[WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

2007-03-14 Thread Rory Clark
In the project I'm working on, we've hit a pain point and we're not
certain how to overcome it.  Right now if we want to do an upgrade, the
user has to uninstall before installing the new version.
 
I am sure this has to be possible, I just need some pointers on the how
to side of things.
 
Thanks!
Rory
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Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

2007-03-14 Thread Levi Wilson

Does it complain about a different version of the product already being
installed?  If so, you need to install the MSI via the msiexec.exe command
like this:

msiexec.exe /I your_msi.msi REINSTALL=All REINSTALLMODE=vomus

On 3/14/07, Rory Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 In the project I'm working on, we've hit a pain point and we're not
certain how to overcome it.  Right now if we want to do an upgrade, the user
has to uninstall before installing the new version.

I am sure this has to be possible, I just need some pointers on the how
to side of things.

Thanks!
Rory

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Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

2007-03-14 Thread Rory Clark
That solved the short term problem, but isn't a long term solution.
Looks like I need to do a lot more research and a lot more reading.
 
Thanks!
Rory



From: Levi Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:39 AM
To: Rory Clark
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.


Does it complain about a different version of the product already being
installed?  If so, you need to install the MSI via the msiexec.exe
command like this:

msiexec.exe /I your_msi.msi REINSTALL=All REINSTALLMODE=vomus 


On 3/14/07, Rory Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

In the project I'm working on, we've hit a pain point and we're
not certain how to overcome it.  Right now if we want to do an upgrade,
the user has to uninstall before installing the new version.
 
I am sure this has to be possible, I just need some pointers on
the how to side of things.
 
Thanks!
Rory



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Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

2007-03-14 Thread Levi Wilson

What are you trying to achieve?  Are you trying to make it so you don't have
to do that from the command-line?  One thing that I think that you can do is
set a property in your wxs file that is:

Property Id=REINSTALLMODE Value=vomus /

If you look at the MSDN documentation for the REINSTALLMODE property, you're
not supposed to put the v in vomus on the initial installation, but I
have never figured out why you're not supposed to do this.

On 3/14/07, Rory Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 That solved the short term problem, but isn't a long term solution.
Looks like I need to do a lot more research and a lot more reading.

Thanks!
Rory

 --
*From:* Levi Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:39 AM
*To:* Rory Clark
*Cc:* wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
*Subject:* Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

Does it complain about a different version of the product already being
installed?  If so, you need to install the MSI via the msiexec.exe command
like this:

msiexec.exe /I your_msi.msi REINSTALL=All REINSTALLMODE=vomus

On 3/14/07, Rory Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  In the project I'm working on, we've hit a pain point and we're not
 certain how to overcome it.  Right now if we want to do an upgrade, the user
 has to uninstall before installing the new version.

 I am sure this has to be possible, I just need some pointers on the how
 to side of things.

 Thanks!
 Rory


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Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

2007-03-14 Thread Richard.Foster
Rory,

 

One thing to be aware of (which caught me, and continues to be a source
of frustration from time to time) is that Windows Installer only looks
at the first 3 parts of the version information.

 

Lesson 4 in the tutorial (http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/lesson4.php)
should offer some assistance too. The thing you need to understand is
the difference between small, minor and major upgrades.

 

Hope this helps,

Regards,

Richard

 



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That solved the short term problem, but isn't a long term solution.
Looks like I need to do a lot more research and a lot more reading.

 

Thanks!

Rory




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Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

2007-03-14 Thread Rob Mensching
There is also the option of major upgrades that don't require command-line 
parameters at all.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:13 PM
To: Rory Clark
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

What are you trying to achieve?  Are you trying to make it so you don't have to 
do that from the command-line?  One thing that I think that you can do is set a 
property in your wxs file that is:

Property Id=REINSTALLMODE Value=vomus /

If you look at the MSDN documentation for the REINSTALLMODE property, you're 
not supposed to put the v in vomus on the initial installation, but I have 
never figured out why you're not supposed to do this.
On 3/14/07, Rory Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That solved the short term problem, but isn't a long term solution.  Looks like 
I need to do a lot more research and a lot more reading.

