RE: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT
Well, certainly not Wifi that you could deploy in the US without the FCC getting a bit interested in it ;) There are microwave bridges running in the 5.8ghz range that can run 80-100 km available commercially. However, this requires line of sight, and does not use the 802.11 standard. I just wanted Gabriel to see the maximum anyone had successfully attempted. I believe Gabriel's first post was looking to cover a 450 - 500 km distance, which is unfortunately not possible within 802.11 Does anyone know of any projects using WiMax (802.16) yet to start some distance records with that technology? [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ From: Malcolm Cartledge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 3:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT Lets see... A 6 WATT power amplifier feeding a 2.4 meter dish (that's the area of FIVE king sized beds), not to mention a high altitude balloon, helium and all the launch gear, plus GPS tracking systems for the antennas and presumably clearance from government and military authorities to drift around at commercial air-space altitudes in a random direction. I make that an output of nearly 90dBm and a receive sensitivity of probably -140dBm. Allow, say 10dB noise margin and you have a mind blowing 220dB headroom to play with. Compared to a free space loss of 'only' 150dB for the 315Km link and you wonder just how far they COULD have gone. BUT... Can you still call that WI-FI? :-) >FYI > >Alvarion and Breeze set the Guiness world record for the longest WLAN >link at 310 km > >http://www.alvarion.com/RunTime/CorpInf_30130.asp?fuf=298&type=item > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT click here <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1296j5lr8/M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/ D=groups/S=1705644089:HM/EXP=1097169858/A=2376776/R=0/SIG=11ldm1jvc/*htt p://promotions.yahoo.com/ydomains2004/index.html> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2376776/rand=626206232> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/5AhqlB/TM ~-> *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT
Lets see... A 6 WATT power amplifier feeding a 2.4 meter dish (that's the area of FIVE king sized beds), not to mention a high altitude balloon, helium and all the launch gear, plus GPS tracking systems for the antennas and presumably clearance from government and military authorities to drift around at commercial air-space altitudes in a random direction. I make that an output of nearly 90dBm and a receive sensitivity of probably -140dBm. Allow, say 10dB noise margin and you have a mind blowing 220dB headroom to play with. Compared to a free space loss of 'only' 150dB for the 315Km link and you wonder just how far they COULD have gone. BUT... Can you still call that WI-FI? :-) >FYI > >Alvarion and Breeze set the Guiness world record for the longest WLAN >link at 310 km > >http://www.alvarion.com/RunTime/CorpInf_30130.asp?fuf=298&type=item > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/5AhqlB/TM ~-> *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT
Seth, Cool, all Syed needs is a stationary balloon at about 60,000 ft mid-range. ;-) Actually, we in Ham radio have gone much farther than that with low power 2 meter earth - balloon -earth voice communications. The record is 647 miles or 1041 Km. We should give it a try with WiFi some day. Channels 1-3 of 802.11b/g are in the Ham band. See: http://users.crosspaths.net/~wallio/RECORDS.htm 73. Larry K0ANI "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." --Albert Einstein _ From: Seth Goldhammer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT FYI Alvarion and Breeze set the Guiness world record for the longest WLAN link at 310 km http://www.alvarion.com/RunTime/CorpInf_30130.asp?fuf=298 <http://www.alvarion.com/RunTime/CorpInf_30130.asp?fuf=298&type=item> &type=item [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ From: Syed Ahsan Bukhari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT Dear it is not possible with Wireless LAN equipment u need following 1 VSAT 2 Fiber or u must get WAN nothing else is feasible and practical for this becasue u need alot of repeaters and they would not work for said distance waste of time and money --- shabnam sayed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > u need more than 100 repeaters to use any wireless > equipment for this task > and guess is this link economical > > yonk Tiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > try www.lintaslangit.com!!! > > gekorhi wrote:PLEASE I NEED TO COVER A LONG RANGE OF > ABOUT 450 - 500 KM TO LINK UP > WITH OUR SECOND OFFICE, TO SHARE A DATABASE. > > 