Re: [Wireshark-dev] --without-gtk3 doesn't imply --with-qt

2014-12-01 Thread Jeff Morriss

On 11/29/14 05:44, Bálint Réczey wrote:

Hi Jeff,

2014-11-26 19:26 GMT+01:00 Jeff Morriss jeff.morriss...@gmail.com:

On 11/26/14 13:01, Stephen Fisher wrote:


Is there any reason a user would have both GTK3 and GTK2 installed and
not want to use GTK3 for wireshark-gtk builds?  We could simplify it to
be --with-gtk/--without-gtk and --with-qt/--without-qt and just use the
latest version of GTK on the system (3.x, if available, otherwise 2.x)
when requested.  The default could remain to make a Qt and GTK build and
if the user didn't want GTK anymore, just pass --without-gtk to the
configure script.



I have both Gtk3 and Gtk2 installed but build with Gtk2.  The Gtk3 UI just
looks horrible to me (and, no, I'm not one who really cares about how things
look but, well, I have a choice).

Could you please share a screenshot about what you find horrible in GTK3?
I'm using the Debian package which looks quite good to me and I
managed to get the OS X version to be nice as well:


(I generally build on Fedora though what I push to my users is for 
RHEL/CentOS.)


I think what really did it for me was the Decode-As window:

https://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev/201307/msg00198.html

I can (still) barely tell which tab I'm on.


http://balintreczey.hu/blog/beautiful-wireshark-on-os-x-using-homebrew-and-gtk3quartz/


Looking at it more I think another thing that bothers me even on the 
home page is that the (disabled - because in my build environment I 
don't have capture privs) start capture now icon is green (but with a 
different color background) rather than, as in the Gtk2 or Qt versions, 
well, not green at all.



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Re: [Wireshark-dev] --without-gtk3 doesn't imply --with-qt

2014-12-01 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi Jeff,

2014-12-01 18:59 GMT+01:00 Jeff Morriss jeff.morriss...@gmail.com:
 On 11/29/14 05:44, Bálint Réczey wrote:

 Hi Jeff,

 2014-11-26 19:26 GMT+01:00 Jeff Morriss jeff.morriss...@gmail.com:

 On 11/26/14 13:01, Stephen Fisher wrote:


 Is there any reason a user would have both GTK3 and GTK2 installed and
 not want to use GTK3 for wireshark-gtk builds?  We could simplify it to
 be --with-gtk/--without-gtk and --with-qt/--without-qt and just use the
 latest version of GTK on the system (3.x, if available, otherwise 2.x)
 when requested.  The default could remain to make a Qt and GTK build and
 if the user didn't want GTK anymore, just pass --without-gtk to the
 configure script.



 I have both Gtk3 and Gtk2 installed but build with Gtk2.  The Gtk3 UI
 just
 looks horrible to me (and, no, I'm not one who really cares about how
 things
 look but, well, I have a choice).

 Could you please share a screenshot about what you find horrible in GTK3?
 I'm using the Debian package which looks quite good to me and I
 managed to get the OS X version to be nice as well:


 (I generally build on Fedora though what I push to my users is for
 RHEL/CentOS.)

 I think what really did it for me was the Decode-As window:

 https://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev/201307/msg00198.html

 I can (still) barely tell which tab I'm on.
Yes, the active and inactive tabs look almost the same, because there
is no theme installed for GTK+ and the default look was pretty ugly.