Thanks!
Rory


From: Levi Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:39 AM
To: Rory Clark
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.
Does it complain about a different version of the product already being 
installed?  If so, you need to install the MSI via the msiexec.exe command like 
this:

msiexec.exe /I your_msi.msi REINSTALL=All REINSTALLMODE=vomus
On 3/14/07, Rory Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the project I'm working on, we've hit a pain point and we're not certain how 
to overcome it.  Right now if we want to do an upgrade, the user has to 
uninstall before installing the new version.

I am sure this has to be possible, I just need some pointers on the how to 
side of things.

Thanks!
Rory

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Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

2007-03-14 Thread Levi Wilson

Rob,
Is there a short answer as to why you're not supposed to set the
REINSTALLMODE property to vomus and just leave it like that?

On 3/14/07, Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 There is also the option of major upgrades that don't require
command-line parameters at all.



*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Levi Wilson
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:13 PM
*To:* Rory Clark
*Cc:* wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
*Subject:* Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.



What are you trying to achieve?  Are you trying to make it so you don't
have to do that from the command-line?  One thing that I *think* that you
can do is set a property in your wxs file that is:

Property Id=REINSTALLMODE Value=vomus /

If you look at the MSDN documentation for the REINSTALLMODE property,
you're not supposed to put the v in vomus on the initial installation,
but I have never figured out why you're not supposed to do this.

On 3/14/07, *Rory Clark* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That solved the short term problem, but isn't a long term solution.  Looks
like I need to do a lot more research and a lot more reading.



Thanks!

Rory


 --

*From:* Levi Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:39 AM
*To:* Rory Clark
*Cc:* wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
*Subject:* Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

Does it complain about a different version of the product already being
installed?  If so, you need to install the MSI via the msiexec.exe command
like this:

msiexec.exe /I your_msi.msi REINSTALL=All REINSTALLMODE=vomus

On 3/14/07, *Rory Clark* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In the project I'm working on, we've hit a pain point and we're not
certain how to overcome it.  Right now if we want to do an upgrade, the user
has to uninstall before installing the new version.



I am sure this has to be possible, I just need some pointers on the how
to side of things.



Thanks!

Rory


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Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

2007-03-14 Thread Rob Mensching
v means any time you do a repair operation with the MSI, that the original 
source media will be required.  Users *hate* that.

From: Levi Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:23 PM
To: Rob Mensching
Cc: Rory Clark; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

Rob,
Is there a short answer as to why you're not supposed to set the REINSTALLMODE 
property to vomus and just leave it like that?
On 3/14/07, Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There is also the option of major upgrades that don't require command-line 
parameters at all.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Levi Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:13 PM

To: Rory Clark
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.



What are you trying to achieve?  Are you trying to make it so you don't have to 
do that from the command-line?  One thing that I think that you can do is set a 
property in your wxs file that is:

Property Id=REINSTALLMODE Value=vomus /

If you look at the MSDN documentation for the REINSTALLMODE property, you're 
not supposed to put the v in vomus on the initial installation, but I have 
never figured out why you're not supposed to do this.

On 3/14/07, Rory Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That solved the short term problem, but isn't a long term solution.  Looks like 
I need to do a lot more research and a lot more reading.



Thanks!

Rory





From: Levi Wilson [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:39 AM
To: Rory Clark
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

Does it complain about a different version of the product already being 
installed?  If so, you need to install the MSI via the msiexec.exe command like 
this:

msiexec.exe /I your_msi.msi REINSTALL=All REINSTALLMODE=vomus

On 3/14/07, Rory Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In the project I'm working on, we've hit a pain point and we're not certain how 
to overcome it.  Right now if we want to do an upgrade, the user has to 
uninstall before installing the new version.



I am sure this has to be possible, I just need some pointers on the how to 
side of things.



Thanks!

Rory

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Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

2007-03-14 Thread Levi Wilson

I thought that the v will run from the source (the msi that you're
currently trying to install) and recache the local copy.  When would it ask
for the source media?

