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[WiX-users] WiX 3 CustomActions in Fragments

2008-05-19 Thread Alex Goryuk
Hi,

How does one go about placing CustomActions in a fragment (separate file)
and then include them at build time?

I¹ve tried creating the following 2 files with a reference to the Fragment
file
1) installer.wxs 
 * WiXProduct..FragmentRef Id=CAs
/./Product/Wix

2) custom_actions.wxs
 * Fragment Id=CAsCustomAction/Fragment

Candle gives the following error:
...build\installer.wxs(32) : error CNDL0005 : The Product element contains
an unexpected child element 'FragmentRef'.

This works fine for a UIRef to a Fragment file, which makes this issue a bit
difficult to understand. Using WiX 3.0.2925.0

Thanks,
Alex G.
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Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3 CustomActions in Fragments

2008-05-19 Thread Scott Sam
I believe that you can define the CA's in a separate fragment, then just
schedule them in the main file and they will get included.

 

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Hi,

How does one go about placing CustomActions in a fragment (separate
file) and then include them at build time?

I've tried creating the following 2 files with a reference to the
Fragment file
1) installer.wxs 
 * WiXProduct..FragmentRef Id=CAs
/./Product/Wix

2) custom_actions.wxs
 * Fragment Id=CAsCustomAction/Fragment

Candle gives the following error:
...build\installer.wxs(32) : error CNDL0005 : The Product element
contains an unexpected child element 'FragmentRef'.

This works fine for a UIRef to a Fragment file, which makes this issue a
bit difficult to understand. Using WiX 3.0.2925.0

Thanks,
Alex G. 

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[WiX-users] Create website only if doesn't exist

2008-05-19 Thread Michał Łomnicki
Hello

 If we put iis:WebVirtualDir under website nested in Product tag, the
virtual directory will be created under existsing
website. If website is nested under Component tag, new website will be
created.
My question is how to create website only if given website doesn't exist?

Regards,
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Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-19 Thread Jason Ginchereau
Yes, a VS project template for a managed custom action is something we've 
talked about that would be nice to do. In general I want to work on some richer 
CA samples in the coming months.

From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:39 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

Sorry, one more question.   How do you feel about WiX registering a new project 
type in Visual Studio?   A sample C# class that includes the right references 
and plumbing to build the class and wrap it into a CA package assembly?

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1)  Yes, full support for the new functionality added in MSI 4.5 is near 
the top of my list of things to work on in DTF. I have briefly looked at the 
embedded external-UI feature, and I don't forsee any unusual technical 
challenges to enabling embedded external-UI in managed code.

2)  Oh, I guess that sample code in the doc is out of date. Properties are 
accessed as an indexer directly on the session object. The CHM reference topic 
for the Session class (Item Property) and the actual sample ManagedCA project 
are correct.

3)  DTF samples are included in the WiX sources (src/dtf/Samples) but not 
in WiX3.msi.

4)  Umm, grapefruit juice. Seriously. :)

Thank you for reporting these issues. I hope you find DTF useful.

-Jason-

From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:25 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

I have a few other questions for you if you don't mind.

1) Will DTF have support for authoring MSI 4.5 style Embedded External UI 
handlers?

2) The Sample C# custom action references a Session.Property[ string Property ] 
 but when I add the reference and using statement I get an error that that 
Session doesn't have a definition for Property.  Am I pulling in the wrong 
reference or something?

3) The CHM topic references a Samples\ManagedCA directory. I don't see it?

4)  What's your favorite beverage?



Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks like Errors.resources.resources got ignored by by the zip which is 
supposed to pickup all the sources, because of the .resources file extension. 
I'll fix it for the next build.

Meanwhile you can create that file by running resgen.exe on Errors.txt. (I 
should probably make that happen during the project build anyway.) Or you can 
build without it, but you'll get resource exceptions instead of error messages 
if you encounter any errors in cabinet creation/extraction.

-Jason-

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Painter
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

I also pulled the sources but I can't get the Compression.Cab project in the 
DTF solution to build.  It's missing the file Errors.resources.resources file.  
If I exclude it from the project it seems to build fine though.

Christopher Painter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm was reading DTF.chm and it looks really fabulous.  I want to play with it 
right now but I don't see MakeSfxCA.exe.  Am I missing something?



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[WiX-users] Integrate WiX in our process

2008-05-19 Thread Ene Stelian-Bogdan
Hello,
 
Here's the way our process currently looks like:
- We build and ship the main product installer as an MSI, Installshield
based project. I am talking about a 900MB product, comprising of about
15.000 files and 2300 folders, so we use Installshield's Dynamic
linking feature extensively. (Basically, you point to a folder, and
components will be generated on the fly at build time, one component per
directory; the ComponentIDs will of course change on every rebuild)
Needless to say, we don't subscribe to the MSI/WiX philosophy of having
developers maintain the installer components; I receive one big zip
file, and must deliver an installer. While I have nothing against
changing this state of facts, I don't think it will change soon.
- When new chips are introduced, we must deliver a Service pack that
will offer compiling/debugging support for it. The patch will generally
add new files to the installation, and sometimes update existing files,
always in a backwards-compatible manner. Since customers will download
only the patch offering support for the device they are working with,
these patches can be applied more or less in any order. Currently, these
patches are built using the NullSoft installer.
 
As a first step, I'd like to get rid of NullSoft, and replace it with
WiX; on the long run, a full transition to WiX could be an interesting
option. 
I don't understand how I can use MSI's own patching support: it seems to
impose a linear evolution of the product, with a well defined sequence
of applying patches - and by all means, do correct me if I'm wrong.
My first impulse is to integrate something like tallow/paraffin in the
patch build system, and generate service packs as standalone installers
with 1 component/file (performance of patches is not really critical,
they are quite small). Coupled with Installshield's dynamic linking,
this is bound to break the component rules in a systematic manner. Also,
there's the open issue of uninstalling these patches when the main
product is uninstalled. 

Can you provide some pointers on the best way to proceed ?
 
Thank you !

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Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Painter
I'm working on a sample for my blog right now.   In doing so, I've noticed 
something.   It seems that session.Log() method automatically formats the text. 
  For example I want to do something like
   
  // Property A = 21
  // Property B = 2
  string expression = [A]*[B]; //Really comes from table data
  session.Log( MyCA: Found Expression:  + expression );
  string formattedExpression = session.Format( expression );
  session.Log (MyCa: Expression Formats as:  + formattedExpression );
   
  But when I look at my logfile, both lines say  21*2 instead of [A]*[B] and 
21*2.
   
  Make sense?  I'm wondering if there is a way to log the data found without 
formatting it.
   
   
  

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, a VS project template for a managed custom action is 
something we've talked about that would be nice to do. In general I want to 
work on some richer CA samples in the coming months.
   
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:39 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

   
  Sorry, one more question.   How do you feel about WiX registering a new 
project type in Visual Studio?   A sample C# class that includes the right 
references and plumbing to build the class and wrap it into a CA package 
assembly?

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
1)  Yes, full support for the new functionality added in MSI 4.5 is 
near the top of my list of things to work on in DTF. I have briefly looked at 
the embedded external-UI feature, and I don't forsee any unusual technical 
challenges to enabling embedded external-UI in managed code.

