RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested before adding all wireless auth?

2021-08-04 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
As a point of reference, if you are cloud-based and have deployed Microsoft’s 
AADDS (Azure Active Directory Domain Services), the architecture model for that 
service puts a LB in front of the DCs to assist with service scale out, 
including replica sets across geographic regions.

One could accomplish this within each individual service, but as the number of 
services increases, there is a point where hiding that complexity behind a LB 
makes the management a bit easier including DR/business continuity.

Jeff

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested 
before adding all wireless auth?

Spurgeon

We tend to load balance a whole bunch of things, but I would really be 
concerned about load balancing AD servers because the VS would itself add some 
latency. Not saying it wouldn’t work, just my own experience.
I would rather rely on dedicating AD servers to some “site” and use the “site” 
as a way to establish a pecking order. So the stuff that’s crucial (ex: Auth) 
would be tied to a “critical” site, and thus be served first.

Also, I would strongly suggest that the groups which are whitelisted and added 
are not too large. They are only what the ISE server has to use to lookup 
users. With ISE the AD connector can deal with not being everywhere, make good 
use of it. ACS 5 didn’t have that capability and thus was real slow, esp. since 
it had to browse the whole thing.

And remember, ad_agent.log  is your friend, if it whines, there’s a problem.

Manon Lessard
Chargée de programmation et d’analyse
CCNP, CWNE #275, AWA 10, ESCE Design
Direction des technologies de l'information
Pavillon Louis-Jacques-Casault
1055, avenue du Séminaire
Bureau 0403
Université Laval, Québec (Québec)
G1V 0A6, Canada
418 656-2131, poste 412853
Télécopieur : 418 656-7305
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested 
before adding all wireless auth?

I have no answer for dev testing of AD performance. However, I do have some 
links to Cisco info on ISE scaling and deployment that I saved for future ref. 
Here they are in case they may be of use:

  1.  “2019 How Cisco Deployed ISE”
https://www.ciscolive.com/global/on-demand-library.html?search=dgtl-brkcoc%20ise=dgtl-brkcoc+ise#/session/1573153539632001Je9Y<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ciscolive.com%2Fglobal%2Fon-demand-library.html%3Fsearch%3Ddgtl-brkcoc%2520ise%26search%3Ddgtl-brkcoc%2Bise%23%2Fsession%2F1573153539632001Je9Y=04%7C01%7CManon.lessard%40DTI.ULAVAL.CA%7C2509c8c5966844daa50308d956952692%7C56778bd56a3f4bd3a26593163e4d5bfe%7C1%7C0%7C637636020861798598%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=I7dKiPqW%2BGvp2Txw61qGv2bZB0Ao%2BTgGdTxRqr3CnmU%3D=0>
  2.  2018 – “Designing ISE for Scale and High Availability”
https://www.ciscolive.com/global/on-demand-library.html?search=dgtl-brkcoc%20ise=dgtl-brkcoc+ise#/session/1500302030233001WuLd<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ciscolive.com%2Fglobal%2Fon-demand-library.html%3Fsearch%3Ddgtl-brkcoc%2520ise%26search%3Ddgtl-brkcoc%2Bise%23%2Fsession%2F1500302030233001WuLd=04%7C01%7CManon.lessard%40DTI.ULAVAL.CA%7C2509c8c5966844daa50308d956952692%7C56778bd56a3f4bd3a26593163e4d5bfe%7C1%7C0%7C637636020861798598%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=YKk08o0gYMqDBj0V5nWpigOv0D9ocp8LdzGpTJRD%2FgQ%3D=0>
  3.  “ISE Peformance and Scale” community doc with current updates:
https://community.cisco.com/t5/security-documents/ise-performance-amp-scale/ta-p/3642148<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.cisco.com%2Ft5%2Fsecurity-documents%2Fise-performance-amp-scale%2Fta-p%2F3642148=04%7C01%7CManon.lessard%40DTI.ULAVAL.CA%7C2509c8c5966844daa50308d956952692%7C56778bd56a3f4bd3a26593163e4d5bfe%7C1%7C0%7C637636020861808552%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=4Oox0mj%2FaNaSs8

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested before adding all wireless auth?

2021-08-03 Thread Joseph Bernard
We are currently running 2.7 but have 3.0 on a test box.  One of my coworkers 
had made some graphs for info ISE provides about latency, but we are still 
learning to read them to figure out what might be “normal”.

Thanks,
Joseph B.

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 on behalf of Manon Lessard 

Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 11:26 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested 
before adding all wireless auth?

