Re: [WiX-users] Changing product name at install time

2012-08-31 Thread Natalie Carr
 No.  The ProductName property is immutable once the installer begins.
 You'd have to do something like asking for the name before starting 
 the install and then dynamically generate and apply a transform for 
 installation.

Hi, would anyone have any examples of this?

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Sent: 31 August 2012 03:13
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Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Changing product name at install time

You can in Bundles though.

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Christopher Painter
chr...@iswix.comwrote:

 No.  The ProductName property is immutable once the installer begins.
 You'd have to do something like asking for the name before starting 
 the install and then dynamically generate and apply a transform for 
 installation.

 
  From: Jain, Mukesh mukeshj...@kpmg.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:07 PM
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Changing product name at install time

 Can we change product name at install time?

 Thanks,
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Re: [WiX-users] Major Upgrade changes requirement

2012-08-31 Thread Peter Hull

 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:03:02 -0400
 From: mukeshj...@kpmg.com
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Major Upgrade changes requirement

 What changes we need to do for Major Upgrade

 Example - Product Code, Package Code, version etc... ??
There's a section in the WiX help file called 'How To: Implement a Major 
Upgrade In Your Installer' which I found very useful. Also the MSDN section is 
good for background:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/aa369786.aspx

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Re: [WiX-users] Changing product name at install time

2012-08-31 Thread Matt O'Connell
That's not what I've found. I've got  a custom action running which 
changes our ProductName at install time in WiX 3.5. It is one our first 
actions in our InstallExecuteSequence and seems to work. All the Actions 
before it need to not reference [ProductName] or else get the 'wrong' 
result. Can you think of something wrong with this or is this not good 
practice for some reason?

On 30/08/2012 23:26, Christopher Painter wrote:
 No.  The ProductName property is immutable once the installer begins.
 You'd have to do something like asking for the name before starting the
 install and then dynamically generate and apply a transform for
 installation.

 
   From: Jain, Mukesh mukeshj...@kpmg.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:07 PM
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Changing product name at install time

 Can we change product name at install time?

 Thanks,
 Mukesh

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[WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

2012-08-31 Thread Natalie Carr
Hi, 

 

I've thought about this a great deal and would like to know some of your
opinions.

 

I'm creating many installers for our company but we don't know some of the
names of the products etc at build time. I was thinking of creating one
generic installer and have the many transform files that would handle the
names, distributor name, version and adding files to be installed etc. Would
like to know if this would be a good idea or not?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Natalie Carr

 

 

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Re: [WiX-users] Changing product name at install time

2012-08-31 Thread Christopher Painter
I remember looking at this many years ago and the observation and consensus 
was that you couldn't change it.  That MSI read it in when it initialized 
and that was that.  Maybe it does warrant reexamining as it'd be useful in 
multiple instance scenarios (think named instances ).

I know the MSDN help topic 
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa370857(v=vs.85).a
spx) says:
 
This property can be changed by a transform.

 Knowing how horribly cryptic the SDK is, the translation has always been  
can be only changed  as it would otherwise be pointless to mention that 
something can be changed by a transform.  Because, well, duh, nearly 
anything can be changed by a transform.


 From: Matt O'Connell techsupport...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:47 AM
To: chr...@iswix.com, General discussion for Windows Installer XML 
toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Changing product name at install time

That's not what I've found. I've got a custom action running which 
changes our ProductName at install time in WiX 3.5. It is one our first 
actions in our InstallExecuteSequence and seems to work. All the Actions 
before it need to not reference [ProductName] or else get the 'wrong' 
result. Can you think of something wrong with this or is this not good 
practice for some reason?

On 30/08/2012 23:26, Christopher Painter wrote:
 No. The ProductName property is immutable once the installer begins.
 You'd have to do something like asking for the name before starting the
 install and then dynamically generate and apply a transform for
 installation.

 
 From: Jain, Mukesh mukeshj...@kpmg.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:07 PM
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Changing product name at install time

 Can we change product name at install time?

 Thanks,
 Mukesh

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Re: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

2012-08-31 Thread Christopher Painter
Are you NC1 on Stack Overflow?


 From: Natalie Carr natalie.c...@measuresoft.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:50 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

Hi, 

I've thought about this a great deal and would like to know some of your
opinions.

I'm creating many installers for our company but we don't know some of the
names of the products etc at build time. I was thinking of creating one
generic installer and have the many transform files that would handle the
names, distributor name, version and adding files to be installed etc. 
Would
like to know if this would be a good idea or not?

Kind Regards,

Natalie Carr


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Re: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

2012-08-31 Thread Natalie Carr
That's me. I'm hoping to recreate what you advised me to do and propose this
as it is a far better option that what I have currently and leaves the
installers to be easily modified for future products. Thanks

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Sent: 31 August 2012 13:26
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.;
wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

Are you NC1 on Stack Overflow?


 From: Natalie Carr natalie.c...@measuresoft.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:50 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

Hi, 

I've thought about this a great deal and would like to know some of your
opinions.

I'm creating many installers for our company but we don't know some of the
names of the products etc at build time. I was thinking of creating one
generic installer and have the many transform files that would handle the
names, distributor name, version and adding files to be installed etc. 
Would
like to know if this would be a good idea or not?

