Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPad spontaneous reboots?

2011-03-16 Thread Matthew Gracie
On 03/15/2011 06:59 PM, Lee H Badman wrote:

 It's always fun when toy-quality wireless devices hit the enterprise WLAN (he 
 said rather sarcastically).

*cough* Kindles *cough*

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPad spontaneous reboots?

2011-03-15 Thread Paul Nelson
We had this problem with a few of our WAN sites.  We did not figure out the
problem as oppose to a temp fix.  We found that when the following
conditions existed, the iPads would reboot.

- iPads had to be on version 4.2
- WiSM code 6.0.188.0
- VPN involved

I moved the WAN ap's over to older code (MESH code 4.2.176.51M) and this
fixed the problem.

We have plenty of iPads that were on the 4.2 iOS and the 6.0 code on campus
(no VPN involved) and did not have any problems.

I have not been to the WAN sites since the 4.3 iOS came out so I have not
been able to check and see if it resolved any problems.


Paul Nelson
University of West Florida


On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Peter P Morrissey ppmor...@syr.edu wrote:

 Has anyone heard about iPads suddenly rebooting on their own?

 We are hearing reports of this, and of course they are connected to our
 network when it is happening, so it is the network causing it.

 Just wondering if anyone else has heard this.



 Thanks,

 Pete Morrissey

 Syracuse University


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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPad spontaneous reboots?

2011-03-15 Thread Lee H Badman
There are lots of discussions like this online: 
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2599544 where it happens with 
enterprise and home networks alike. 

in our case Apple didn't hesitate to tell us to go to 4.3. I was in the same 
location witha  pre-4.3 iPad for almost 24 hours and couldn't get the condition 
to repeat on our standards-based WLAN, nor did it happen again to the users 
that initially complained.

It's always fun when toy-quality wireless devices hit the enterprise WLAN (he 
said rather sarcastically).

I do know that I would have a very hard time justifying making network changes 
to an otherwise stable enterprise WLAN when the only devices to have problems 
out of thousands of clients are a few iPads and iPhones.

Cheers-

Lee Badman

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[WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson [pnel...@uwf.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:09 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPad spontaneous reboots?

We had this problem with a few of our WAN sites.  We did not figure out the 
problem as oppose to a temp fix.  We found that when the following conditions 
existed, the iPads would reboot.

- iPads had to be on version 4.2
- WiSM code 6.0.188.0
- VPN involved

I moved the WAN ap's over to older code (MESH code 4.2.176.51M) and this fixed 
the problem.

We have plenty of iPads that were on the 4.2 iOS and the 6.0 code on campus (no 
VPN involved) and did not have any problems.

I have not been to the WAN sites since the 4.3 iOS came out so I have not been 
able to check and see if it resolved any problems.


Paul Nelson
University of West Florida


On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Peter P Morrissey 
ppmor...@syr.edumailto:ppmor...@syr.edu wrote:
Has anyone heard about iPads suddenly rebooting on their own?
We are hearing reports of this, and of course they are connected to our network 
when it is happening, so it is the network causing it.
Just wondering if anyone else has heard this.

Thanks,
Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPad spontaneous reboots?

2011-03-11 Thread Barron Hulver
I haven't heard about about any iPads rebooting due to wireless, but I 
have two thoughts:



1) Is it rebooting periodically?  If so, is it really just disconnecting 
from the wireless network periodically?  (Google wireless disconnects 
after 30 minutes and you will find quite a few hits).  One of my 
people, Nathan Broome, found that we had a client disconnect parameter 
set to 30 minutes.  This setting was probably just carried forward from 
a Cisco default setting from many years ago.  You can disable the 
setting in the Cisco Wireless LAN Controller by going to WLANs - WLAN 
ID - Advanced and unchecking Enable Session Timeout.


2) Set up a non-broadcast SSID on another subnet and have one of the 
people who have the problem use this SSID.  This might help to determine 
if the problem is with RF interference or some network traffic that is 
taking out the iPad.  If the iPad is rebooting due to traffic then you 
could set up a continuous packet capture and try to find the packet that 
is taking out the iPad.  I worked with my staff to set up a 
non-broadcast SSID here and I find it useful now and then.


Barron

Barron Hulver
Director of Networking, Operations, and Systems
Center for Information Technology
Oberlin College
148 West College Street
Oberlin, OH  44074
440-775-8798
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Has anyone heard about iPads suddenly rebooting on their own?

We are hearing reports of this, and of course they are connected to 
our network when it is happening, so it is the network causing it.


Just wondering if anyone else has heard this.


Thanks,

Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPad spontaneous reboots?

2011-03-10 Thread Reynolds, Walter
Have not heard of this happening here.  We have mostly Meru and some legacy 
Cisco.
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University of Michigan

On Mar 10, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Peter P Morrissey 
ppmor...@syr.edumailto:ppmor...@syr.edu wrote:

Has anyone heard about iPads suddenly rebooting on their own?
We are hearing reports of this, and of course they are connected to our network 
when it is happening, so it is the network causing it.
Just wondering if anyone else has heard this.

Thanks,
Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPad spontaneous reboots?

2011-03-10 Thread Lee H Badman
One add- these are 3G/Wi-Fi models, actually with both radios on- in the NYC 
area, if that makes any difference.



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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iPad spontaneous reboots?

Have not heard of this happening here.  We have mostly Meru and some legacy 
Cisco.
--
Walt Reynolds
University of Michigan

On Mar 10, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Peter P Morrissey 
ppmor...@syr.edumailto:ppmor...@syr.edu wrote:
Has anyone heard about iPads suddenly rebooting on their own?
We are hearing reports of this, and of course they are connected to our network 
when it is happening, so it is the network causing it.
Just wondering if anyone else has heard this.

Thanks,
Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University

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