Re: [WiX-users] Changing the Windows Service name on an upgrade

2011-11-12 Thread Deepa Choundappan
I fixed my problem ( looking at the msi install log helped because I
realized that the old service was removed and then being added). In
addition to the ServiceControl node that i added below - I also had a
ServiceInstall node. I needed to take that out to get the behavior that I
wanted.

Thanks
Deepa

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Deepa Choundappan deepa...@gmail.comwrote:

 I should add that when I uninstall my new msi - both services are removed.


 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Deepa Choundappan deepa...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks ! You did give me a pointer as to how to do this but I did not get
 there all the way. I added a new ServiceControl node with the old Service
 name ( and a new component Guid). But what I found was that it definitely
 did stop the old service but did not delete it. I have both the Remove and
 Stop properties set to both. Any idea what else I am missing ?


 ServiceControl Id=Id_AgentHostServiceControlPrev
 Name =$(var.agentHostServiceNamePrevious)
 Remove=both
 Stop=both
 Wait=yes
 /

 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Wilson, Phil 
 phil.wil...@invensys.comwrote:

 If it's an upgrade, you can just uninstall the old service and install
 it again with your new name. Change the Component guid for the service
 component and that just works. I don't know of anything that will just
 change the name that's supported by MSI.

 The ServiceControl stuff lets you say you want to stop a service during
 an install, maybe that's what you should look at. Also specify start at
  install to start it (later) during the install. Services don't normally
 prompt files in use dialogs AFAIK - is the service associated with a tray
 app or something like that?  Also behavior changes pre and post Vista, when
 Restart Manager was introduced and the in-use detection algorithms changed.

 Phil Wilson

 -Original Message-
 From: Deepa Choundappan [mailto:deepa...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:34 PM
 To: WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Changing the Windows Service name on an upgrade

 Hi -
 Our original version of the msi installed a service like Service
 Preview
 - I now need to change this to Service on a subsequent install.

 On an upgrade - I hit a Files In Use box which sayd The following
 applications are using files which the installer must update. You can
 either close the applications and click Try Again, or click Continue
 so
 that the installaer continues the installation, and replaces these files
 when you system restarts.

 What can I do so that the install can correctly detect that there is
 only a
 name change or perhaps shutdown the old service itself before
 continuining
 with the installation?

 --
 Regards
 Deepa

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[WiX-users] Changing the Windows Service name on an upgrade

2011-11-11 Thread Deepa Choundappan
Hi -
Our original version of the msi installed a service like Service Preview
- I now need to change this to Service on a subsequent install.

On an upgrade - I hit a Files In Use box which sayd The following
applications are using files which the installer must update. You can
either close the applications and click Try Again, or click Continue so
that the installaer continues the installation, and replaces these files
when you system restarts.

What can I do so that the install can correctly detect that there is only a
name change or perhaps shutdown the old service itself before continuining
with the installation?

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Re: [WiX-users] Changing the Windows Service name on an upgrade

2011-11-11 Thread Wilson, Phil
If it's an upgrade, you can just uninstall the old service and install it again 
with your new name. Change the Component guid for the service component and 
that just works. I don't know of anything that will just change the name that's 
supported by MSI. 

The ServiceControl stuff lets you say you want to stop a service during an 
install, maybe that's what you should look at. Also specify start at  install 
to start it (later) during the install. Services don't normally prompt files 
in use dialogs AFAIK - is the service associated with a tray app or something 
like that?  Also behavior changes pre and post Vista, when Restart Manager was 
introduced and the in-use detection algorithms changed. 

Phil Wilson 

-Original Message-
From: Deepa Choundappan [mailto:deepa...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:34 PM
To: WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Changing the Windows Service name on an upgrade

Hi -
Our original version of the msi installed a service like Service Preview
- I now need to change this to Service on a subsequent install.

On an upgrade - I hit a Files In Use box which sayd The following
applications are using files which the installer must update. You can
either close the applications and click Try Again, or click Continue so
that the installaer continues the installation, and replaces these files
when you system restarts.