 

2)  Oh, I guess that sample code in the doc is out of date. Properties 
are accessed as an indexer directly on the session object. The CHM reference 
topic for the Session class (Item Property) and the actual sample ManagedCA 
project are correct.

 

3)  DTF samples are included in the WiX sources (src/dtf/Samples) but 
not in WiX3.msi.

 

4)  Umm, grapefruit juice. Seriously. :)

 

Thank you for reporting these issues. I hope you find DTF useful.

 

-Jason-

 

  From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:25 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX


 

  I have a few other questions for you if you don't mind. 


   


  1) Will DTF have support for authoring MSI 4.5 style Embedded External UI 
handlers?


   


  2) The Sample C# custom action references a Session.Property[ string 
Property ]  but when I add the reference and using statement I get an error 
that that Session doesn't have a definition for Property.  Am I pulling in the 
wrong reference or something?


   


  3) The CHM topic references a Samples\ManagedCA directory. I don't see it?


   


  4)  What's your favorite beverage?


   


  

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Looks like Errors.resources.resources got ignored by by the zip which 
is supposed to pickup all the sources, because of the .resources file 
extension. I'll fix it for the next build.


   


  Meanwhile you can create that file by running resgen.exe on Errors.txt. 
(I should probably make that happen during the project build anyway.) Or you 
can build without it, but you'll get resource exceptions instead of error 
messages if you encounter any errors in cabinet creation/extraction.


   


  -Jason-


   


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Painter
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX



   


  I also pulled the sources but I can't get the Compression.Cab project in 
the DTF solution to build.  It's missing the file Errors.resources.resources 
file.  If I exclude it from the project it seems to build fine though.

Christopher Painter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


I'm was reading DTF.chm and it looks really fabulous.  I want to play 
with it right now but I don't see MakeSfxCA.exe.  Am I missing something?



 



   





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Re: [WiX-users] DigitalCertificate Element

2008-05-19 Thread Tony Hoyle
Albert Shamsiyan wrote:
 Thanks for the prompt response Adam.
 
 So basically I should point the [EMAIL PROTECTED] element to the public key 
 (spc file) representing my company signatures? If that's so, Is it possible 
 to extract it from already signed file? If so how?

You probably have to point it at the private key, otherwise there 
wouldn't be a lot of point - a public key isn't any use except for 
verification of a signature on a file.. it's public (hence the name) 
thus confers zero security on its own.

It goes without saying that the private key is not in the signed file.

Tony

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Re: [WiX-users] Integrate WiX in our process

2008-05-19 Thread Rob Mensching
The Dynamic linking feature where Component Ids change with every build makes 
it impossible to patch.  In fact, I think the only option available to you 
using that methodology for creating MSI packages is major upgrade.  Also, I 
assume you don't have any shared files in the big zip file because those 
would not be reference counted correctly.

It's interesting you use NSIS for the patches.  Does the interaction between 
NSIS patches plus MSI repair/uninstall work out well?

I'm not up on the intimate details of patching but there are new features in 
the WiX toolset that enable you to create patches that target subsets of your 
setup authoring.  That enables you to build independent patches for different 
areas of your installation.  However, when you need to patch the same file more 
than once, the patch ordering definitely becomes an issue.  I'm not sure this 
advanced functionality is available unless you use the WiX toolset to create 
the MSI (I think a lot of information comes from the .wixpdb), but it *may* be 
possible using admin images.

Ultimately, I believe that you are correct that maintaining Component Guids is 
going to be the hardest problem to tackle when creating your patch system.  I 
know Bob had to tackle this exact problem in his day job so he may have 
suggestions of things to try or avoid.  I also know that tallow/heat in their 
current form will not help you because they don't correctly assign Guids.  I 
haven't tried paraffin but on my initial readings it looked like it was trying 
to do the right thing... but I don't know if it works in this sort of scenario.

Note, these issues for Component Guid are a recognized pain point in the 
Windows Installer. I'm still working on a way to solve the problem of automatic 
Guid generation.


Finally, the philosophy that each developer should maintain their portion of 
setup is my personal philosophy.  The WiX toolset has features to enable such 
distributed setup development but that doesn't mean you have to use them.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ene 
Stelian-Bogdan
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 09:41
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Integrate WiX in our process

Hello,

Here's the way our process currently looks like:
- We build and ship the main product installer as an MSI, Installshield
based project. I am talking about a 900MB product, comprising of about
15.000 files and 2300 folders, so we use Installshield's Dynamic
linking feature extensively. (Basically, you point to a folder, and
components will be generated on the fly at build time, one component per
directory; the ComponentIDs will of course change on every rebuild)
Needless to say, we don't subscribe to the MSI/WiX philosophy of having
developers maintain the installer components; I receive one big zip
file, and must deliver an installer. While I have nothing against
changing this state of facts, I don't think it will change soon.
- When new chips are introduced, we must deliver a Service pack that
will offer compiling/debugging support for it. The patch will generally
add new files to the installation, and sometimes update existing files,
always in a backwards-compatible manner. Since customers will download
only the patch offering support for the device they are working with,
these patches can be applied more or less in any order. Currently, these
patches are built using the NullSoft installer.

As a first step, I'd like to get rid of NullSoft, and replace it with
WiX; on the long run, a full transition to WiX could be an interesting
option.
I don't understand how I can use MSI's own patching support: it seems to
impose a linear evolution of the product, with a well defined sequence
of applying patches - and by all means, do correct me if I'm wrong.
My first impulse is to integrate something like tallow/paraffin in the
patch build system, and generate service packs as standalone installers
with 1 component/file (performance of patches is not really critical,
they are quite small). Coupled with Installshield's dynamic linking,
this is bound to break the component rules in a systematic manner. Also,
there's the open issue of uninstalling these patches when the main
product is uninstalled.

Can you provide some pointers on the best way to proceed ?

Thank you !

--
Stelian ENE
Installer Engineer, DevTech
Freescale Semiconductor
Work: +40 21 305 2064
Mobile: +40 728 052 499

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Re: [WiX-users] Installing .NET 3.5 redist?

2008-05-19 Thread Rob Mensching
Neil, why does a bootstrapper mean you have to give up control?  The latest 
version of Office uses a bootstrapper to install a great many MSI packages to 
actually take back complete control of the installation experience (for 
example, one progress bar with no resets).  It has extremely consistent look 
and feel.  Granted it took them a lot of work to accomplish that but you should 
be able to get the same sort of experience.

The fundamental fact is that many installs are moving toward multi-package 
installs.  There are a number of reasons for it but the big ones come down to 
the limitations around patching redistributables (i.e. lack of Merge Module 
patching support) and multi-lingual installations.  The problem for us on the 
WiX toolset is that I'm 2 years behind execution on the bootstrapper platform I 
wanted in the WiX toolset.  I saw the need a long time ago when I created the 
silly little bootstrapper that is part of the WiX toolset today but we need 
something far more feature rich than that.  Fortunately, Fredrik (of MSMQ and 
COM+ fame) is working on it and based on his previous work, I'm pretty 
confident it will provide a great starting point... when he gets done.