Joseph,


Which version of ISE?
Unlike ACS, ISE can use a whitelist to check only domains which you want it to 
look and such.
There are several dashboards on the AD side that will let you know the latency, 
and reports in ISE as well as to how long it takes to fetch a user.
And using Cacti or other monitoring tools you could also check your latency and 
graph it.


Manon Lessard
Chargée de programmation et d’analyse
CCNP, CWNE #275, AWA 10, ESCE Design
Direction des technologies de l'information
Pavillon Louis-Jacques-Casault
1055, avenue du Séminaire
Bureau 0403
Université Laval, Québec (Québec)
G1V 0A6, Canada
418 656-2131, poste 412853
Télécopieur : 418 656-7305
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 10:49 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested before 
adding all wireless auth?

So we are running ISE which is backended by Active Directory.  We have been 
adding sections of campus to wireless authentication of eduroam and things 
seemed fine with no issues that we could see.  When we finally added the last 
bit of our environment on Friday, this were going great but then Monday 
happened and all hell broke loose and authentication went in the toilet.  It 
seemed that ISE couldn’t get answers from AD fast enough and switched to our DR 
site which made things WAY worse and we had to move all our stuff back to our 
previous platform.  Since that incident, we have tweaked all the settings we 
can find from minimizing DNS lookups to hiding the DR site from ISE.  AD is 
kind of a black box, so there is only so much we see or find documentation for.

My question is, is there a way to test if our AD backend if strong enough to 
handle our campus of 20,000 wireless devices moving around during a class 
change without putting it in production first and crossing our fingers?


Thanks,
Joseph Bernard


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested before adding all wireless auth?

2021-08-03 Thread Joseph Bernard
I’ve read all those many times, and unfortunately they are great at helping you 
to expand ISE but not what feeds it.  We have done several things, though, 
mentioned in those documents since our incent.

Thanks,
Joseph B.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 on behalf of "Spurgeon, Charles E" 

Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 11:41 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested 
before adding all wireless auth?

I have no answer for dev testing of AD performance. However, I do have some 
links to Cisco info on ISE scaling and deployment that I saved for future ref. 
Here they are in case they may be of use:

  1.  “2019 How Cisco Deployed ISE”
https://www.ciscolive.com/global/on-demand-library.html?search=dgtl-brkcoc%20ise=dgtl-brkcoc+ise#/session/1573153539632001Je9Y
  2.  2018 – “Designing ISE for Scale and High Availability”
https://www.ciscolive.com/global/on-demand-library.html?search=dgtl-brkcoc%20ise=dgtl-brkcoc+ise#/session/1500302030233001WuLd
  3.  “ISE Peformance and Scale” community doc with current updates:
https://community.cisco.com/t5/security-documents/ise-performance-amp-scale/ta-p/3642148

FWIW, I recall hearing somewhere (probably a CiscoLive Online preso) that the 
ISE-AD config on the Cisco enterprise network used multiple secondary AD 
servers behind a load balancer (IIRC) to avoid direct connections between ISE 
and primary AD servers since the primary servers could get busy or hung and 
freeze up ISE (so to speak). That’s second hand info from memory, so you would 
definitely want to verify that with Cisco.


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Joseph Bernard
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 9:49 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested before 
adding all wireless auth?

So we are running ISE which is backended by Active Directory.  We have been 
adding sections of campus to wireless authentication of eduroam and things 
seemed fine with no issues that we could see.  When we finally added the last 
bit of our environment on Friday, this were going great but then Monday 
happened and all hell broke loose and authentication went in the toilet.  It 
seemed that ISE couldn’t get answers from AD fast enough and switched to our DR 
site which made things WAY worse and we had to move all our stuff back to our 
previous platform.  Since that incident, we have tweaked all the settings we 
can find from minimizing DNS lookups to hiding the DR site from ISE.  AD is 
kind of a black box, so there is only so much we see or find documentation for.

My question is, is there a way to test if our AD backend if strong enough to 
handle our campus of 20,000 wireless devices moving around during a class 
change without putting it in production first and crossing our fingers?


Thanks,
Joseph Bernard


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested before adding all wireless auth?

2021-08-03 Thread Manon Lessard
Spurgeon

We tend to load balance a whole bunch of things, but I would really be 
concerned about load balancing AD servers because the VS would itself add some 
latency. Not saying it wouldn’t work, just my own experience.
I would rather rely on dedicating AD servers to some “site” and use the “site” 
as a way to establish a pecking order. So the stuff that’s crucial (ex: Auth) 
would be tied to a “critical” site, and thus be served first.