Adwaita became the built-in standard theme from GTK+3.14 thus the default look
should change to something similar to what I attached on every system.



 http://balintreczey.hu/blog/beautiful-wireshark-on-os-x-using-homebrew-and-gtk3quartz/


 Looking at it more I think another thing that bothers me even on the home
 page is that the (disabled - because in my build environment I don't have
 capture privs) start capture now icon is green (but with a different color
 background) rather than, as in the Gtk2 or Qt versions, well, not green at
 all.
I can hardly fix that in GTK+3, it is the the icon shipped with Wireshark. :-)

Cheers,
Balint
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Gtk3 ugliness (Was: --without-gtk3 doesn't imply --with-qt)

2014-12-01 Thread Jeff Morriss

On 12/01/14 13:29, Bálint Réczey wrote:

Hi Jeff,

2014-12-01 18:59 GMT+01:00 Jeff Morriss jeff.morriss...@gmail.com:

On 11/29/14 05:44, Bálint Réczey wrote:


Hi Jeff,

2014-11-26 19:26 GMT+01:00 Jeff Morriss jeff.morriss...@gmail.com:


On 11/26/14 13:01, Stephen Fisher wrote:



Is there any reason a user would have both GTK3 and GTK2 installed and
not want to use GTK3 for wireshark-gtk builds?  We could simplify it to
be --with-gtk/--without-gtk and --with-qt/--without-qt and just use the
latest version of GTK on the system (3.x, if available, otherwise 2.x)
when requested.  The default could remain to make a Qt and GTK build and
if the user didn't want GTK anymore, just pass --without-gtk to the
configure script.




I have both Gtk3 and Gtk2 installed but build with Gtk2.  The Gtk3 UI
just
looks horrible to me (and, no, I'm not one who really cares about how
things
look but, well, I have a choice).


Could you please share a screenshot about what you find horrible in GTK3?
I'm using the Debian package which looks quite good to me and I
managed to get the OS X version to be nice as well:



(I generally build on Fedora though what I push to my users is for
RHEL/CentOS.)

I think what really did it for me was the Decode-As window:

https://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev/201307/msg00198.html

I can (still) barely tell which tab I'm on.

Yes, the active and inactive tabs look almost the same, because there
is no theme installed for GTK+ and the default look was pretty ugly.

Adwaita became the built-in standard theme from GTK+3.14 thus the default look
should change to something similar to what I attached on every system.


That certainly looks usable (a big improvement from what's there now). 
:-)  I guess it's just a question of when I upgrade to a Fedora version 
with the new Gtk3.



http://balintreczey.hu/blog/beautiful-wireshark-on-os-x-using-homebrew-and-gtk3quartz/



Looking at it more I think another thing that bothers me even on the home
page is that the (disabled - because in my build environment I don't have
capture privs) start capture now icon is green (but with a different color
background) rather than, as in the Gtk2 or Qt versions, well, not green at
all.

I can hardly fix that in GTK+3, it is the the icon shipped with Wireshark. :-)


Hmm it works well with Gtk2 though: I get a nice green icon when I can 
capture and a nice gray icon (with the same shape) when I can't capture.


Do you mean for Gtk3 we need to ship 2 icons (one for enabled and one 
for disabled) or are we disabling the icons the wrong way [in Gtk3]?


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Re: [Wireshark-dev] The possibility of a curses based Wireshark

2014-12-01 Thread Stephen Fisher
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 06:54:43PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote:

 I would totally make this with TurboVision as the TUI.

Ah, the good oll' days.  And I had no idea it was open source now!

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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Toolbar icons without text -- know issue in Qt?

2014-12-01 Thread Gerald Combs
On 11/25/14 1:56 PM, Stephen Fisher wrote:
 Is it a known issue in Wireshark Qt that it only shows icons in the main 
 toolbar, even when the icons and text option is chosen in the 
 preferences?

The necessary plumbing from the preferencesChanged signal to a slot that
calls main_ui_-mainToolBar-setToolButtonStyle doesn't currently exist,
but it should be easy enough to add.

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Re: [Wireshark-dev] The possibility of a curses based Wireshark

2014-12-01 Thread Stephen Fisher

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 11:05:20AM +0100, B?lint R?czey wrote:

 While I would not stop you from starting a nice big interesting 
 project you can already run Wireshark remotely via HTTP using GTK+ 3's 
 Broadway backend. You just need to use a tunnel for HTTP and it works 
 way better on high-latency networks than X forwarding.

Wow!  I didn't know that existed.  Thanks.
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