Finally, there is no WiX philosophy about the way you should handle your 
dependencies.  The WiX toolset should allow you to handle your dependencies how 
you wish.  Eventually, I hope we have an out of box experience for those that 
desire (or need to handle) a multi-package experience.  Right now, you just 
have to write a lot more code (or use some other existing bootstrapper) to get 
multi-package scenarios.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Enns
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 18:27
To: Adam Majer; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Installing .NET 3.5 redist?

The problem with option 1 is that it means we have to give up control of the 
end-to-end install and out of box experience for our product. When you are 
trying to construct a carefully designed user experience and impression of your 
application, a bootstrapper is a pretty fugly addition to the mix. Contrast 
that with our DirectX 9.0 install, which we can seamlessly fold into our 
installer with no need for intervention by the user.

I'm sure there are plenty of reasons why the .NET team had to go with the 
distribution solution they did. It just means our final experience winds up 
being less than we'd hoped. Ah well.

Neil


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Christopher Painter wrote:
 The WiX `philosophy` seems to be  don't add .NET dependencies to your
 install and don't redist the framework.Just do an AppSearch/Launch
 Condition and tell the user to go do it on their own. Personally
 this conflicts with my needs and results in one of the many reasons why
 I can't use WiX even though I'd like to.

The limitation is with Windows Installer, *not* WiX. The correct way of
doing this is either,

  1. a bootstrapper that will check for MSI and install it if needed, or
  2. just ship your MSI with the requirement condition and let the
destination deal with installing .NET 3.5.

For corporate deployments, #2 is probably best while option #1 is better
for the home user.

MSI is just a single-transaction-at-a-time installer. It is not like
Debian's APT that can install dozens if not more dependencies for you at
the same time as it installs or upgrades hundreds of other applications.

- Adam


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Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Painter
If you'd give me some requirements and peer review my work, I'd be willing to 
help contribute the samples as part of my DTF learning process.
   
  BTW, I'm refactoring an ExecuteQuery/Scalar pattern I just wrote to LINQ and 
I'm a little confused on how to get from session to QDatabase.  the 
db.InstallExecuteSequences explanation doesn't make sense to me.   ( BTW, my 
query is against a custom table, not a well known table ).

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, a VS project template for a managed custom action is 
something we've talked about that would be nice to do. In general I want to 
work on some richer CA samples in the coming months.
   
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:39 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

   
  Sorry, one more question.   How do you feel about WiX registering a new 
project type in Visual Studio?   A sample C# class that includes the right 
references and plumbing to build the class and wrap it into a CA package 
assembly?

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
1)  Yes, full support for the new functionality added in MSI 4.5 is 
near the top of my list of things to work on in DTF. I have briefly looked at 
the embedded external-UI feature, and I don't forsee any unusual technical 
challenges to enabling embedded external-UI in managed code.

 

2)  Oh, I guess that sample code in the doc is out of date. Properties 
are accessed as an indexer directly on the session object. The CHM reference 
topic for the Session class (Item Property) and the actual sample ManagedCA 
project are correct.

 

3)  DTF samples are included in the WiX sources (src/dtf/Samples) but 
not in WiX3.msi.

 

4)  Umm, grapefruit juice. Seriously. :)

 

Thank you for reporting these issues. I hope you find DTF useful.

 

-Jason-

 

  From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:25 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX


 

  I have a few other questions for you if you don't mind. 


   


  1) Will DTF have support for authoring MSI 4.5 style Embedded External UI 
handlers?


   


  2) The Sample C# custom action references a Session.Property[ string 
Property ]  but when I add the reference and using statement I get an error 
that that Session doesn't have a definition for Property.  Am I pulling in the 
wrong reference or something?


   


  3) The CHM topic references a Samples\ManagedCA directory. I don't see it?


   


  4)  What's your favorite beverage?


   


  

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Looks like Errors.resources.resources got ignored by by the zip which 
is supposed to pickup all the sources, because of the .resources file 
extension. I'll fix it for the next build.


   


  Meanwhile you can create that file by running resgen.exe on Errors.txt. 
(I should probably make that happen during the project build anyway.) Or you 
can build without it, but you'll get resource exceptions instead of error 
messages if you encounter any errors in cabinet creation/extraction.


   


  -Jason-


   


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Painter
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX



   


  I also pulled the sources but I can't get the Compression.Cab project in 
the DTF solution to build.  It's missing the file Errors.resources.resources 
file.  If I exclude it from the project it seems to build fine though.

Christopher Painter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


I'm was reading DTF.chm and it looks really fabulous.  I want to play 
with it right now but I don't see MakeSfxCA.exe.  Am I missing something?



 



   





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Re: [WiX-users] Installing .NET 3.5 redist?

2008-05-19 Thread Wilson, Phil
It's rather ironic that the Microsoft folks, including the .NET team, are just 
like us. In the case of (say) the 3.0 .NET FW they have something like 5 MSIs 
to install, consequently they have a bootstrapper to tie them together. So they 
don't really treat their product as a redist but rather as an actual product. 
I'm not complaining, just finding it interesting that we all have the same 
problems to solve. VS 2008 SP1 is similar.

There are reasons to keep these setups separate from yours, mainly the 
requirement for admin rights to install them which may not be the case with 
your app install.

It's not really all that safe for your own bootstrapper to check for Windows 
Installer because you don't know the minimum required level. You could insist 
on 3.0 perhaps, but you won't know what you need unless you look at all the 
embedded MSI files to see what they want.  Also, one version of the .NET FW 
shipped with an embedded update to the MSI engine, obviously something that 
needs installing first, so unless we can guarantee that they'll never do that 
again it rules out thinking about attempts to run a .NET FW install from a 
running MSI (leaving aside the other issues). Even in MSI 4.5 and a multi-MSI 
transaction I wouldn't like to reboot half-way through to restart where we left 
off to update the MSI engine (and I don't know what 4.5 does in this situation).

Phil Wilson

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Enns
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 6:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Installing .NET 3.5 redist?

The problem with option 1 is that it means we have to give up control of the 
end-to-end install and out of box experience for our product. When you are 
trying to construct a carefully designed user experience and impression of your 
application, a bootstrapper is a pretty fugly addition to the mix. Contrast 
that with our DirectX 9.0 install, which we can seamlessly fold into our 
installer with no need for intervention by the user.

I'm sure there are plenty of reasons why the .NET team had to go with the 
distribution solution they did. It just means our final experience winds up 
being less than we'd hoped. Ah well.

Neil


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Christopher Painter wrote:
 The WiX `philosophy` seems to be  don't add .NET dependencies to your
 install and don't redist the framework.Just do an AppSearch/Launch
 Condition and tell the user to go do it on their own. Personally
 this conflicts with my needs and results in one of the many reasons why
 I can't use WiX even though I'd like to.

The limitation is with Windows Installer, *not* WiX. The correct way of
doing this is either,

  1. a bootstrapper that will check for MSI and install it if needed, or
  2. just ship your MSI with the requirement condition and let the
destination deal with installing .NET 3.5.

For corporate deployments, #2 is probably best while option #1 is better
for the home user.

MSI is just a single-transaction-at-a-time installer. It is not like
Debian's APT that can install dozens if not more dependencies for you at
the same time as it installs or upgrades hundreds of other applications.

