[Wireshark-users] capturing packets in stealth mode on Windows

2007-02-03 Thread David Durgee
I need to capture packets between a cable modem and a
router for diagnostic purposes.  I have inserted a hub
between them, so I can attach the Win2K system to it,
but I need to avoid having the capturing system
inserting packets of its own as it might either mask
the problem I am trying to diagnose or create new
problems.

I have downloaded and installed Wireshark 0.99.4 on a
Windows 2000 system.  I am able to capture packets on
my ethernet interface with the interface enabled and
in full operation, but if I disable the interface as I
expect I will need to in order to operate stealthy
the interface is not available to select for capture
in Wireshark.

How do I need to configure things to be able to do
what I need?  Can I define another ethernet interface
using the same NIC that has no protocols enabled on it
and then swap which one is enabled?  Do I need to
disable all protocols on the existing interface for
the capture and then manually re-enable them when I
want to reconnect to the network?

Any help appreciated.

Dave




 

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Re: [Wireshark-users] capturing packets in stealth mode on Windows

2007-02-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
David Durgee wrote:
 I have downloaded and installed Wireshark 0.99.4 on a
 Windows 2000 system.  I am able to capture packets on
 my ethernet interface with the interface enabled and
 in full operation, but if I disable the interface as I
 expect I will need to in order to operate stealthy
 the interface is not available to select for capture
 in Wireshark.
   
Obviously, if you disable an interface - it's disabled :-)
 How do I need to configure things to be able to do
 what I need?  Can I define another ethernet interface
 using the same NIC that has no protocols enabled on it
 and then swap which one is enabled?  Do I need to
 disable all protocols on the existing interface for
 the capture and then manually re-enable them when I
 want to reconnect to the network?
   
Disabling the TCP/IP stack of that interface should be usually enough to 
keep the interface quiet - however, never tried it myself if it's really 
quiet then.

There are potentially a lot of services running on top of a network 
interface, some common today are:

- TCP/IP (switch this off - this will prevent ARP, DNS, NBNS, ... to get 
on the network)
- VPN (switch this off)
- services to capture network traffic (should send no packets)
- personal firewall software (should send no packets)

Hope this helps,

Regards, ULFL

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Re: [Wireshark-users] capturing packets in stealth mode on Windows

2007-02-03 Thread Small, James
Dave,

Under the Network Adapter Properties, under the General Tab, you should
see a list of clients/protocols/etc. that use the particular network
adapter.  For example:
Client for Microsoft Networks
VMware Bridge Protocol
Deterministic Network Enhancer
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
Network Monitor Driver
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

You want to uncheck everything except the Network Monitor Driver - I
believe this is what WinPcap is using to monitor the network adapter.

You should then be able to silently monitor the network that this
particular network adapter is hooked up to.  I have tried this and it
works for me.

That said, if you want a perfect solution, you would have to have to get
a switch that can mirror/SPAN ports, or get a network tap, or cut the
transmit wires on the patch cord.

--Jim

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 I need to capture packets between a cable modem and a
 router for diagnostic purposes.  I have inserted a hub
 between them, so I can attach the Win2K system to it,
 but I need to avoid having the capturing system
 inserting packets of its own as it might either mask
 the problem I am trying to diagnose or create new
 problems.
 
 I have downloaded and installed Wireshark 0.99.4 on a
 Windows 2000 system.  I am able to capture packets on
 my ethernet interface with the interface enabled and
 in full operation, but if I disable the interface as I
 expect I will need to in order to operate stealthy
 the interface is not available to select for capture
 in Wireshark.
 
 How do I need to configure things to be able to do
 what I need?  Can I define another ethernet interface
 using the same NIC that has no protocols enabled on it
 and then swap which one is enabled?  Do I need to
 disable all protocols on the existing interface for
 the capture and then manually re-enable them when I
 want to reconnect to the network?
 
 Any help appreciated.
 
 Dave
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: [Wireshark-users] capturing packets in stealth mode on Windows

2007-02-03 Thread Guy Harris
Small, James wrote:

 You want to uncheck everything except the Network Monitor Driver - I
 believe this is what WinPcap is using to monitor the network adapter.

Only for PPP interfaces.  For LAN interfaces, it has its own driver for 
this.  It doesn't appear to show up in the adapter properties window, 
even after running Wireshark (it's load-on-demand, as I remember).
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