Re: [WiX-users] Any interest in a beginner's tutorial?

2007-04-20 Thread Sandeep . Baweja
Gabor,

This is a great idea because this way information stays in one place and 
is more easily accessible to all. If you and Rennie could collaborate on 
this, the community stands to benefit.

Just a suggestion.

Sandeep
 





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Sandeep,

> The "official" tutorial is an excellent resource but does not cover
> this area comprehensively.

I don't want to say even a single word against a parallel tutorial, of 
course, but I'm more than willing to accept any contributions or additions 
into the existing one if anybody feels so.

Bye,
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[WiX-users] Any interest in a beginner's tutorial?

2007-04-20 Thread DE�K JAHN, G�bor
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:52:42 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sandeep,

> The "official" tutorial is an excellent resource but does not cover
> this area comprehensively.

I don't want to say even a single word against a parallel tutorial, of course, 
but I'm more than willing to accept any contributions or additions into the 
existing one if anybody feels so.

Bye,
   Gábor

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Re: [WiX-users] Any interest in a beginner's tutorial?

2007-04-20 Thread Matthew Janulewicz
Not trying to steal any thunder or business, and competition is good,
but there is a most excellent open source project called WixEdit that
has a dialog editor in it. It now supports Wix 3.0 (and extensions) and
is simple/graphical enough for a beginner to start using. I haven't a
clue how to internationalize an installer so I didn't know where to
start looking in WixEdit for that kind of stuff.

 

I used it to make all our initial installers and still break it out once
in a while when I need to do something I don't know how to do, or
Intellisense doesn't make sense. It's saved me a lot of time, especially
at the beginning of my Wix life:

 

http://wixedit.sourceforge.net/

 

 

-Matt

 

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Daryn Mitchell
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wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Any interest in a beginner's tutorial?

 

We (me and the company that I work for) are in the process of making a
setup tool (like InstallShield but laid out much better) that generates
WiX (3.0) files and then builds with candle and light. It generates 100%
pure WiX and has a visual interface as well as a full dialog editor. The
way that we have handled the UI makes creating dialogs and changing
dialog sequences and logic easy(er). I think it will be a great tool for
those wanting to use WiX but not wanting to learn all of its nuances
before getting up and running like you guys.

 

I do plan on opening our private beta to the WiX mailing list if the
interest is there. This is not intended to be a spam or shameless plug,
I just see a lot of WiX users expressing (directly or indirectly) this
sentiment and I just want to let you know that a solution is in the
works. I will say up front that it will be a commercial tool, but we
will be giving lots of free licenses away to those who help us with
testing, etc.

 

I will post an announcement to the list when we open beta testing
(within a few weeks).

 

- Brett

 


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Rennie, 

Like Daryn, I am also a developer who has occasionally done
setup. I have used WiX and InstallShield. 
I would also be interested in a tutorial that explains in
greater detail custom dialogs and localization. I found not found any
decent documentation in this area. 
 I would almost always choose 
WiX over other install tools (based on my limited experience
with the two mentioned above) if this area of WiX was well documented. 
 The "official" tutorial is an excellent resource but does not 
cover this area comprehensively. 

Thanks, 

Sandeep 







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Rennie,

I'd be very happy to see a more beginner-oriented tutorial to
help with
getting started. I'm currently evaluating whether to switch from
InstallShield to WiX, and there are still things I have not yet
got
running/tested in WiX.

I'm a software developers who happen to also do setup -- as
opposed to a
hardcore setup guy. I think people like me who are considering
WiX could
certainly benefit from a tutorial focused on guiding beginners
through a
smaller set of tasks that would be found in a typical 'simple'
installation.

Your mention of dialog boxes and localization touches on the
area that is
causing my current pause: customizing the UI, which seems to
have a steep
initial learning curve... to an InstallShield user :)

Daryn.



-Original Message-
From: Rennie Petersen

[...] is there really any interest in yet another WiX
tutorial? Mine is more introductory than the current "official"
one,
covers only the basic features in WiX, but does cover a few
things like
creating your own dialog boxes and localization more
comprehensively.






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Re: [WiX-users] Any interest in a beginner's tutorial?

2007-04-20 Thread Brett Kapilik
We (me and the company that I work for) are in the process of making a
setup tool (like InstallShield but laid out much better) that generates
WiX (3.0) files and then builds with candle and light. It generates 100%
pure WiX and has a visual interface as well as a full dialog editor. The
way that we have handled the UI makes creating dialogs and changing
dialog sequences and logic easy(er). I think it will be a great tool for
those wanting to use WiX but not wanting to learn all of its nuances
before getting up and running like you guys.
 
I do plan on opening our private beta to the WiX mailing list if the
interest is there. This is not intended to be a spam or shameless plug,
I just see a lot of WiX users expressing (directly or indirectly) this
sentiment and I just want to let you know that a solution is in the
works. I will say up front that it will be a commercial tool, but we
will be giving lots of free licenses away to those who help us with
testing, etc.
 
I will post an announcement to the list when we open beta testing
(within a few weeks).
 
- Brett


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Rennie, 

Like Daryn, I am also a developer who has occasionally done
setup. I have used WiX and InstallShield. 
I would also be interested in a tutorial that explains in
greater detail custom dialogs and localization. I found not found any
decent documentation in this area. 
 I would almost always choose 
WiX over other install tools (based on my limited experience
with the two mentioned above) if this area of WiX was well documented. 
 The "official" tutorial is an excellent resource but does not 
cover this area comprehensively. 