1. WHAT EQUIPMENT DO I NEED TO HOOK UP AND EXTEND > THE LAN TO THE OTHER > OFFICE WITHOUT STRESS. > > NO MAST, NEEDED. > > PLEASE HELP ME OUT > > CHEERS > > > GABRIEL > > > > > > *** > Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum > http://www.wireless--lan.com/ > > Wireless LAN Search > http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 > > Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ > > http://www.azhttp.com/ > Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership > > http://www.science-fairs.com/ > Science Fairs > > > If you got this from someone else you can join at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT > > > - > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms of Service. > > > > > > - > Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! > Movies. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > *** > Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum > http://www.wireless--lan.com/ > > Wireless LAN Search > http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 > > Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ > > http://www.azhttp.com/ > Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership > > http://www.science-fairs.com/ > Science Fairs > > > If you got this from someone else you can join at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT
Gabriel, The combination of no mast and many links will probably give you very high latency and jitter along with many sources of outages and potential interference. Before you select a technology (VSAT, Landline or Terrestrial radio) you need to know what delays and packet losses will crash your application. VSAT has long delays so systems are built to spoof the TCP/IP windowing algorithm. Your application may not like that. It is typically okay in web page downloads if there is little Flash, graphics or video type content where large blocks of compressed data must be received with low error rates. A VPN solution is also needed if you want to keep your data secure. Since you own both ends of the link, secure key management is easy. If you use a SW/Server based solution have the manufacturer verify that they can do line rate encryption and keep stream straight. I have seen inexpensive firewalls collapse under heavy load of encryption and pass thru 5 to 20% of line speed when encrypting. The advantage of SW is Unix/Linux/other OS and cheap hardware. I like "real man" hardware encryption like HiFn chips or proprietary solutions. Some firms like Watchguard and others have hardware that will run at 1GE and above, so they know about the system issues. While at Wireless, Inc (now owned by Alvarian), Frank Massa (ex-DMC/Stratex, ex-Wireless, & ex-YDI) engineered a series of long range 6 GHz licensed links to run from New Orleans across the south to mid-Florida. Signals were distributes from each tower to the local area with unlicensed radios but the back-bone was licensed. He engineered many systems with mixes of unlicensed and licensed radios. I'm not going to propagate Frankie's email or cell number, you need to search him out. He splits his time between Silicon Valley and L.A. In the unlicensed bands you are limited by interference and maximum EIRP allowed. The EIRP limit leads to a transmitting antenna size limit to stay within the rules, typically a 2' dish or panel. As you increase the link carrying capacity you also loose range. If your radios are on a building top you will probably pick-up the local Internet Cafe signal levels above your long range link levels unless you buy a great antenna. You will also see reflections causing multi-path. Standard 802.11b has some other issues with long links. One trick is to separate the TX from the Rv antenna and use a higher gain, tighter pattern Rv antenna. There are other issues above 3 GHz with propagation characteristics you should know, like ducting and ground reflections. The Harris website and others have some downloadable tools you could look at. Typically you can fake out the EIRP and Frequency to match the band you desire. http://www.microwave.harris.com/systems/starlink/index.html Also Kirt Blattenberger's excellent site, RFCafe, has calculators for VSAT and Terrestrial links. http://www.rfcafe.com/references/calculator_links.htm Also the 802.11 standard protocols 802.11b has some other issues with long links, that is why you want to purchase PT-PT links or configure a PT-MPT into PT-PT mode. Definitely look into the alternatives in terms of service costs, QoS, Guaranteed vs. spot capacity and Up-Time. A two path solution may give you the best solution like landline to fiber backed up by radio. Good luck, Bill Kunz Principal Broadband Enterprises ex-HP, ex-Wireless, ex-CEL -Original Message- From: gekorhi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT PLEASE I NEED TO COVER A LONG RANGE OF ABOUT 450 - 500 KM TO LINK UP WITH OUR SECOND OFFICE, TO SHARE A DATABASE. 1. WHAT EQUIPMENT DO I NEED TO HOOK UP AND EXTEND THE LAN TO THE OTHER OFFICE WITHOUT STRESS. NO MAST, NEEDED. PLEASE HELP ME OUT CHEERS GABRIEL *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/5AhqlB/TM ~-> *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs -
RE: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT
FYI Alvarion and Breeze set the Guiness world record for the longest WLAN link at 310 km http://www.alvarion.com/RunTime/CorpInf_30130.asp?fuf=298&type=item [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ From: Syed Ahsan Bukhari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT Dear it is not possible with Wireless LAN equipment u need following 1 VSAT 2 Fiber or u must get WAN nothing else is feasible and practical for this becasue u need alot of repeaters and they would not work for said distance waste of time and money --- shabnam sayed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > u need more than 100 repeaters to use any wireless > equipment for this task > and guess is this link economical > > yonk Tiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > try www.lintaslangit.com!!! > > gekorhi wrote:PLEASE I NEED TO COVER A LONG RANGE OF > ABOUT 450 - 500 KM TO LINK UP > WITH OUR SECOND OFFICE, TO SHARE A DATABASE. > > 1. WHAT EQUIPMENT DO I NEED TO HOOK UP AND EXTEND > THE LAN TO THE OTHER > OFFICE WITHOUT STRESS. > > NO MAST, NEEDED. > > PLEASE HELP ME OUT > > CHEERS > > > GABRIEL > > > > > > *** > Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum > http://www.wireless--lan.com/ > > Wireless LAN Search > http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 > > Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ > > http://www.azhttp.com/ > Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership > > http://www.science-fairs.com/ > Science Fairs > > > If you got this from someone else you can join at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT > > > - > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms of Service. > > > > > > - > Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! > Movies. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > *** > Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum > http://www.wireless--lan.com/ > > Wireless LAN Search > http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 > > Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ > > http://www.azhttp.com/ > Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership > > http://www.science-fairs.com/ > Science Fairs > > > If you got this from someone else you can join at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT click here <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129cs68k2/M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/ D=groups/S=1705644089:HM/EXP=1096925018/A=2376776/R=0/SIG=11ldm1jvc/*htt p://promotions.yahoo.com/ydomains2004/index.html> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2376776/rand=585105984> _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this me
Re: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT
Dear it is not possible with Wireless LAN equipment u need following 1 VSAT 2 Fiber or u must get WAN nothing else is feasible and practical for this becasue u need alot of repeaters and they would not work for said distance waste of time and money --- shabnam sayed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > u need more than 100 repeaters to use any wireless > equipment for this task > and guess is this link economical > > yonk Tiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > try www.lintaslangit.com!!! > > gekorhi wrote:PLEASE I NEED TO COVER A LONG RANGE OF > ABOUT 450 - 500 KM TO LINK UP > WITH OUR SECOND OFFICE, TO SHARE A DATABASE. > > 1. WHAT EQUIPMENT DO I NEED TO HOOK UP AND EXTEND > THE LAN TO THE OTHER > OFFICE WITHOUT STRESS. > > NO MAST, NEEDED. > > PLEASE HELP ME OUT > > CHEERS > > > GABRIEL > > > > > > *** > Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum > http://www.wireless--lan.com/ > > Wireless LAN Search > http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 > > Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ > > http://www.azhttp.com/ > Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership > > http://www.science-fairs.com/ > Science Fairs > > > If you got this from someone else you can join at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT > > > - > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms of Service. > > > > > > - > Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! > Movies. