Hi Tom,

As we are a public institution, we feel it's desirable to provide a level of
public network access.

We have been trialing such an (unfunded) service for while now using
existing equipment/resources.

 

A Cisco shop, campus controllers have the open SSID tied to a mobility
tunnel configured to a central 'guest' controller where all traffic is
passed through  CIPA-compliant content filtering,  some specific filtering,
logging, and is bw-limited on a per-host basis.

As the traffic does utilize university resources, the service is at our
control to operate (filter/log/disable) as we feel necessary.

 

Being open, it is simpler for the community/conference attendees/contractors
to connect to which eliminates the need for maintaining special/one-off IDs
and as importantly helps dissuade such clients from acquiring access by
other means through local contacts.

 

 

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[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Neiss, Tom
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:02 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

 

Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus?

How are you dealing with CALEA if you are?

Do you use your edu address?

Thanks,

 

Thomas R. Neiss

Director of ITS Telecommunications

University at Albany

1400 Washington Ave

Albany, NY 1

(518) 437-3803

 

 

 

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-02 Thread Trent Fierro
Out of curiosity regarding CALEA, do you need to provide law enforcement with a 
way to view where a user goes on your network while using wireless? Or do you 
just need to provide login details? I know that for telephony that you need to 
provide a way to tap a line, etc. but haven’t paid much attention to CALEA 
requirements recently.

 

Trent

 

 

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Dir of Marketing
408.748.0902  x116

www.avendasys.com

http://twitter.com/Avenda_Systems

 

Security without Boundaries

 

 

 

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[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Eklund
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:10 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

 

We provide free guest access, but not open access.  Guests must be vouched for 
by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the 
actions of the guest while they use the network.  We have a simple online 
process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and 
password for their guest.  They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID 
can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week.  After that time the ID is 
deleted.

--
Daniel Eklund
Director, Networking
Wayne State University
313-577-5558


- Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu wrote: 
 

Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus?

How are you dealing with CALEA if you are?

Do you use your edu address?

Thanks,

 

Thomas R. Neiss

Director of ITS Telecommunications

University at Albany

1400 Washington Ave

Albany, NY 1

(518) 437-3803

 

 

 

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-02 Thread Daniel Eklund
We don't provide telephony services over our IP network 

-- 
Daniel Eklund 
Director, Networking 
Wayne State University 
313-577-5558 


- Trent Fierro tr...@avendasys.com wrote: 
 
 

Out of curiosity regarding CALEA, do you need to provide law enforcement with a 
way to view where a user goes on your network while using wireless? Or do you 
just need to provide login details? I know that for telephony that you need to 
provide a way to tap a line, etc. but haven’t paid much attention to CALEA 
requirements recently. 



Trent 





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 Dir of Marketing 
 408.748.0902 x116 

www.avendasys.com 

http://twitter.com/Avenda_Systems 



Security without Boundaries 







 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Eklund 
 Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:10 AM 
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions 




We provide free guest access, but not open access. Guests must be vouched for 
by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the 
actions of the guest while they use the network. We have a simple online 
process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and 
password for their guest. They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID 
can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week. After that time the ID is 
deleted. 
 
 -- 
 Daniel Eklund 
 Director, Networking 
 Wayne State University 
 313-577-5558 
 
 
 - Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu wrote: 
  


Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus? 


How are you dealing with CALEA if you are? 


Do you use your edu address? 


Thanks, 





Thomas R. Neiss 


Director of ITS Telecommunications 


University at Albany 


1400 Washington Ave 


Albany, NY 1 


(518) 437-3803 










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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-02 Thread Nik Kumar
We also will be implementing this same type of service on our free guest access 
using Bradford network (Network Access Control) very soon.

A staff member will have to vouch for a guest. We will also be limiting users 
to web browsing only.

 

 

Nik Kumar

University of the Pacific

 

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[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Eklund
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:10 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

 

We provide free guest access, but not open access.  Guests must be vouched for 
by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the 
actions of the guest while they use the network.  We have a simple online 
process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and 
password for their guest.  They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID 
can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week.  After that time the ID is 
deleted.

--
Daniel Eklund
Director, Networking
Wayne State University
313-577-5558


- Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu wrote: 
 

Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus?

