Re: [WiX-users] How do setup bootstrappers avoid prompts for media when changing or repairing an existing installation

2009-02-02 Thread John Hall
>1. Can the MSI package be marked in some way so that the 
> complete MSI
>   file (under 5 MBs in my case) is cached by Windows Installer?
>2. Can my setup bootstrapper call some MSI API to make Windows
>   Installer cache the complete package?
>3. Should my setup bootstrapper copy the MSI package to a permanent
>   location on the local computer and perform the installation from
>   there?
>   If so can I prevent the Windows Installer doing it's own caching
>   since the MSI package will always be available on the 
> local computer?
> 
> I would obviously prefer option 1 or 2 or any other similar 
> option that prevents my setup bootstrapper effectively 
> maintaining an MSI cache of its own.  How do you setup 
> bootstrappers, in general, avoid this issue?

Andrew,

I've solved this problem in the bootstrapper. Once the MSI has finished 
installing, I put a copy of the Msi file in a subfolder of my application, and 
then call MsiSourceListAddSource to add that directory to the list of source 
directories for the product. Windows Installer can then find a full copy of the 
MSI, with no prompts.

In my installer I have a RemoveFile and RemoveDirectory element in a component 
to make sure that the MSI gets deleted on uninstall.

Regards,
John
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Re: [WiX-users] How do setup bootstrappers avoid prompts for media when changing or repairing an existing installation

2009-02-02 Thread John Hall

>1. Can the MSI package be marked in some way so that the 
> complete MSI
>   file (under 5 MBs in my case) is cached by Windows Installer?
>2. Can my setup bootstrapper call some MSI API to make Windows
>   Installer cache the complete package?
>3. Should my setup bootstrapper copy the MSI package to a permanent
>   location on the local computer and perform the installation from
>   there?
>   If so can I prevent the Windows Installer doing it's own caching
>   since the MSI package will always be available on the 
> local computer?
> 
> I would obviously prefer option 1 or 2 or any other similar 
> option that prevents my setup bootstrapper effectively 
> maintaining an MSI cache of its own.  How do you setup 
> bootstrappers, in general, avoid this issue?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> Andrew
> 
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Re: [WiX-users] How do setup bootstrappers avoid prompts for media when changing or repairing an existing installation

2009-01-22 Thread Bob Arnson
Andrew Lee wrote:
>1. Can the MSI package be marked in some way so that the complete MSI
>   file (under 5 MBs in my case) is cached by Windows Installer?
>   
No.
>2. Can my setup bootstrapper call some MSI API to make Windows
>   Installer cache the complete package?
>   
No.
>3. Should my setup bootstrapper copy the MSI package to a permanent
>   location on the local computer and perform the installation from
>   there?
>   
Yes. That's what other apps like Office do.
>   If so can I prevent the Windows Installer doing it's own caching
>   since the MSI package will always be available on the local computer?
>   
No. As they're stripped, they're usually small. The exception is if you 
have large files in the Binary table, for example, because that data 
isn't stripped out.

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Re: [WiX-users] How do setup bootstrappers avoid prompts for media when changing or repairing an existing installation

2009-01-22 Thread Rob Mensching
Actually, for Office the media is just copied to the local machine, no 
"extraction" done.  The feature is called "Local Installation Source".  I 
called it "LocalCache" when I wrote it back in 2001-2002.  Plans are to build a 
similar feature in to burn for WiX v3.5.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 07:27
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do setup bootstrappers avoid prompts for media 
when changing or repairing an existing installation

I believe products like Microsoft Office extract the MSI to a folder and leave 
it on your system to allow for changes.

Neil

Neil Sleightholm
X2 Systems Limited
n...@x2systems.com <mailto:n...@x2systems.com>




From: Andrew Lee [mailto:a...@solarflare.com]
Sent: Thu 22/01/2009 13:06
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do setup bootstrappers avoid prompts for media 
when changing or repairing an existing installation



Eric Teutsch wrote:
> All MSI packages are cached my Windows.  See: C:\WINDOWS\Installer
>
Yes I realise that, but the cached package has all embedded files and cabinets 
stripped out to save space.  So when adding a feature to an existing 
installation, the cached package does not include the needed files and the 
installer prompts for the path to the original media.  I want to be able to 
avoid such prompts.

Best regards,


Andrew

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Re: [WiX-users] How do setup bootstrappers avoid prompts for media when changing or repairing an existing installation

2009-01-22 Thread Neil Sleightholm
I believe products like Microsoft Office extract the MSI to a folder and leave 
it on your system to allow for changes. 
 