What can I do so that the install can correctly detect that there is only a
name change or perhaps shutdown the old service itself before continuining
with the installation?

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Re: [WiX-users] Changing the Windows Service name on an upgrade

2011-11-11 Thread Deepa Choundappan
Thanks ! You did give me a pointer as to how to do this but I did not get
there all the way. I added a new ServiceControl node with the old Service
name ( and a new component Guid). But what I found was that it definitely
did stop the old service but did not delete it. I have both the Remove and
Stop properties set to both. Any idea what else I am missing ?


ServiceControl Id=Id_AgentHostServiceControlPrev
Name =$(var.agentHostServiceNamePrevious)
Remove=both
Stop=both
Wait=yes
/

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Wilson, Phil phil.wil...@invensys.comwrote:

 If it's an upgrade, you can just uninstall the old service and install it
 again with your new name. Change the Component guid for the service
 component and that just works. I don't know of anything that will just
 change the name that's supported by MSI.

 The ServiceControl stuff lets you say you want to stop a service during an
 install, maybe that's what you should look at. Also specify start at
  install to start it (later) during the install. Services don't normally
 prompt files in use dialogs AFAIK - is the service associated with a tray
 app or something like that?  Also behavior changes pre and post Vista, when
 Restart Manager was introduced and the in-use detection algorithms changed.

 Phil Wilson

 -Original Message-
 From: Deepa Choundappan [mailto:deepa...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:34 PM
 To: WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Changing the Windows Service name on an upgrade

 Hi -
 Our original version of the msi installed a service like Service Preview
 - I now need to change this to Service on a subsequent install.

 On an upgrade - I hit a Files In Use box which sayd The following
 applications are using files which the installer must update. You can
 either close the applications and click Try Again, or click Continue so
 that the installaer continues the installation, and replaces these files
 when you system restarts.

 What can I do so that the install can correctly detect that there is only a
 name change or perhaps shutdown the old service itself before continuining
 with the installation?

 --
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 Deepa

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Re: [WiX-users] Changing the Windows Service name on an upgrade

2011-11-11 Thread Deepa Choundappan
I should add that when I uninstall my new msi - both services are removed.

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Deepa Choundappan deepa...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks ! You did give me a pointer as to how to do this but I did not get
 there all the way. I added a new ServiceControl node with the old Service
 name ( and a new component Guid). But what I found was that it definitely
 did stop the old service but did not delete it. I have both the Remove and
 Stop properties set to both. Any idea what else I am missing ?


 ServiceControl Id=Id_AgentHostServiceControlPrev
 Name =$(var.agentHostServiceNamePrevious)
 Remove=both
 Stop=both
 Wait=yes
 /

 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Wilson, Phil phil.wil...@invensys.comwrote:

 If it's an upgrade, you can just uninstall the old service and install it
 again with your new name. Change the Component guid for the service
 component and that just works. I don't know of anything that will just
 change the name that's supported by MSI.

 The ServiceControl stuff lets you say you want to stop a service during
 an install, maybe that's what you should look at. Also specify start at
  install to start it (later) during the install. Services don't normally
 prompt files in use dialogs AFAIK - is the service associated with a tray
 app or something like that?  Also behavior changes pre and post Vista, when
 Restart Manager was introduced and the in-use detection algorithms changed.

 Phil Wilson

 -Original Message-
 From: Deepa Choundappan [mailto:deepa...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:34 PM
 To: WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Changing the Windows Service name on an upgrade

 Hi -
 Our original version of the msi installed a service like Service Preview
 - I now need to change this to Service on a subsequent install.

 On an upgrade - I hit a Files In Use box which sayd The following
 applications are using files which the installer must update. You can
 either close the applications and click Try Again, or click Continue
 so
 that the installaer continues the installation, and replaces these files
 when you system restarts.

 What can I do so that the install can correctly detect that there is only
 a
 name change or perhaps shutdown the old service itself before continuining
 with the installation?

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 Deepa

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