On 3/14/07, Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 v means any time you do a repair operation with the MSI, that the
original source media will be required.  Users **hate** that.



*From:* Levi Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:23 PM
*To:* Rob Mensching
*Cc:* Rory Clark; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
*Subject:* Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.



Rob,
Is there a short answer as to why you're not supposed to set the
REINSTALLMODE property to vomus and just leave it like that?

On 3/14/07, *Rob Mensching* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There is also the option of major upgrades that don't require command-line
parameters at all.



*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Levi Wilson
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:13 PM


*To:* Rory Clark
*Cc:* wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
*Subject:* Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.



What are you trying to achieve?  Are you trying to make it so you don't
have to do that from the command-line?  One thing that I *think* that you
can do is set a property in your wxs file that is:

Property Id=REINSTALLMODE Value=vomus /

If you look at the MSDN documentation for the REINSTALLMODE property,
you're not supposed to put the v in vomus on the initial installation,
but I have never figured out why you're not supposed to do this.

On 3/14/07, *Rory Clark* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That solved the short term problem, but isn't a long term solution.  Looks
like I need to do a lot more research and a lot more reading.



Thanks!

Rory


 --

*From:* Levi Wilson [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:39 AM
*To:* Rory Clark
*Cc:* wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
*Subject:* Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

Does it complain about a different version of the product already being
installed?  If so, you need to install the MSI via the msiexec.exe command
like this:

msiexec.exe /I your_msi.msi REINSTALL=All REINSTALLMODE=vomus

On 3/14/07, *Rory Clark* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In the project I'm working on, we've hit a pain point and we're not
certain how to overcome it.  Right now if we want to do an upgrade, the user
has to uninstall before installing the new version.



I am sure this has to be possible, I just need some pointers on the how
to side of things.



Thanks!

Rory


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Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

2007-03-14 Thread Rob Mensching
You could be right.  I haven't played with setting v all of the time, so I'd 
have to create a few MSI files and do that.

Now that I finally did all the work to show why COM advertisement is bad and 
why ICE33 can be ignored 
(http://robmensching.com/blog/archive/2007/03/12/RobMens-Recommendation-Do-not-advertise-COM-information-in-MSI.aspx)
 maybe I'll try this one... next week.

From: Levi Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:58 PM
To: Rob Mensching
Cc: Rory Clark; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

I thought that the v will run from the source (the msi that you're currently 
trying to install) and recache the local copy.  When would it ask for the 
source media?
On 3/14/07, Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

v means any time you do a repair operation with the MSI, that the original 
source media will be required.  Users *hate* that.



From: Levi Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:23 PM
To: Rob Mensching
Cc: Rory Clark; 
wix-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.



Rob,
Is there a short answer as to why you're not supposed to set the REINSTALLMODE 
property to vomus and just leave it like that?

On 3/14/07, Rob Mensching [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There is also the option of major upgrades that don't require command-line 
parameters at all.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Levi Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:13 PM

To: Rory Clark
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.



What are you trying to achieve?  Are you trying to make it so you don't have to 
do that from the command-line?  One thing that I think that you can do is set a 
property in your wxs file that is:

Property Id=REINSTALLMODE Value=vomus /

If you look at the MSDN documentation for the REINSTALLMODE property, you're 
not supposed to put the v in vomus on the initial installation, but I have 
never figured out why you're not supposed to do this.

On 3/14/07, Rory Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That solved the short term problem, but isn't a long term solution.  Looks like 
I need to do a lot more research and a lot more reading.



Thanks!

Rory





From: Levi Wilson [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:39 AM
To: Rory Clark
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Help with Upgrade scenarios.

Does it complain about a different version of the product already being 
installed?  If so, you need to install the MSI via the msiexec.exe command like 
this:

msiexec.exe /I your_msi.msi REINSTALL=All REINSTALLMODE=vomus

On 3/14/07, Rory Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In the project I'm working on, we've hit a pain point and we're not certain how 
to overcome it.  Right now if we want to do an upgrade, the user has to 
uninstall before installing the new version.



I am sure this has to be possible, I just need some pointers on the how to 
side of things.



Thanks!

Rory

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