Thanks, 

Sandeep 







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04/20/2007 09:36 AM 

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Rennie,

I'd be very happy to see a more beginner-oriented tutorial to
help with
getting started. I'm currently evaluating whether to switch from
InstallShield to WiX, and there are still things I have not yet
got
running/tested in WiX.

I'm a software developers who happen to also do setup -- as
opposed to a
hardcore setup guy. I think people like me who are considering
WiX could
certainly benefit from a tutorial focused on guiding beginners
through a
smaller set of tasks that would be found in a typical 'simple'
installation.

Your mention of dialog boxes and localization touches on the
area that is
causing my current pause: customizing the UI, which seems to
have a steep
initial learning curve... to an InstallShield user :)

Daryn.



-Original Message-
From: Rennie Petersen

[...] is there really any interest in yet another WiX
tutorial? Mine is more introductory than the current "official"
one,
covers only the basic features in WiX, but does cover a few
things like
creating your own dialog boxes and localization more
comprehensively.






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Re: [WiX-users] Any interest in a beginner's tutorial?

2007-04-20 Thread Sandeep . Baweja
Rennie,

Like Daryn, I am also a developer who has occasionally done setup. I have 
used WiX and InstallShield.
I would also be interested in a tutorial that explains in greater detail 
custom dialogs and localization. I found not found any decent 
documentation in this area.
 I would almost always choose 
WiX over other install tools (based on my limited experience with the two 
mentioned above) if this area of WiX was well documented.
 The "official" tutorial is an excellent resource but does not 
cover this area comprehensively.

Thanks,

Sandeep







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Rennie,

I'd be very happy to see a more beginner-oriented tutorial to help with
getting started. I'm currently evaluating whether to switch from
InstallShield to WiX, and there are still things I have not yet got
running/tested in WiX.

I'm a software developers who happen to also do setup -- as opposed to a
hardcore setup guy. I think people like me who are considering WiX could
certainly benefit from a tutorial focused on guiding beginners through a
smaller set of tasks that would be found in a typical 'simple' 
installation.

Your mention of dialog boxes and localization touches on the area that is
causing my current pause: customizing the UI, which seems to have a steep
initial learning curve... to an InstallShield user :)

Daryn.


 
-Original Message-
From: Rennie Petersen

[...] is there really any interest in yet another WiX
tutorial? Mine is more introductory than the current "official" one,
covers only the basic features in WiX, but does cover a few things like
creating your own dialog boxes and localization more comprehensively.




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Re: [WiX-users] Any interest in a beginner's tutorial?

2007-04-20 Thread Daryn Mitchell

Rennie,

I'd be very happy to see a more beginner-oriented tutorial to help with
getting started. I'm currently evaluating whether to switch from
InstallShield to WiX, and there are still things I have not yet got
running/tested in WiX.

I'm a software developers who happen to also do setup -- as opposed to a
hardcore setup guy. I think people like me who are considering WiX could
certainly benefit from a tutorial focused on guiding beginners through a
smaller set of tasks that would be found in a typical 'simple' installation.

Your mention of dialog boxes and localization touches on the area that is
causing my current pause: customizing the UI, which seems to have a steep
initial learning curve... to an InstallShield user :)

Daryn.


 
-Original Message-
From: Rennie Petersen

[...] is there really any interest in yet another WiX
tutorial? Mine is more introductory than the current "official" one,
covers only the basic features in WiX, but does cover a few things like
creating your own dialog boxes and localization more comprehensively.




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Re: [WiX-users] Any interest in a beginner's tutorial?

2007-04-20 Thread Rennie Petersen
> Can you send a link to that tutorial?

Thanks for your interest.

My WiX tutorial not currently on-line, and it would involve some work to
place it on-line (formatting web pages, copying sample files, etc.)

So I'll ask again, is there really any interest in yet another WiX
tutorial? Mine is more introductory than the current "official" one,
covers only the basic features in WiX, but does cover a few things like
creating your own dialog boxes and localization more comprehensively.

Rennie
 

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Nathan Stohlmann
> Sent: 19. april 2007 17:34
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Dialog Editor
> 
> >From playing around with it for 15min, SharpDevelop seems like a
> pretty decent recommendation. Can you send a link to that tutorial?
> 
> 
> On 4/19/07, Rennie Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I use SharpDevelop 2.1. Its dialog editor works fairly well 
> with WiX 
> > dialogs. Just be aware that all comments are deleted. :-(
> >
> > There's also an open source program called WiXEdit. I tried 
> it out but 
> > ran into problems.
> >
> > I've made a simple "beginner's tutorial" for using WiX (with 
> > SharpDevelop). It's more basic than the "official" tutorial 
> and covers 
> > much less of WiX, but in more detail. If people on this forum think 
> > there's a need for something like this I could publish it.
> >
> > Rennie
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
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> > > Anthony Wieser
> > > Sent: 19. april 2007 11:26
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> > > Subject: [WiX-users] Dialog Editor
> > >
> > > I thought I once saw a tool that could decompile .rc or 
> .res files 
> > > from visual studio, and produce WiX dialogs.  However, I 
> can't find 
> > > any information on where this was.
> > >
> > > Was I imagining it, or could one of you kind people point 
> me in the 
> > > right direction.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Anthony Wieser
> > > Wieser Software Ltd
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