Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-03-02 Thread Dario Lombardo
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:


 The fastest way to get a decent menagerie right now might be to write a
 script that scrapes all public bugzilla attachments... That's where the
 majority of our menagerie comes from anyways.


I downloaded samples from wireshark's wiki, and what I'm working on so far.
The issue is that the script downloaded some rubbish, too, so I hoped to
have a clean, flat, database.
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-03-02 Thread Evan Huus
Sorry, after Chris's concerns I took it down until we could get a final answer 
there, just to be safe.

Gerald would have to be the one to expose it via anything other than a torrent, 
I think, since he controls the website. He also probably knows more about the 
privacy restrictions on those files...

The fastest way to get a decent menagerie right now might be to write a script 
that scrapes all public bugzilla attachments... That's where the majority of 
our menagerie comes from anyways.

Evan

 On Mar 2, 2015, at 05:42, Dario Lombardo dario.lombardo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Evan,
 I'm not still able to download the torrent. Anyone tried and succeded?
 Can't the daily menagerie be exposed via a more convenient interface like 
 http? I don't think the generated traffic would flood the server, especially 
 if the files are compressed in a tar.bz2 or a zip.
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-03-02 Thread Dario Lombardo
Evan,
I'm not still able to download the torrent. Anyone tried and succeded?
Can't the daily menagerie be exposed via a more convenient interface like
http? I don't think the generated traffic would flood the server,
especially if the files are compressed in a tar.bz2 or a zip.
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-02-27 Thread Dario Lombardo
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have rsync set up via ssh to the host server, but I'm pretty sure we
 can't just give everyone ssh access :)


Yes of course :). Maybe a public interface like http (or even rsync should
be unautenticated, but I have no personal experience using it).

For now, hopefully this torrent file works better.


Unfortunately bittorrent is often used for illegal purposes, so in many
(enterprise) environments it is forbidden.
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-02-27 Thread Anders Broman


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[mailto:wireshark-dev-boun...@wireshark.org] On Behalf Of Evan Huus
Sent: den 27 februari 2015 13:56
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Subject: Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

The menagerie consists mostly of files uploaded to bugzilla. Captures attached 
to bug tickets are automatically added to the menagerie, and most files in the 
menagerie can be downloaded from a bug report somewhere.

I'm not sure if there is a more convenient way to download the entire 
menagerie available to the general public. Adding files is as easy as filing a 
dummy bug and attaching files to that.

I think you can also add them to the wiki sample captures.
Regards
Anders

 On Feb 27, 2015, at 05:41, Dario Lombardo dario.lombardo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Browsing the buildbot site, I've read somewhere about menagerie. I suppose it 
 is a large set of file that is used as regression test. 
 Is it correct? Is it possible to download it? And to upload new samples to it?
 Thanks.
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-02-27 Thread Dario Lombardo
The size is not huge. Why not just host it on the wireshark main site?
Torrent is amazing, but I think it is needed only when the size is really
huge.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:

 1.8 GB

 I think it's a routing problem, not a torrent problem, I probably need
 to open a hole in my firewall or something. I'm at work now anyways,
 so I'll look at it again tonight unless somebody beats me to it.

 Evan

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 dario.lombardo...@gmail.com wrote:
  Should be supported by your torrent client (maybe create torrent or
  something). Once you succeded, send us the torrent.
  How large it is?
 
  On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Although it seems it's not working for me to download on my laptop - I
  need to figure out how to properly create/host/seed a torrent I
  guess...
 
  Evan
 
  On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:
   I have a local copy that I grabbed by logging into the host server -
   I've created a torrent of it (attached) which I am currently seeding,
   so you should be able to grab it from me (and if you do, please seed
   to others in return!).
  
   Gerald hopefully this is OK, as far as I know all of the relevant
   captures are publicly available on Bugzilla or the wiki anyways.
  
   Evan
  
   P.S. This is a snapshot of the menagerie as of today, of course.
  
   On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Dario Lombardo
   dario.lombardo...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
  
   I'm not sure if there is a more convenient way to download the
 entire
   menagerie available to the general public.
  
  
   Who can know that? Gerald maybe? It would be very useful when
   conducting
   large scale tests to have access to a local copy of them, just like
 the
   buildbot.
  
  
  
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-02-27 Thread Evan Huus
1.8 GB

I think it's a routing problem, not a torrent problem, I probably need
to open a hole in my firewall or something. I'm at work now anyways,
so I'll look at it again tonight unless somebody beats me to it.

Evan

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Dario Lombardo
dario.lombardo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Should be supported by your torrent client (maybe create torrent or
 something). Once you succeded, send us the torrent.
 How large it is?

 On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Although it seems it's not working for me to download on my laptop - I
 need to figure out how to properly create/host/seed a torrent I
 guess...

 Evan

 On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have a local copy that I grabbed by logging into the host server -
  I've created a torrent of it (attached) which I am currently seeding,
  so you should be able to grab it from me (and if you do, please seed
  to others in return!).
 
  Gerald hopefully this is OK, as far as I know all of the relevant
  captures are publicly available on Bugzilla or the wiki anyways.
 
  Evan
 
  P.S. This is a snapshot of the menagerie as of today, of course.
 
  On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Dario Lombardo
  dario.lombardo...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  I'm not sure if there is a more convenient way to download the entire
  menagerie available to the general public.
 
 
  Who can know that? Gerald maybe? It would be very useful when
  conducting
  large scale tests to have access to a local copy of them, just like the
  buildbot.
 
 
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-02-27 Thread Dario Lombardo
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm not sure if there is a more convenient way to download the entire
 menagerie available to the general public.