How are you dealing with CALEA if you are?

Do you use your edu address?

Thanks,

 

Thomas R. Neiss

Director of ITS Telecommunications

University at Albany

1400 Washington Ave

Albany, NY 1

(518) 437-3803

 

 

 

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-02 Thread Peter P Morrissey
The CA in CALEA stands for “Computer Access.” We interpret that to mean 
providing a way for them to tap into our network to access any network traffic. 
Our understanding is that if you do your best to provide that and cooperate, it 
isn’t a big deal. We also track IP to user mappings for lots of reasons, that 
we could certainly make available under the correct legal proceedings.

Peter Morrissey


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Trent Fierro
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:23 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

Out of curiosity regarding CALEA, do you need to provide law enforcement with a 
way to view where a user goes on your network while using wireless? Or do you 
just need to provide login details? I know that for telephony that you need to 
provide a way to tap a line, etc. but haven’t paid much attention to CALEA 
requirements recently.

Trent


Trent Fierro
Dir of Marketing
408.748.0902  x116
www.avendasys.com
http://twitter.com/Avenda_Systems

Security without Boundaries



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Eklund
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:10 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

We provide free guest access, but not open access.  Guests must be vouched for 
by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the 
actions of the guest while they use the network.  We have a simple online 
process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and 
password for their guest.  They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID 
can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week.  After that time the ID is 
deleted.

--
Daniel Eklund
Director, Networking
Wayne State University
313-577-5558


- Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu wrote:

Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus?
How are you dealing with CALEA if you are?
Do you use your edu address?
Thanks,

Thomas R. Neiss
Director of ITS Telecommunications
University at Albany
1400 Washington Ave
Albany, NY 1
(518) 437-3803



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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-02 Thread Peter P Morrissey
At least not intentionally. : )
Peter Morrissey


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Eklund
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:47 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

We don't provide telephony services over our IP network

--
Daniel Eklund
Director, Networking
Wayne State University
313-577-5558


- Trent Fierro tr...@avendasys.com wrote:


Out of curiosity regarding CALEA, do you need to provide law enforcement with a 
way to view where a user goes on your network while using wireless? Or do you 
just need to provide login details? I know that for telephony that you need to 
provide a way to tap a line, etc. but haven’t paid much attention to CALEA 
requirements recently.

Trent


Trent Fierro
 Dir of Marketing
 408.748.0902  x116
www.avendasys.com
http://twitter.com/Avenda_Systems

Security without Boundaries




From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Eklund
 Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:10 AM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

We provide free guest access, but not open access.  Guests must be vouched for 
by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the 
actions of the guest while they use the network.  We have a simple online 
process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and 
password for their guest.  They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID 
can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week.  After that time the ID is 
deleted.

 --
 Daniel Eklund
 Director, Networking
 Wayne State University
 313-577-5558


 - Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu wrote:
 
Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus?
How are you dealing with CALEA if you are?
Do you use your edu address?
Thanks,

Thomas R. Neiss
Director of ITS Telecommunications
University at Albany
1400 Washington Ave
Albany, NY 1
(518) 437-3803



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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-02 Thread Neiss, Tom
Sorry it is the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act.
tn

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:08 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

The CA in CALEA stands for “Computer Access.” We interpret that to mean 
providing a way for them to tap into our network to access any network traffic. 
Our understanding is that if you do your best to provide that and cooperate, it 
isn’t a big deal. We also track IP to user mappings for lots of reasons, that 
we could certainly make available under the correct legal proceedings.

Peter Morrissey


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Trent Fierro
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:23 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

Out of curiosity regarding CALEA, do you need to provide law enforcement with a 
way to view where a user goes on your network while using wireless? Or do you 
just need to provide login details? I know that for telephony that you need to 
provide a way to tap a line, etc. but haven’t paid much attention to CALEA 
requirements recently.

Trent


Trent Fierro
Dir of Marketing
408.748.0902  x116
www.avendasys.com
http://twitter.com/Avenda_Systems

Security without Boundaries



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Eklund
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:10 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

We provide free guest access, but not open access.  Guests must be vouched for 
by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the 
actions of the guest while they use the network.  We have a simple online 
process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and 
password for their guest.  They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID 
can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week.  After that time the ID is 
deleted.