Also, I would strongly suggest that the groups which are whitelisted and added 
are not too large. They are only what the ISE server has to use to lookup 
users. With ISE the AD connector can deal with not being everywhere, make good 
use of it. ACS 5 didn’t have that capability and thus was real slow, esp. since 
it had to browse the whole thing.

And remember, ad_agent.log  is your friend, if it whines, there’s a problem.

Manon Lessard
Chargée de programmation et d’analyse
CCNP, CWNE #275, AWA 10, ESCE Design
Direction des technologies de l'information
Pavillon Louis-Jacques-Casault
1055, avenue du Séminaire
Bureau 0403
Université Laval, Québec (Québec)
G1V 0A6, Canada
418 656-2131, poste 412853
Télécopieur : 418 656-7305
manon.less...@dti.ulaval.ca<mailto:manon.less...@dti.ulaval.ca>
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 on behalf of "Spurgeon, Charles E" 

Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 11:41 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested 
before adding all wireless auth?

I have no answer for dev testing of AD performance. However, I do have some 
links to Cisco info on ISE scaling and deployment that I saved for future ref. 
Here they are in case they may be of use:

  1.  “2019 How Cisco Deployed ISE”
https://www.ciscolive.com/global/on-demand-library.html?search=dgtl-brkcoc%20ise=dgtl-brkcoc+ise#/session/1573153539632001Je9Y<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ciscolive.com%2Fglobal%2Fon-demand-library.html%3Fsearch%3Ddgtl-brkcoc%2520ise%26search%3Ddgtl-brkcoc%2Bise%23%2Fsession%2F1573153539632001Je9Y=04%7C01%7CManon.lessard%40DTI.ULAVAL.CA%7C2509c8c5966844daa50308d956952692%7C56778bd56a3f4bd3a26593163e4d5bfe%7C1%7C0%7C637636020861798598%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=I7dKiPqW%2BGvp2Txw61qGv2bZB0Ao%2BTgGdTxRqr3CnmU%3D=0>
  2.  2018 – “Designing ISE for Scale and High Availability”
https://www.ciscolive.com/global/on-demand-library.html?search=dgtl-brkcoc%20ise=dgtl-brkcoc+ise#/session/1500302030233001WuLd<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ciscolive.com%2Fglobal%2Fon-demand-library.html%3Fsearch%3Ddgtl-brkcoc%2520ise%26search%3Ddgtl-brkcoc%2Bise%23%2Fsession%2F1500302030233001WuLd=04%7C01%7CManon.lessard%40DTI.ULAVAL.CA%7C2509c8c5966844daa50308d956952692%7C56778bd56a3f4bd3a26593163e4d5bfe%7C1%7C0%7C637636020861798598%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=YKk08o0gYMqDBj0V5nWpigOv0D9ocp8LdzGpTJRD%2FgQ%3D=0>
  3.  “ISE Peformance and Scale” community doc with current updates:
https://community.cisco.com/t5/security-documents/ise-performance-amp-scale/ta-p/3642148<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.cisco.com%2Ft5%2Fsecurity-documents%2Fise-performance-amp-scale%2Fta-p%2F3642148=04%7C01%7CManon.lessard%40DTI.ULAVAL.CA%7C2509c8c5966844daa50308d956952692%7C56778bd56a3f4bd3a26593163e4d5bfe%7C1%7C0%7C637636020861808552%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=4Oox0mj%2FaNaSs8pardKqLmiEy%2Bxjuw7yOOsF%2BsP8dnI%3D=0>

FWIW, I recall hearing somewhere (probably a CiscoLive Online preso) that the 
ISE-AD config on the Cisco enterprise network used multiple secondary AD 
servers behind a load balancer (IIRC) to avoid direct connections between ISE 
and primary AD servers since the primary servers could get busy or hung and 
freeze up ISE (so to speak). That’s second hand info from memory, so you would 
definitely want to verify that with Cisco.


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Joseph Bernard
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 9:49 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested before 
adding all wireless auth?

So we are running ISE which is backended by Active Directory.  We have been 
adding sections of campus to wireless authentication of eduroam and things 
seemed fine with no issues that we could see.  When we finally added the last 
bit of our environment on Friday, this were going 

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested before adding all wireless auth?