- Adam


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Re: [WiX-users] Registering a dll in Vista

2008-05-19 Thread Rob Mensching
Well, the most robust way to solve the problem is to add the COM registration 
to your setup authoring.  If you provide the appropriate Class, ProgId, 
TypeLib, and Registry elements in your setup then things should work very well 
under UAC. Heat (on non-Vista Oss) usually does a pretty good job grabbing the 
appropriate registration automatically but it certainly does miss some things 
(there are a number of bugs opened on heat right now about that).

There is also a way to have your DLL SelfReg called during install but that has 
a lot of issues as documented in the MSI SDK.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:23
To: Rob Mensching
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Registering a dll in Vista

I have a fairly simple installation process.  I copy a couple of files
into a Program Files directory (one of which is a DLL file) and then set
the keys needed to register that DLL.  I'm using a custom UI, which is
just 3 dialogs: a welcome to the installer dialog, the actual
installation dialog, and a installation complete dialog.  My MSI opens
without triggering anything.  But clicking my Install button, which
starts the actual installation, triggers a UAC message.

I tell Vista to allow the operation to continue and my installation
continues, appearing to work.  The files are put in the right place and
it looks like the registry keys are set correctly.  However, my DLL is
not registered correctly.  Also: if I try to manually register the DLL
file using regsvr32 (without elevated permissions) I get an access
denied error (error code 0x80070005).

I'd love to make my installation work with UAC, but, more importantly, I
don't want my installer to appear to work and not actually work.  I'm
reading through the links in Brian's reply right now, but are there any
easy answers for this?

Colin


Rob Mensching wrote:
 0.  Yeah, capturing SelfReg has turned out to be a pretty tricky process.  
 There are a lot of crazy SelfReg routines out there. smile/

 1.  There isn't currently an owner working on heat.exe so the development 
 stalled out when Derek moved on.  That makes it a real hit or miss tool.

 2.  Please do open a bug about heat not warning that it doesn't work well on 
 Vista.  That is a very good idea until/if we can fix all the open bugs about 
 heat on Vista.

 3.  Can you provide more details about what does not work when you install on 
 Vista with UAC?


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 23:10
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Registering a dll in Vista

 Wow, this has been a long two days in WiX world.  I've been trying to
 register a single DLL with WiX.  I started by using heat to capture all
 the registry keys set by my DLL.  (Feature request: it would be AWESOME
 if heat.exe returned some sort of error message in Vista telling me that
 even though it's generating valid output, it's not actually generating
 the correct set of registry keys.  After a day of beating my head
 against a wall I happened to stumble across a wixwiki page that
 mentioned that heat doesn't work 100% correctly in Vista.  Fantastic.)

 Anyway, I ran heat on XP and got a more complete looking set of registry
 keys.  But my installer STILL didn't register my DLL on a fresh Vista
 install correctly.  I just finally discovered that if I turn off Vista's
 UAC first my installer works correctly.  Is that expected?  Is there
 anything I can do to avoid this?  Or at the very least a condition I can
 set to prevent a seemingly valid install happen?

 Sorry for sounding a little rantish, it's been a long couple days... :)
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[WiX-users] Bootstrapper Guidence

2008-05-19 Thread Steve Payne
I need to create a bootstrapper that will both download/inslall .NET
Framework 2.0 and launch my MSI setup properly for minor upgrades.

So far I've created a setup.exe with Bootstrapper Manifest Generator that
handles the prereq very nicely, but not the minor upgrade.  And from what
i've seen, it looks like setupbld will properly handle the upgrade, but I
don't see how to add prerequisites.

Can someone get me pointed in the right direction on the best way to handle
this?

Thank you,

-- steve
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[WiX-users] Unexpected error while including merge Module

2008-05-19 Thread Doug Payne
I am using Wix 3.0. when I try to merge in the Visual Studio 9.0 documentation 
integration merge modules, I receive this exception:

d:\sa\drivers\mobilepc\auxdisplay\managedapi\setupsdk\light.exe : error 
LGHT0001 : Encountered an unexpected error while merging 
'd:\sa.binaries.x86fre\SideShow\API\Docs\HTML_Help_Registration__RTL_---_---.msm'.
 More information about the merge and the failure can be found in the merge 
log: 
'd:\sa.obj.x86fre\drivers\mobilepc\auxdisplay\managedapi\setupsdk\objfre\i386\-zslkxtz\merge.log'

Exception Type: System.InvalidOperationException

Stack Trace:
   at Microsoft.Tools.WindowsInstallerXml.Binder.MergeModules(String 
tempDatabaseFile, Output output, FileRowCollection fileRows, StringCollection 
suppressedTableNames)
   at Microsoft.Tools.WindowsInstallerXml.Binder.BindDatabase(Output output, 
String databaseFile)
   at Microsoft.Tools.WindowsInstallerXml.Binder.Bind(Output output, String 
file)
   at Microsoft.Tools.WindowsInstallerXml.Tools.Light.Run(String[] args)

has anyone seen this before? Any suggestions on how to proceed? Thanks..
--Doug

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[WiX-users] Comparing result of a dword RegistrySearch to a number?

2008-05-19 Thread Neil Enns
Ok, there's gotta be something obvious I'm missing here. How do I compare the 
result of a RegistrySearch for a dword against a number? I need to make sure 
the number returned is greater than or equal to 1, but it has the pesky # in 
front of it so a straight MYVARIABLE = 1 in the condition fails.

Thanks,

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Re: [WiX-users] Comparing result of a dword RegistrySearch to a number?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Painter
Assuming TESTPROP as the property assigned by Appsearch, try:
   
  TESTPROP and Not TESTPROP=#0
   
  This should make sure that the property has data and that it isn't 0.   Due 
to the nature of dwords, this should work.
  
Neil Enns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, there’s gotta be something obvious I’m missing here. How do 
I compare the result of a RegistrySearch for a dword against a number? I need 
to make sure the number returned is greater than or equal to 1, but it has the 
pesky “#” in front of it so a straight MYVARIABLE = 1 in the condition fails.
   
  Thanks,
   
  Neil

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Re: [WiX-users] Comparing result of a dword RegistrySearch to a number?

2008-05-19 Thread Neil Enns
I guess that'll work, but wow, there's no way to do an integer greater than?

Neil

From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:51 PM
To: Neil Enns; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Comparing result of a dword RegistrySearch to a number?

Assuming TESTPROP as the property assigned by Appsearch, try:

TESTPROP and Not TESTPROP=#0

This should make sure that the property has data and that it isn't 0.   Due to 
the nature of dwords, this should work.

Neil Enns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, there's gotta be something obvious I'm missing here. How do I compare the 
result of a RegistrySearch for a dword against a number? I need to make sure 
the number returned is greater than or equal to 1, but it has the pesky # in 
front of it so a straight MYVARIABLE = 1 in the condition fails.

Thanks,

Neil
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Re: [WiX-users] Comparing result of a dword RegistrySearch to a number?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Painter
You can try this also:  ( literals wrapped in quotes 
   
  TESTPROP#0   ( Might have to do some XML escaping )
   
  I seem to recall something about strange unexpected behavior on the 
comparisons but it's escaping me what it was at the moment if it exists at all.
  

Neil Enns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess that’ll work, but wow, there’s no way to do an integer 
greater than?
   
  Neil
   
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:51 PM
To: Neil Enns; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Comparing result of a dword RegistrySearch to a number?