Who can know that? Gerald maybe? It would be very useful when conducting
large scale tests to have access to a local copy of them, just like the
buildbot.
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-02-27 Thread Evan Huus
Although it seems it's not working for me to download on my laptop - I
need to figure out how to properly create/host/seed a torrent I
guess...

Evan

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a local copy that I grabbed by logging into the host server -
 I've created a torrent of it (attached) which I am currently seeding,
 so you should be able to grab it from me (and if you do, please seed
 to others in return!).

 Gerald hopefully this is OK, as far as I know all of the relevant
 captures are publicly available on Bugzilla or the wiki anyways.

 Evan

 P.S. This is a snapshot of the menagerie as of today, of course.

 On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Dario Lombardo
 dario.lombardo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm not sure if there is a more convenient way to download the entire
 menagerie available to the general public.


 Who can know that? Gerald maybe? It would be very useful when conducting
 large scale tests to have access to a local copy of them, just like the
 buildbot.

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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-02-27 Thread Dario Lombardo
Should be supported by your torrent client (maybe create torrent or
something). Once you succeded, send us the torrent.
How large it is?

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Although it seems it's not working for me to download on my laptop - I
 need to figure out how to properly create/host/seed a torrent I
 guess...

 Evan

 On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have a local copy that I grabbed by logging into the host server -
  I've created a torrent of it (attached) which I am currently seeding,
  so you should be able to grab it from me (and if you do, please seed
  to others in return!).
 
  Gerald hopefully this is OK, as far as I know all of the relevant
  captures are publicly available on Bugzilla or the wiki anyways.
 
  Evan
 
  P.S. This is a snapshot of the menagerie as of today, of course.
 
  On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Dario Lombardo
  dario.lombardo...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  I'm not sure if there is a more convenient way to download the entire
  menagerie available to the general public.
 
 
  Who can know that? Gerald maybe? It would be very useful when conducting
  large scale tests to have access to a local copy of them, just like the
  buildbot.
 
 
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-02-27 Thread Evan Huus
The menagerie consists mostly of files uploaded to bugzilla. Captures attached 
to bug tickets are automatically added to the menagerie, and most files in the 
menagerie can be downloaded from a bug report somewhere.

I'm not sure if there is a more convenient way to download the entire menagerie 
available to the general public. Adding files is as easy as filing a dummy bug 
and attaching files to that.

 On Feb 27, 2015, at 05:41, Dario Lombardo dario.lombardo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Browsing the buildbot site, I've read somewhere about menagerie. I suppose it 
 is a large set of file that is used as regression test. 
 Is it correct? Is it possible to download it? And to upload new samples to it?
 Thanks.
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-02-27 Thread Dario Lombardo
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Ed Beroset bero...@mindspring.com wrote:


 From the originally sent torrent, it seems to be 1.88G.  I'm interested in
 this too and could seed pretty much perpetually once we get it started.


I would rather prefer a rsync-compatible interface. The scenario I'm
figuring out is that a devel downloads the entire set the first time, then
just downloads the new files. Rsync would be perfect for that.
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-02-27 Thread Ed Beroset
Dario Lombardo wrote:
Should be supported by your torrent client (maybe create torrent or
something). Once you succeded, send us the torrent.
How large it is?

From the originally sent torrent, it seems to be 1.88G.  I'm interested in 
this too and could seed pretty much perpetually once we get it started.

Ed


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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-02-27 Thread Christopher Maynard
Evan Huus eapache@... writes:

 I have a local copy that I grabbed by logging into the host server -
 I've created a torrent of it (attached) which I am currently seeding,
 so you should be able to grab it from me (and if you do, please seed
 to others in return!).
 
 Gerald hopefully this is OK, as far as I know all of the relevant
 captures are publicly available on Bugzilla or the wiki anyways.
 
 Evan
 
 P.S. This is a snapshot of the menagerie as of today, of course.

I believe some of the capture files have been marked as private and should
not be distributed.  At the very least, I would recommend holding off on
publishing any torrent until that can be verified.

Also, some time ago, the folks at cloudshark offered a cloudshark appliance
to the Wireshark project.  I would much rather see Wireshark take advantage
of something like that than making the menagerie capture files in a way such
as this or how Jakub did years ago.

- Chris 

See also: http://goo.gl/oixnSm


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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Menagerie

2015-02-27 Thread Evan Huus
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Christopher Maynard
christopher.mayn...@gtech.com wrote:
 Evan Huus eapache@... writes:

 I have a local copy that I grabbed by logging into the host server -
 I've created a torrent of it (attached) which I am currently seeding,
 so you should be able to grab it from me (and if you do, please seed
 to others in return!).

 Gerald hopefully this is OK, as far as I know all of the relevant
 captures are publicly available on Bugzilla or the wiki anyways.

 Evan

 P.S. This is a snapshot of the menagerie as of today, of course.

 I believe some of the capture files have been marked as private and should
 not be distributed.  At the very least, I would recommend holding off on
 publishing any torrent until that can be verified.

They are still publicly exposed every time the fuzz-bot finds a bug in
our dissection of one of them (unless it knows which ones those are,
and files the bugs as core-only)?

If they are truly private, they should be moved to a separate part of
the menagerie that is not fuzzed regularly.

 Also, some time ago, the folks at cloudshark offered a cloudshark appliance
 to the Wireshark project.  I would much rather see Wireshark take advantage
 of something like that than making the menagerie capture files in a way such
 as this or how Jakub did years ago.

That would certainly be more convenient.

 - Chris

 See also: http://goo.gl/oixnSm


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