Neil
 
Neil Sleightholm
X2 Systems Limited
n...@x2systems.com <mailto:n...@x2systems.com> 
 



From: Andrew Lee [mailto:a...@solarflare.com]
Sent: Thu 22/01/2009 13:06
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do setup bootstrappers avoid prompts for media 
when changing or repairing an existing installation



Eric Teutsch wrote:
> All MSI packages are cached my Windows.  See: C:\WINDOWS\Installer
>  
Yes I realise that, but the cached package has all embedded files and
cabinets stripped out to save space.  So when adding a feature to an
existing installation, the cached package does not include the needed
files and the installer prompts for the path to the original media.  I
want to be able to avoid such prompts.

Best regards,


Andrew

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Re: [WiX-users] How do setup bootstrappers avoid prompts for media when changing or repairing an existing installation

2009-01-22 Thread Andrew Lee
Eric Teutsch wrote:
> All MSI packages are cached my Windows.  See: C:\WINDOWS\Installer
>   
Yes I realise that, but the cached package has all embedded files and 
cabinets stripped out to save space.  So when adding a feature to an 
existing installation, the cached package does not include the needed 
files and the installer prompts for the path to the original media.  I 
want to be able to avoid such prompts.

Best regards,


Andrew

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Re: [WiX-users] How do setup bootstrappers avoid prompts for media when changing or repairing an existing installation

2009-01-22 Thread Eric Teutsch
All MSI packages are cached my Windows.  See: C:\WINDOWS\Installer



-Original Message-
From: Andrew Lee [mailto:a...@solarflare.com] 
Sent: January 22, 2009 07:39
To: WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] How do setup bootstrappers avoid prompts for media when
changing or repairing an existing installation

I am using a (custom written) setup bootstrapper with an embedded MSI 
package, the bootstrapper extracts the MSI package to a temporary 
directory, performs the installation and then deletes the temporary 
directory.  When later via Add/Remove Programs I try to add extra 
features or sometimes during a repair the Windows Installer prompts for 
the media with "The feature you are trying to use is on a network 
resource that is unavailable".  Unfortnuately as the MSI package is 
embedded inside my setup bootstrapper I can't provide a valid path to 
Windows Installer at this point.

One potential solution is to mark the package so that Add/Remove 
Programs only offers a remove/uninstall option, but if possible I'd 
prefer to keep the change/modify and repair options.  In trying to 
resolve this I have subsequently read that Windows Installer caches MSI 
packages with any embedded files and cabinets stripped out.

   1. Can the MSI package be marked in some way so that the complete MSI
  file (under 5 MBs in my case) is cached by Windows Installer?
   2. Can my setup bootstrapper call some MSI API to make Windows
  Installer cache the complete package?
   3. Should my setup bootstrapper copy the MSI package to a permanent
  location on the local computer and perform the installation from
  there?
  If so can I prevent the Windows Installer doing it's own caching
  since the MSI package will always be available on the local computer?

I would obviously prefer option 1 or 2 or any other similar option that 
prevents my setup bootstrapper effectively maintaining an MSI cache of 
its own.  How do you setup bootstrappers, in general, avoid this issue?

Best regards,


Andrew

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[WiX-users] How do setup bootstrappers avoid prompts for media when changing or repairing an existing installation

2009-01-22 Thread Andrew Lee
I am using a (custom written) setup bootstrapper with an embedded MSI 
package, the bootstrapper extracts the MSI package to a temporary 
directory, performs the installation and then deletes the temporary 
directory.  When later via Add/Remove Programs I try to add extra 
features or sometimes during a repair the Windows Installer prompts for 
the media with "The feature you are trying to use is on a network 
resource that is unavailable".  Unfortnuately as the MSI package is 
embedded inside my setup bootstrapper I can't provide a valid path to 
Windows Installer at this point.

One potential solution is to mark the package so that Add/Remove 
Programs only offers a remove/uninstall option, but if possible I'd 
prefer to keep the change/modify and repair options.  In trying to 
resolve this I have subsequently read that Windows Installer caches MSI 
packages with any embedded files and cabinets stripped out.

   1. Can the MSI package be marked in some way so that the complete MSI
  file (under 5 MBs in my case) is cached by Windows Installer?
   2. Can my setup bootstrapper call some MSI API to make Windows
  Installer cache the complete package?
   3. Should my setup bootstrapper copy the MSI package to a permanent
  location on the local computer and perform the installation from
  there?
  If so can I prevent the Windows Installer doing it's own caching
  since the MSI package will always be available on the local computer?

I would obviously prefer option 1 or 2 or any other similar option that 
prevents my setup bootstrapper effectively maintaining an MSI cache of 
its own.  How do you setup bootstrappers, in general, avoid this issue?

Best regards,


Andrew

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