   
Assuming TESTPROP as the property assigned by Appsearch, try:

 

TESTPROP and Not TESTPROP=#0

 

This should make sure that the property has data and that it isn't 0.   Due 
to the nature of dwords, this should work.


Neil Enns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Ok, there’s gotta be something obvious I’m missing here. How do I compare 
the result of a RegistrySearch for a dword against a number? I need to make 
sure the number returned is greater than or equal to 1, but it has the pesky 
“#” in front of it so a straight MYVARIABLE = 1 in the condition fails.

 

Thanks,

 

Neil

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[WiX-users] finding .net 3.5 or greater

2008-05-19 Thread Don Tasanasanta (Volt)
How do you determine whether or not the version of .NET Framework on the 
machine is greater than 3.5?
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Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-19 Thread Jason Ginchereau
I created Visual Studio templates today for C# and VB custom action projects. 
Look for them in the next build. I really should have done this before the 
release -- sorry for making you figure things out the hard way.

I'm happy to review any samples you want to contribute or blog about.

Be careful with the LINQ stuff... as noted in the doc it is experimental and 
has some limitations. I am interested in feedback about it though: How useful 
do you think it would be if the implementation was high quality?

Anyway it looks there's currently no public way to get a QDatabase for a custom 
action Session. That's an oversight that will be easy to fix. If you want to 
get something working temporarily, you can change the internal QDatabase 
constructor to public, rebuild, and then create one like this:
new QDatabase(session.Database.Handle, false, String.Empty, 
DatabaseOpenMode.ReadOnly);

To query a custom table, just use the indexer on the QDatabase instance: 
qdb[tableName] returns a general-purpose QTableQRecord. Or you can create 
your own custom QRecord subclass (like the ones in Entities.cs) and create and 
run queries on a QTableYourCustomRecord

-Jason-

From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:26 AM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

If you'd give me some requirements and peer review my work, I'd be willing to 
help contribute the samples as part of my DTF learning process.

BTW, I'm refactoring an ExecuteQuery/Scalar pattern I just wrote to LINQ and 
I'm a little confused on how to get from session to QDatabase.  the 
db.InstallExecuteSequences explanation doesn't make sense to me.   ( BTW, my 
query is against a custom table, not a well known table ).

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, a VS project template for a managed custom action is something we've 
talked about that would be nice to do. In general I want to work on some richer 
CA samples in the coming months.

From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:39 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

Sorry, one more question.   How do you feel about WiX registering a new project 
type in Visual Studio?   A sample C# class that includes the right references 
and plumbing to build the class and wrap it into a CA package assembly?

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1)  Yes, full support for the new functionality added in MSI 4.5 is near 
the top of my list of things to work on in DTF. I have briefly looked at the 
embedded external-UI feature, and I don't forsee any unusual technical 
challenges to enabling embedded external-UI in managed code.

2)  Oh, I guess that sample code in the doc is out of date. Properties are 
accessed as an indexer directly on the session object. The CHM reference topic 
for the Session class (Item Property) and the actual sample ManagedCA project 
are correct.

3)  DTF samples are included in the WiX sources (src/dtf/Samples) but not 
in WiX3.msi.

4)  Umm, grapefruit juice. Seriously. :)

Thank you for reporting these issues. I hope you find DTF useful.

-Jason-

From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:25 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

I have a few other questions for you if you don't mind.

1) Will DTF have support for authoring MSI 4.5 style Embedded External UI 
handlers?

2) The Sample C# custom action references a Session.Property[ string Property ] 
 but when I add the reference and using statement I get an error that that 
Session doesn't have a definition for Property.  Am I pulling in the wrong 
reference or something?

3) The CHM topic references a Samples\ManagedCA directory. I don't see it?

4)  What's your favorite beverage?



Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks like Errors.resources.resources got ignored by by the zip which is 
supposed to pickup all the sources, because of the .resources file extension. 
I'll fix it for the next build.

Meanwhile you can create that file by running resgen.exe on Errors.txt. (I 
should probably make that happen during the project build anyway.) Or you can 
build without it, but you'll get resource exceptions instead of error messages 
if you encounter any errors in cabinet creation/extraction.

-Jason-

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher 
Painter
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

I also pulled the sources but I can't get the Compression.Cab project in the 
DTF solution to build.  It's missing the file Errors.resources.resources file.  
If I exclude it from the project it seems to build fine though.

Christopher Painter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm 

Re: [WiX-users] finding .net 3.5 or greater

2008-05-19 Thread Neil Enns
You can use the NetFxExtension that comes with WiX. 
http://www.wixwiki.com/index.php?title=NetFxExtension.

Add -ext WixNetFxExtension to both candle.exe and light.exe, then you can add a 
PropertyRef to NETFRAMEWORK35. There's an example on the above page of how it 
all works.

Neil

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(Volt)
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:27 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] finding .net 3.5 or greater

How do you determine whether or not the version of .NET Framework on the 
machine is greater than 3.5?
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Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Painter
Cool, it's ok, it was a good learning excercise.  I've only been doing .NET for 
a couple years on the side so it's good to keep me on my toes.
   
  How useful is LINQ?Hehehe, your joking right?Do you have any idea how 
many times I've felt like blowing my brains out over the years after yet 
another vbscript 1720 error because I didn't properly escape some MSI SQL 
statement?
   
  As an aside I was working on a project a year ago that I never finished... a 
System.Data.Common DBProvider for MSI.   I'm now wondering how I could use MSI 
LINQ in the tools space to write visualization utilities like Orca.   I know 
how to do it ADO.NET style but I don't know what I would use here.
   
  Thanks for the Session-QDatabase tip.  I'll work on that and the subclassing 
and see what I can put together.   Wicked cool... this is the best interop I've 
seen yet for MSI and I've looked over quite a few of them in the last couple of 
years.
   
   
   
   
  
Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I created Visual Studio templates today for C# and VB custom 
action projects. Look for them in the next build. I really should have done 
this before the release -- sorry for making you figure things out the hard way.
   
  I'm happy to review any samples you want to contribute or blog about.
   
  Be careful with the LINQ stuff... as noted in the doc it is experimental and 
has some limitations. I am interested in feedback about it though: How useful 
do you think it would be if the implementation was high quality?
   
  Anyway it looks there's currently no public way to get a QDatabase for a 
custom action Session. That's an oversight that will be easy to fix. If you 
want to get something working temporarily, you can change the internal 
QDatabase constructor to public, rebuild, and then create one like this:
  new QDatabase(session.Database.Handle, false, String.Empty, 
DatabaseOpenMode.ReadOnly);
   
  To query a custom table, just use the indexer on the QDatabase instance: 
qdb[tableName] returns a general-purpose QTableQRecord. Or you can create 
your own custom QRecord subclass (like the ones in Entities.cs) and create and 
run queries on a QTableYourCustomRecord
   
  -Jason-
   
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:26 AM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

   
If you'd give me some requirements and peer review my work, I'd be willing 
to help contribute the samples as part of my DTF learning process.

 

BTW, I'm refactoring an ExecuteQuery/Scalar pattern I just wrote to LINQ 
and I'm a little confused on how to get from session to QDatabase.  the 
db.InstallExecuteSequences explanation doesn't make sense to me.   ( BTW, my 
query is against a custom table, not a well known table ).