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > *** > Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum > http://www.wireless--lan.com/ > > Wireless LAN Search > http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 > > Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ > > http://www.azhttp.com/ > Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership > > http://www.science-fairs.com/ > Science Fairs > > > If you got this from someone else you can join at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/5AhqlB/TM ~-> *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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u need more than 100 repeaters to use any wireless equipment for this task and guess is this link economical yonk Tiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: try www.lintaslangit.com!!! gekorhi wrote:PLEASE I NEED TO COVER A LONG RANGE OF ABOUT 450 - 500 KM TO LINK UP WITH OUR SECOND OFFICE, TO SHARE A DATABASE. 1. WHAT EQUIPMENT DO I NEED TO HOOK UP AND EXTEND THE LAN TO THE OTHER OFFICE WITHOUT STRESS. NO MAST, NEEDED. PLEASE HELP ME OUT CHEERS GABRIEL *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links - Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/5AhqlB/TM ~-> *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT
I think you've mistaken groups... In case you haven't noticed this is WIRELESS lan group which mean we don't have WIRES that you need in this case. Go for leased line or vsat and that's it.Do it before people here will advice you to build 30 or so WLAN repeaters along the way. ;-) Martin -Original Message- From: gekorhi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 6:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT PLEASE I NEED TO COVER A LONG RANGE OF ABOUT 450 - 500 KM TO LINK UP WITH OUR SECOND OFFICE, TO SHARE A DATABASE. 1. WHAT EQUIPMENT DO I NEED TO HOOK UP AND EXTEND THE LAN TO THE OTHER OFFICE WITHOUT STRESS. NO MAST, NEEDED. PLEASE HELP ME OUT CHEERS GABRIEL *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Startuj z INTERIA.PL... >>> http://link.interia.pl/f1834 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/5AhqlB/TM ~-> *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT
Hi, I think goin for a VSAT Connection or leased lines. with VPN configured will be ideal...coz i havent yet heard of anythin in wireless broadband with this much of coverage area... I will also like to know if there is anyother soln: thnx, - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/5AhqlB/TM ~-> *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT
That's almost impossible without many repeater locations in-between your talking big bucks 50,000$+... Whats wrong with a internet connection between the two? Ross - Original Message - From: gekorhi To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 9:33 AM Subject: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT PLEASE I NEED TO COVER A LONG RANGE OF ABOUT 450 - 500 KM TO LINK UP WITH OUR SECOND OFFICE, TO SHARE A DATABASE. 1. WHAT EQUIPMENT DO I NEED TO HOOK UP AND EXTEND THE LAN TO THE OTHER OFFICE WITHOUT STRESS. NO MAST, NEEDED. PLEASE HELP ME OUT CHEERS GABRIEL *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/5AhqlB/TM ~-> *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT
Dialup modem? > -Original Message- > From: gekorhi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT > > > PLEASE I NEED TO COVER A LONG RANGE OF ABOUT 450 - 500 KM TO LINK UP > WITH OUR SECOND OFFICE, TO SHARE A DATABASE. > > 1. WHAT EQUIPMENT DO I NEED TO HOOK UP AND EXTEND THE LAN TO THE OTHER > OFFICE WITHOUT STRESS. > > NO MAST, NEEDED. > > PLEASE HELP ME OUT > > CHEERS > > > GABRIEL Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/5AhqlB/TM ~-> *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [wirelesslan] RE: LONG RANGE LAN EQUIPMENT
try www.lintaslangit.com!!! gekorhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:PLEASE I NEED TO COVER A LONG RANGE OF ABOUT 450 - 500 KM TO LINK UP WITH OUR SECOND OFFICE, TO SHARE A DATABASE. 1. WHAT EQUIPMENT DO I NEED TO HOOK UP AND EXTEND THE LAN TO THE OTHER OFFICE WITHOUT STRESS. NO MAST, NEEDED. PLEASE HELP ME OUT CHEERS GABRIEL *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/5AhqlB/TM ~-> *** Wireless LAN Weblog - WLAN Forum http://www.wireless--lan.com/ Wireless LAN Search http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=6750665 Wireless LAN Jobs - WLAN Jobs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wlanjobs/ http://www.azhttp.com/ http://www.azhttp.com/";> Arizona High Tech Talent Partnership http://www.science-fairs.com/ http://www.science-fairs.com/";> Science Fairs If you got this from someone else you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