Kind Regards,

Natalie Carr


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Re: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

2012-08-31 Thread Keith.Douglas
I've found it conceptually much simpler (at least at first glance - we're just 
entering beta) to build a front end that generates the WXS files on the fly for 
various things we install (though keeping track of DirectoryRefs and such is a 
pain) and then calls the WiX tools behind the scenes for the user.



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From: Natalie Carr [mailto:natalie.c...@measuresoft.com] 
Sent: August-31-12 5:47 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

Hi, 

 

I've thought about this a great deal and would like to know some of your 
opinions.

 

I'm creating many installers for our company but we don't know some of the 
names of the products etc at build time. I was thinking of creating one generic 
installer and have the many transform files that would handle the names, 
distributor name, version and adding files to be installed etc. Would like to 
know if this would be a good idea or not?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Natalie Carr

 

 

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Re: [WiX-users] dtf in Wix 3.7

2012-08-31 Thread Rob Mensching
See: http://robmensching.com/blog/posts/2012/8/21/Enter-WiX-v3.7-toolset under
New Build System

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Sean Farrow
sean.far...@seanfarrow.co.ukwrote:

 Hi:
 The dtf.chm is in the source zip for 3.7, but does not seem to be in the
 3.7 install or the binary zip, is this being deprecated? If yes in favour
 of what?
 Cheers
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Re: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

2012-08-31 Thread Rob Mensching
I may not fully understand your requirements but I would not push work that
can be done at build time to install time.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:14 AM, keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca wrote:

 I've found it conceptually much simpler (at least at first glance - we're
 just entering beta) to build a front end that generates the WXS files on
 the fly for various things we install (though keeping track of
 DirectoryRefs and such is a pain) and then calls the WiX tools behind the
 scenes for the user.



 Keith Douglas
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 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca
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 -Original Message-
 From: Natalie Carr [mailto:natalie.c...@measuresoft.com]
 Sent: August-31-12 5:47 AM
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

 Hi,



 I've thought about this a great deal and would like to know some of your
 opinions.



 I'm creating many installers for our company but we don't know some of the
 names of the products etc at build time. I was thinking of creating one
 generic installer and have the many transform files that would handle the
 names, distributor name, version and adding files to be installed etc.
 Would like to know if this would be a good idea or not?



 Kind Regards,



 Natalie Carr






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Re: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

2012-08-31 Thread Natalie Carr
Hi, yes I am just going to use transforms to change product name, manufacturer 
name, etc. Is there issues between GUID's in transforms?

Thanks Rob


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Sent: 31 August 2012 15:46
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

I may not fully understand your requirements but I would not push work that can 
be done at build time to install time.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:14 AM, keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca wrote:

 I've found it conceptually much simpler (at least at first glance - 
 we're just entering beta) to build a front end that generates the WXS 
 files on the fly for various things we install (though keeping track 
 of DirectoryRefs and such is a pain) and then calls the WiX tools 
 behind the scenes for the user.



 Keith Douglas
 Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 
 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 
 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-951-4405 
 Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-1966 Government of Canada | 
 Gouvernement du Canada


 -Original Message-
 From: Natalie Carr [mailto:natalie.c...@measuresoft.com]
 Sent: August-31-12 5:47 AM
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

 Hi,



 I've thought about this a great deal and would like to know some of 
 your opinions.



 I'm creating many installers for our company but we don't know some of 
 the names of the products etc at build time. I was thinking of 
 creating one generic installer and have the many transform files that 
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 installed etc.
 Would like to know if this would be a good idea or not?



 Kind Regards,



 Natalie Carr






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Re: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

2012-08-31 Thread Hoover, Jacob
  Assuming you want them to be able to install multiple instances of the same 
MSI with different destination folders, then you would want to look at the 
MultiInstance=yes attribute on components. I know I had suggested a patch a 
while back to allow for some better handing 
(http://wix.codeplex.com/SourceControl/network/forks/jchoover/Instances ) 
though I don't think this was ever implemented in the mainline as 
multi-instancing is fairly uncommon and the demand was low.


-Original Message-
From: Natalie Carr [mailto:natalie.c...@measuresoft.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 11:22 AM
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

Hi, yes I am just going to use transforms to change product name, manufacturer 
name, etc. Is there issues between GUID's in transforms?

Thanks Rob


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From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
Sent: 31 August 2012 15:46
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

I may not fully understand your requirements but I would not push work that can 
be done at build time to install time.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:14 AM, keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca wrote:

 I've found it conceptually much simpler (at least at first glance - 
 we're just entering beta) to build a front end that generates the WXS 
 files on the fly for various things we install (though keeping track 
 of DirectoryRefs and such is a pain) and then calls the WiX tools 
 behind the scenes for the user.



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 -Original Message-
 From: Natalie Carr [mailto:natalie.c...@measuresoft.com]
 Sent: August-31-12 5:47 AM
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Transforms and 1 generic installer

 Hi,



 I've thought about this a great deal and would like to know some of 
 your opinions.



 I'm creating many installers for our company but we don't know some of 
 the names of the products etc at build time. I was thinking of 
 creating one generic installer and have the many transform files that 
 would handle the names, distributor name, version and adding files to be 
 installed etc.
 Would like to know if this would be a good idea or not?



 Kind Regards,



 Natalie Carr






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