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yes, a VS project template for a managed custom action is something we've 
talked about that would be nice to do. In general I want to work on some richer 
CA samples in the coming months.

 

  From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:39 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX


 

Sorry, one more question.   How do you feel about WiX registering a new 
project type in Visual Studio?   A sample C# class that includes the right 
references and plumbing to build the class and wrap it into a CA package 
assembly?

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  1)  Yes, full support for the new functionality added in MSI 4.5 is 
near the top of my list of things to work on in DTF. I have briefly looked at 
the embedded external-UI feature, and I don't forsee any unusual technical 
challenges to enabling embedded external-UI in managed code.


   


  2)  Oh, I guess that sample code in the doc is out of date. 
Properties are accessed as an indexer directly on the session object. The CHM 
reference topic for the Session class (Item Property) and the actual sample 
ManagedCA project are correct.


   


  3)  DTF samples are included in the WiX sources (src/dtf/Samples) but 
not in WiX3.msi.


   


  4)  Umm, grapefruit juice. Seriously. :)


   


  Thank you for reporting these issues. I hope you find DTF useful.


   


  -Jason-


   


From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:25 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX



   


I have a few other questions for you if you don't mind. 



 



1) Will DTF have support for authoring MSI 4.5 style Embedded External 
UI handlers?



 



2) The Sample C# custom action references a Session.Property[ string 
Property ]  but when 

Re: [WiX-users] finding .net 3.5 or greater

2008-05-19 Thread Don Tasanasanta (Volt)
I already use NETFRAMEWORK35 to determine if .net 3.5 is on the machine... what 
I'm really concerned with is the greater than part.

How do you test against the condition greater than or equal to 3.5

From: Neil Enns
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:38 PM
To: Don Tasanasanta (Volt); wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: finding .net 3.5 or greater

You can use the NetFxExtension that comes with WiX. 
http://www.wixwiki.com/index.php?title=NetFxExtension.

Add -ext WixNetFxExtension to both candle.exe and light.exe, then you can add a 
PropertyRef to NETFRAMEWORK35. There's an example on the above page of how it 
all works.

Neil

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Subject: [WiX-users] finding .net 3.5 or greater

How do you determine whether or not the version of .NET Framework on the 
machine is greater than 3.5?
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[WiX-users] Catching FilesInUse condition during quiet mode upgrade

2008-05-19 Thread Tim Haloun
From my understanding of the documentation here
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369546(VS.85).aspx If you are
doing a quiet install or haven't defined a filesinuse dialog with the
appropriate controls, the default behaviour is equivalent to selecting
ignore.   That is, windows installer overwrites what files it can, renames
and replaces other files, and schedules a reboot.  What I am aiming to do is
instead just fail and exit the installation immediately.
I have conceived a few ways to get around this but I'm not sure if some are
even feasable.

The most straightforward that I can think of is to bump up a UILevel or two
and define my own filesinuse dialog with only an exit ControlEvent defined.
 If I could make it hidden and apply the action immediately that would be
awesome.

Alternatively I could create a CA that rolled back the upgrade conditionally
depending upon ReplacedInUseFiles.  I think this might be set too late in
the sequence though, and I'm not sure how I'd do the rollback anyway.

Third catch INSTALLMESSAGE_FILESINUSE directly and return an error somehow,
which seems very un-Wixy.


Any help appreciated,
Tim
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Re: [WiX-users] finding .net 3.5 or greater

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Painter

It's kind of difficult to test against a future unkown framework because they 
sit side by side and a newer release doesn't always entail a release of the 
CLR.If you care about the CLR version, you could check the FileVersion of 
System32\mscoree.dll.   Other then that, if a BCL extension called 3.6 was to 
get released,  I don't know that there is a good way to detect it without first 
knowing what it would be called.
   
  Maybe I'm missing something that could make this problem easier to solve.
  
Don Tasanasanta (Volt) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I already use NETFRAMEWORK35 to determine if .net 3.5 is on the 
machine… what I’m really concerned with is the “greater than” part. 
   
  How do you test against the condition “greater than or equal to 3.5”
   
  From: Neil Enns 
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:38 PM
To: Don Tasanasanta (Volt); wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: finding .net 3.5 or greater


   
  You can use the NetFxExtension that comes with WiX. 
http://www.wixwiki.com/index.php?title=NetFxExtension.
   
  Add –ext WixNetFxExtension to both candle.exe and light.exe, then you can add 
a PropertyRef to NETFRAMEWORK35. There’s an example on the above page of how it 
all works.
   
  Neil
   
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Tasanasanta (Volt)
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:27 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] finding .net 3.5 or greater


   
  How do you determine whether or not the version of .NET Framework on the 
machine is greater than 3.5?

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Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-19 Thread Jason Ginchereau
The Session.Log() method passes the message string to to 
MsiProcessMessagehttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370354.aspx as the 
format-string (field 0) of a Record, so it gets automatically formatted there. 
To avoid that behavior, you can do something like this:

using (Record rec = new Record(1))
{
rec.FormatString = [1];
rec[1] = msg;
session.Message(InstallMessage.Info, rec);
}

Or you can escape the 
bracketshttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368609.aspx like this:

session.Log(@[\[]Not a property[\]]);


From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:37 AM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

I'm working on a sample for my blog right now.   In doing so, I've noticed 
something.   It seems that session.Log() method automatically formats the text. 
  For example I want to do something like

// Property A = 21
// Property B = 2
string expression = [A]*[B]; //Really comes from table data
session.Log( MyCA: Found Expression:  + expression );
string formattedExpression = session.Format( expression );
session.Log (MyCa: Expression Formats as:  + formattedExpression );

But when I look at my logfile, both lines say  21*2 instead of [A]*[B] and 21*2.

Make sense?  I'm wondering if there is a way to log the data found without 
formatting it.




Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, a VS project template for a managed custom action is something we've 
talked about that would be nice to do. In general I want to work on some richer 
CA samples in the coming months.

From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:39 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

Sorry, one more question.   How do you feel about WiX registering a new project 
type in Visual Studio?   A sample C# class that includes the right references 
and plumbing to build the class and wrap it into a CA package assembly?

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1)  Yes, full support for the new functionality added in MSI 4.5 is near 
the top of my list of things to work on in DTF. I have briefly looked at the 
embedded external-UI feature, and I don't forsee any unusual technical 
challenges to enabling embedded external-UI in managed code.

2)  Oh, I guess that sample code in the doc is out of date. Properties are 
accessed as an indexer directly on the session object. The CHM reference topic 
for the Session class (Item Property) and the actual sample ManagedCA project 
are correct.

3)  DTF samples are included in the WiX sources (src/dtf/Samples) but not 
in WiX3.msi.

4)  Umm, grapefruit juice. Seriously. :)

Thank you for reporting these issues. I hope you find DTF useful.

-Jason-

From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:25 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

I have a few other questions for you if you don't mind.

1) Will DTF have support for authoring MSI 4.5 style Embedded External UI 
handlers?

2) The Sample C# custom action references a Session.Property[ string Property ] 
 but when I add the reference and using statement I get an error that that 
Session doesn't have a definition for Property.  Am I pulling in the wrong 
reference or something?

3) The CHM topic references a Samples\ManagedCA directory. I don't see it?

4)  What's your favorite beverage?



Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks like Errors.resources.resources got ignored by by the zip which is 
supposed to pickup all the sources, because of the .resources file extension. 
I'll fix it for the next build.

Meanwhile you can create that file by running resgen.exe on Errors.txt. (I 
should probably make that happen during the project build anyway.) Or you can 
build without it, but you'll get resource exceptions instead of error messages 
if you encounter any errors in cabinet creation/extraction.

-Jason-

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Painter
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

I also pulled the sources but I can't get the Compression.Cab project in the 
DTF solution to build.  It's missing the file Errors.resources.resources file.  
If I exclude it from the project it seems to build fine though.

Christopher Painter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm was reading DTF.chm and it looks really fabulous.  I want to play with it 
right now but I don't see MakeSfxCA.exe.  Am I missing something?



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Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Painter
Thanks.  In my case I was trying to log table data queried before and after 
formatting for debugging purposes.  Do you think others might have a similar 
need?  If so, do you think an overload for Log to disable formatting could be a 
good thing?
  

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Session.Log() method passes the message string to to 
MsiProcessMessage as the format-string (field 0) of a Record, so it gets 
automatically formatted there. To avoid that behavior, you can do something 
like this: 
   
  using (Record rec = new Record(1))
  {
  rec.FormatString = [1];
  rec[1] = msg;
  session.Message(InstallMessage.Info, rec);
  }
   
  Or you can escape the brackets like this:
   
  session.Log(@[\[]Not a property[\]]);
   
   
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:37 AM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

   
I'm working on a sample for my blog right now.   In doing so, I've noticed 
something.   It seems that session.Log() method automatically formats the text. 
  For example I want to do something like

 

// Property A = 21

// Property B = 2

string expression = [A]*[B]; //Really comes from table data

session.Log( MyCA: Found Expression:  + expression );

string formattedExpression = session.Format( expression );

session.Log (MyCa: Expression Formats as:  + formattedExpression );

 

But when I look at my logfile, both lines say  21*2 instead of [A]*[B] and 
21*2.

 

Make sense?  I'm wondering if there is a way to log the data found without 
formatting it.

 

 



Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yes, a VS project template for a managed custom action is something we've 
talked about that would be nice to do. In general I want to work on some richer 
CA samples in the coming months.

 

  From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:39 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX


 

Sorry, one more question.   How do you feel about WiX registering a new 
project type in Visual Studio?   A sample C# class that includes the right 
references and plumbing to build the class and wrap it into a CA package 
assembly?

Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  1)  Yes, full support for the new functionality added in MSI 4.5 is 
near the top of my list of things to work on in DTF. I have briefly looked at 
the embedded external-UI feature, and I don't forsee any unusual technical 
challenges to enabling embedded external-UI in managed code.


   


  2)  Oh, I guess that sample code in the doc is out of date. 
Properties are accessed as an indexer directly on the session object. The CHM 
reference topic for the Session class (Item Property) and the actual sample 
ManagedCA project are correct.


   


  3)  DTF samples are included in the WiX sources (src/dtf/Samples) but 
not in WiX3.msi.


   


  4)  Umm, grapefruit juice. Seriously. :)


   


  Thank you for reporting these issues. I hope you find DTF useful.


   


  -Jason-


   


From: Christopher Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:25 PM
To: Jason Ginchereau; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX



   


I have a few other questions for you if you don't mind. 



 



1) Will DTF have support for authoring MSI 4.5 style Embedded External 
UI handlers?



 



2) The Sample C# custom action references a Session.Property[ string 
Property ]  but when I add the reference and using statement I get an error 
that that Session doesn't have a definition for Property.  Am I pulling in the 
wrong reference or something?



 



3) The CHM topic references a Samples\ManagedCA directory. I don't see 
it?



 



4)  What's your favorite beverage?



 





Jason Ginchereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  Looks like Errors.resources.resources got ignored by by the zip which 
is supposed to pickup all the sources, because of the .resources file 
extension. I'll fix it for the next build.



 



Meanwhile you can create that file by running resgen.exe on Errors.txt. 
(I should probably make that happen during the project build anyway.) Or you 
can build without it, but you'll get resource exceptions instead of error 
messages if you encounter any errors in cabinet creation/extraction.



 



-Jason-



 



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Christopher Painter
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 

Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper Guidence

2008-05-19 Thread dB.
We've settled on dotNetInstaller -
http://www.devage.com/Wiki/ViewArticle.aspx?name=dotnetinstallerversion
=0. Works well. I also have developers adding some small features to it
(mixed-mode download, 64bit), silent install.

 

Cheers

dB.

 

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Payne
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:10 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper Guidence

 

I need to create a bootstrapper that will both download/inslall .NET
Framework 2.0 and launch my MSI setup properly for minor upgrades.  

So far I've created a setup.exe with Bootstrapper Manifest Generator
that handles the prereq very nicely, but not the minor upgrade.  And
from what i've seen, it looks like setupbld will properly handle the
upgrade, but I don't see how to add prerequisites.

Can someone get me pointed in the right direction on the best way to
handle this?

Thank you,

-- steve

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Re: [WiX-users] really slow using pyro

2008-05-19 Thread Kelly Leahy
1. ok.. I'll bite.  How would I override the default BinderFileManager in 
an extension?  Can you point me at an extension that overrides a part of 
the WiX system in a way that is similar to what I'd have to do?
2. How can I use the pdb instead?  Is there a cmdline argument to pyro for 
that?

Kelly




Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

05/15/2008 08:54 PM

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“safe” is one way to look at it.  “correct” is another.  smile/
 
We can look at adding a switch to make it easy, but you can actually get 
what you want right now.  You could implement an extension that overrides 
the default “BinderFileManager” and implement the CompareFiles() method 
using the method you describe.  You can see the default BinderFileManager 
does a byte by byte comparison.
 
Also, I noticed that you were using .wixouts to build your patch.  I would 
recommend using the .wixpdb instead.  That will actually have all the 
necessary information to get much faster comparison (when the switch is 
finally implemented).
 
From: Kelly Leahy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 20:33
To: Rob Mensching
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net; 
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Subject: RE: [WiX-users] really slow using pyro
 

I'm a bit suprised that it is doing this comparison for every file.  Is it 
just to be safe?  Could we add a switch that allowed it to do slightly 
less safe comparisons (i.e. I can guarantee that if two files have the 
same date, size, and name, that their contents are the same (or at least 
I'm willing to take that risk)). 

Wouldn't that speed up comparisons considerably? 

Kelly 



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05/15/2008 08:19 PM 


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I talked to Peter.  For a product with ~2,000 - 3,000 files 10 minutes is 
reasonable.  Pyro is diffing all of the files in your product looking for 
different ones and that takes time. 
  
I noticed that you are using Includes all over the place.  Instead, you 
could use Fragments and get improvements in the compile steps and also do 
filtering at the Fragment level during patching. 
  
From: Kelly Leahy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: Rob Mensching
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Subject: Re: [WiX-users] really slow using pyro 
  

10 minutes running pyro, 2 minutes running the 'light' command line that 
builds the original msi's. 

Were you able to get the makefile, or do you want me to paste the command 
lines into an email for you? 