--
Daniel Eklund
Director, Networking
Wayne State University
313-577-5558


- Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu wrote:

Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus?
How are you dealing with CALEA if you are?
Do you use your edu address?
Thanks,

Thomas R. Neiss
Director of ITS Telecommunications
University at Albany
1400 Washington Ave
Albany, NY 1
(518) 437-3803



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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-02 Thread Peter P Morrissey
Oops. Good catch Tom. Thank you.
Substitute assistance for access in my last statement.
Pete


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Neiss, Tom
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:12 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

Sorry it is the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act.
tn

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:08 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

The CA in CALEA stands for “Computer Access.” We interpret that to mean 
providing a way for them to tap into our network to access any network traffic. 
Our understanding is that if you do your best to provide that and cooperate, it 
isn’t a big deal. We also track IP to user mappings for lots of reasons, that 
we could certainly make available under the correct legal proceedings.

Peter Morrissey


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Trent Fierro
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:23 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

Out of curiosity regarding CALEA, do you need to provide law enforcement with a 
way to view where a user goes on your network while using wireless? Or do you 
just need to provide login details? I know that for telephony that you need to 
provide a way to tap a line, etc. but haven’t paid much attention to CALEA 
requirements recently.

Trent


Trent Fierro
Dir of Marketing
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Eklund
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:10 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

We provide free guest access, but not open access.  Guests must be vouched for 
by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the 
actions of the guest while they use the network.  We have a simple online 
process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and 
password for their guest.  They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID 
can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week.  After that time the ID is 
deleted.

--
Daniel Eklund
Director, Networking
Wayne State University
313-577-5558


- Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu wrote:

Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus?
How are you dealing with CALEA if you are?
Do you use your edu address?
Thanks,

Thomas R. Neiss
Director of ITS Telecommunications
University at Albany
1400 Washington Ave
Albany, NY 1
(518) 437-3803



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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

2010-07-02 Thread Trent Fierro
 

Thanks Tom. When I was at Cisco 6 years ago it was Communications Assistance, 
so glad to see that the acronym hasn’t changed…

We currently have one customer (U of San Diego) that charges for guest access 
and a couple more that are considering it due to budget cuts, loss of long 
distance revenue, etc.. USD wanted to keep the students off of the guest 
network, so payment solved that. Adding a landing page for guests now lets them 
track “real names” on the network because the guest needs to enter credit card 
info or a promo code that was given to them by a sponsor. The automation also 
made it easy for IT to support all of the summer time camp visitors (over 10K 
users).

 

Peter, thanks for mentioning how you use authentication data/logs for CALEA.

 

Trent

 

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Neiss, Tom
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:12 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

 

Sorry it is the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act.

tn

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:08 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

 

The CA in CALEA stands for “Computer Access.” We interpret that to mean 
providing a way for them to tap into our network to access any network traffic. 
Our understanding is that if you do your best to provide that and cooperate, it 
isn’t a big deal. We also track IP to user mappings for lots of reasons, that 
we could certainly make available under the correct legal proceedings.

 

Peter Morrissey

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Trent Fierro
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:23 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

 

Out of curiosity regarding CALEA, do you need to provide law enforcement with a 
way to view where a user goes on your network while using wireless? Or do you 
just need to provide login details? I know that for telephony that you need to 
provide a way to tap a line, etc. but haven’t paid much attention to CALEA 
requirements recently.

 

Trent

 

 

Trent Fierro
Dir of Marketing
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Eklund
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:10 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

 

We provide free guest access, but not open access.  Guests must be vouched for 
by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the 
actions of the guest while they use the network.  We have a simple online 
process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and 
password for their guest.  They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID 
can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week.  After that time the ID is 
deleted.

--
Daniel Eklund
Director, Networking
Wayne State University
313-577-5558


- Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu wrote: 
 

Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus?

How are you dealing with CALEA if you are?

Do you use your edu address?

Thanks,

 

Thomas R. Neiss

Director of ITS Telecommunications

University at Albany

1400 Washington Ave

Albany, NY 1

(518) 437-3803

 

 

 

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