2021-08-03 Thread Spurgeon, Charles E
I have no answer for dev testing of AD performance. However, I do have some 
links to Cisco info on ISE scaling and deployment that I saved for future ref. 
Here they are in case they may be of use:

  1.  “2019 How Cisco Deployed ISE”
https://www.ciscolive.com/global/on-demand-library.html?search=dgtl-brkcoc%20ise=dgtl-brkcoc+ise#/session/1573153539632001Je9Y
  2.  2018 – “Designing ISE for Scale and High Availability”
https://www.ciscolive.com/global/on-demand-library.html?search=dgtl-brkcoc%20ise=dgtl-brkcoc+ise#/session/1500302030233001WuLd
  3.  “ISE Peformance and Scale” community doc with current updates:
https://community.cisco.com/t5/security-documents/ise-performance-amp-scale/ta-p/3642148

FWIW, I recall hearing somewhere (probably a CiscoLive Online preso) that the 
ISE-AD config on the Cisco enterprise network used multiple secondary AD 
servers behind a load balancer (IIRC) to avoid direct connections between ISE 
and primary AD servers since the primary servers could get busy or hung and 
freeze up ISE (so to speak). That’s second hand info from memory, so you would 
definitely want to verify that with Cisco.


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Joseph Bernard
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 9:49 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested before 
adding all wireless auth?

So we are running ISE which is backended by Active Directory.  We have been 
adding sections of campus to wireless authentication of eduroam and things 
seemed fine with no issues that we could see.  When we finally added the last 
bit of our environment on Friday, this were going great but then Monday 
happened and all hell broke loose and authentication went in the toilet.  It 
seemed that ISE couldn’t get answers from AD fast enough and switched to our DR 
site which made things WAY worse and we had to move all our stuff back to our 
previous platform.  Since that incident, we have tweaked all the settings we 
can find from minimizing DNS lookups to hiding the DR site from ISE.  AD is 
kind of a black box, so there is only so much we see or find documentation for.

My question is, is there a way to test if our AD backend if strong enough to 
handle our campus of 20,000 wireless devices moving around during a class 
change without putting it in production first and crossing our fingers?


Thanks,
Joseph Bernard


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested before adding all wireless auth?

2021-08-03 Thread Manon Lessard
Joseph,


Which version of ISE?
Unlike ACS, ISE can use a whitelist to check only domains which you want it to 
look and such.
There are several dashboards on the AD side that will let you know the latency, 
and reports in ISE as well as to how long it takes to fetch a user.
And using Cacti or other monitoring tools you could also check your latency and 
graph it.


Manon Lessard
Chargée de programmation et d’analyse
CCNP, CWNE #275, AWA 10, ESCE Design
Direction des technologies de l'information
Pavillon Louis-Jacques-Casault
1055, avenue du Séminaire
Bureau 0403
Université Laval, Québec (Québec)
G1V 0A6, Canada
418 656-2131, poste 412853
Télécopieur : 418 656-7305
manon.less...@dti.ulaval.ca<mailto:manon.less...@dti.ulaval.ca>
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 10:49 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested before 
adding all wireless auth?

So we are running ISE which is backended by Active Directory.  We have been 
adding sections of campus to wireless authentication of eduroam and things 
seemed fine with no issues that we could see.  When we finally added the last 
bit of our environment on Friday, this were going great but then Monday 
happened and all hell broke loose and authentication went in the toilet.  It 
seemed that ISE couldn’t get answers from AD fast enough and switched to our DR 
site which made things WAY worse and we had to move all our stuff back to our 
previous platform.  Since that incident, we have tweaked all the settings we 
can find from minimizing DNS lookups to hiding the DR site from ISE.  AD is 
kind of a black box, so there is only so much we see or find documentation for.

My question is, is there a way to test if our AD backend if strong enough to 
handle our campus of 20,000 wireless devices moving around during a class 
change without putting it in production first and crossing our fingers?


Thanks,
Joseph Bernard


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can Active Directory backend for ISE be tested before adding all wireless auth?

2021-08-03 Thread Joseph Bernard
So we are running ISE which is backended by Active Directory.  We have been 
adding sections of campus to wireless authentication of eduroam and things 
seemed fine with no issues that we could see.  When we finally added the last 
bit of our environment on Friday, this were going great but then Monday 
happened and all hell broke loose and authentication went in the toilet.  It 
seemed that ISE couldn’t get answers from AD fast enough and switched to our DR 
site which made things WAY worse and we had to move all our stuff back to our 
previous platform.  Since that incident, we have tweaked all the settings we 
can find from minimizing DNS lookups to hiding the DR site from ISE.  AD is 
kind of a black box, so there is only so much we see or find documentation for.

My question is, is there a way to test if our AD backend if strong enough to 
handle our campus of 20,000 wireless devices moving around during a class 
change without putting it in production first and crossing our fingers?


Thanks,
Joseph Bernard


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