Kelly 

Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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One more question:  can you give me an idea of the time spent building MSI 
vs. building MSP?  Basically, I’m looking for a bit more details about 
what “long time” means.  smile/ 
 
I’m not the patching expert but Peter is back from vacation and I’ll make 
sure he gets this thread tonight. 
 
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To: Rob Mensching
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Sorry, I was braindead last night and it didn't even occur to me that 
knowing the version and what I'm doing might be useful information :( 

0. tried that - didn't seem to tell me much of anything. 
1. 3.0.3419 - I'll try a newer build today. 
2. pyro Update1\Build\USA\Patch.wixmsp -out Update1\Build\USA\Patch.msp -t 
mgalfa Update1\Build\USA\DiffRTM.wixmst 
 (entire makefile is attached) 
3. all files are local 

other info: 
running Vista x64 Business on a quad-core machine with 4gb RAM and 
mirrored HDDs using hardware RAID. 
not much else going on while building (I've been giving it the full 
machine). 

Patch.wxs file, Product.wxs file, .wxi's, and makefile attached.  The 
wixproj contains the RTM folder's contents.  The Update1 folder mentioned 
in the makefile is nearly identical, with only differences being in 
content and the definitions in the defines.wxi (also attached here). 


Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated - and if there's anything 
I can do to help repro / debug, I'd be happy to do so, assuming it's 
within my capabilities or relatively close to them. 
Kelly 

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0.  I assume you’ve tried passing the “-v” switch for verbose?  (I’m 

Re: [WiX-users] Running an action *after* rebooting

2008-05-19 Thread Wheeler, Blaine (DSHS/DCS)
Another way is to install your utility with the msi, write a RunOnce
registry key with the command for the utility and then ScheduleReboot.
A dialog explaining the need to reboot to finish is nicer than
ForceReboot

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To: Richard Amos
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Running an action *after* rebooting

Richard Amos wrote:
 I'd like to launch a configuration utility *after* a ScheduleReboot, 
 but, as the ScheduleReboot doesn't have an ID, how to I tell the 
 custom action that launches the utility to run *after* the reboot?

ScheduleReboot schedules a reboot after the setup completes; the setup 
doesn't start back up after reboot. To do that, use ForceReboot (and be 
prepared for irate users).

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Re: [WiX-users] How to let other user can find my program in ARP on Vista?

2008-05-19 Thread Akibo

Thank YOU, Phil! Base on your information, I set ALLUSERS and it work well.
Your solution is what I need.

Akibo.



Wilson, Phil wrote:
 
 You might not have done the installation with the ALLUSERS setting that
 does a per-machine install, so you did a per-user install that only you
 (the installing account) can see.
 
 Phil Wilson
 
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 Subject: [WiX-users] How to let other user can find my program in ARP on
 Vista?
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I install my program with account A, and can see my product name in
 uninstall program on Vista. But account B cannot see this product name
 in
 his control panel/uninstall program. Both account are in administrators
 group.
 
 I check HKLM\\Uninstall. I saw my product key are in
 HKLM\\Uninstall\\[GID]
 but not exist in HKLM\\Uninstall. I saw most other application have a
 registry - HKLM\\Uninstall\\[APP] and put product name in this folder.
 
 Is that root cause? Whether yes or no, how to resolve it with wix?
 
 Will be appreciate for your kindly help.
 
 
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[WiX-users] Interest in a MSI/MSP installer generator based on Wix

2008-05-19 Thread Sandip Ghosh
We have built and used a tool internally that provides a wrapper over 
Wix in MSI/MSP generation for over two years. Spikesource is in the 
business of building and packaging a large number of open source 
components (in the hundreds) and integrating them into application 
infrastructure stacks. On windows each of these open source components 
(e.g. apache, tomcat, jboss, mysql etc) are packaged into MSI files. 
These components can later be updated through MSP or MSI, so making sure 
the MSIs are built with component GUID tracking is an important feature 
in the tool.

I wanted to send out a brief description of what the tool does (or 
intends to do, in some cases) and see if there would be interest in the 
Wix community for such a tool. We would like to open source our tool, if 
it would be useful to others.

*Goal: *
Make it extremely easy to build simple MSI based installers with 
built-in support for most common installation tasks. Support 80% of the 
typical installation tasks through a XML configuration file that does 
not require deep knowledge of windows installer technology. The tool 
will generate  human readable and editable Wix source files, so for 
those 20% cases that are outside the scope of the tool, there should be 
enough Wix code generation to be a good starting point for customization.

If this sounds interesting, please read on :)

*Inputs:* (required ones, there will be a few additional optional ones)
1. Product name
2. Source directories (supports multiple sources) where the deployment 
files are
3. An XML document that specifies configuration information about MSI 
installation features.

*Outputs: *
1. MSI or MSP (will have a few additional required inputs)
2. GUIDs ini file for tracking Component Rules
3. Wix Source Files that the user can edit for further customizations.

*Installation Features Support:
*

  1. Create basic Windows Installers, with WixUI_InstallDir UI, i.e.
 wizard with Welcome, License Agreement, Installation Directory
 selection, Install Confirmation, Installation and Finish pages.   
2. Branding support for customizing Start/Finish and Header banners.
  3. MSP creation support - Pass the source paths to the previous and
 current versions of the product and in the configuration file
 identify the upgrade versioning info, the tool will generate
 temporary MSIs for each version and then merge them into an MSP
 using MsiMsp.exe
  4. Package installation files from source directories with MSI
 Component GUID tracking support - Component GUID tracking is
 implemented by creating an entry in the ini file for each
 subdirectory traversed with a sub-directory path to GUID mapping
 the first time the tool is run for a product. This ini file should
 be under source control and subsequent MSI creation for the same
 product should make this ini file available to the tool. It will
 generate the MSI reading the GUIDs from the ini file.
  5. Common Public MSI Property support - Create MSI properties for
 common public MSI properties such as ALLUSERS, ARPCOMMENTS,
 ARPREADME, ARPURLINFOABOUT etc based on configuration info provided.
  6. Registry entry creation support - Create registry entries based on
 configuration info provided.
  7. INI/Conf file generation support - Create ini file key-value pairs
 based on configuration info provided.
  8. Shortcut creation support - Create short cuts based on
 configuration info provided.
  9. Service Management  support (install/uninstall/start/stop)
 10. Custom Action support  - callout to user defined executables, bat
 files etc at configurable points during installation sequence
 11. COM DLL Registration support 
*Long Term:*
Support UI code generation, possibly through a visual designer.

The Wix source file generation is performed by substituting variables 
into Wix source templates, the values being extracted from the XML 
configuration file through XPath. The files source generation is by 
traversing the specified source directory, similar to tools like Tallow, 
but with Component GUID tracking. Currently the tool is built around the 
latest stable Wix 2.x build, this can later be upgraded to work with Wix 
3.0

If the question is why another XML Schema to describe installation tasks 
on top of Wix, I see the Wix Schema as being a wrapper over MSI database 
tables and operations on them and requires the developer to know and 
understand the various tables, their columns and what the purpose of 
each of those are. The Schema in the tool, is more functional in nature, 
it captures the installation tasks the developer would like to perform 
through its elements and attributes and does not require the developer 
to know some of the windows installer complexities for simple 
installation scenarios.

Sorry for the long post, if you have gotten here and feel such a tool 
would be useful to you, please let me know directly (no need to spam the 
list). I would