Re: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ?
Thanks for reply. The problematic case is when standard MSI FilesInUse check will detect the application but the user will answer Ignore. In such case another FilesInUse dialog will not be correct. Thanks anyway... Stefan Wilson, Phil wrote: But if you're calling it from a custom action, aren't you detecting a FilesInUse condition that the standard one did not detect? I'm not why you'd call it from a CA if MSI is showing FilesInUse when necessary. Phil Wilson -Original Message- -- Stefan Pavlik | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whitestein Technologies | www.whitestein.com Panenska 28 | SK-81103 Bratislava | Slovak Republic Tel +421(2)5930-0735 | Fax +421(2)5443-5512 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ?
Hi list,... Is there a way to determine wheter the system FilesInUse dialog was already displayed (and answered by user) in order to not display it again (from custom action)? I can publish a property from the customized (authored) dialog and check it in th CA. But what about the build-in FilesInUse dialog (during basic UI)? On the other side - I can ommit additional check for FilesInUse when running in basic UI. Thaks in advance... Stefan Pavlik Phil Wilson wrote: Sequence the custom action before files get copied so yes, somewhere early in the sequence is fine. Phil Wilson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Biryukov Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ? It's good, but how to catch file in use moment (before any file copy operation) to show dialog ? Maybe somehow that : InstallExecuteSequence Custom Action=MyFileInUseCheck Before=InstallFiles / /InstallExecuteSequence MyFileInUseCheck is custom action, that check file and show FilesInUse dialog, when file locked. It will work ? -- Alexander Biryukov On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:21:58 +0400, Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FilesInUse dialog can be shown from a custom action with MsiProcessMessage (...INSTALLMESSAGE_FILESINUSE...), this vbscript shows the general idea: option explicit dim inst, rec, res const tryagain=4 const DoExit = 2 const Docontinue =1 set inst = CreateObject(WindowsInstaller.Installer) set rec=inst.CreateRecord (3) rec.StringData(1) = myfile.exe rec.StringData(2) = Please use Task Manager to terminate the program Do res = Session.Message (H0500, rec) ' check for the program terminated loop until res tryagain Phil Wilson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Biryukov Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:19 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ? Greetings all, We need for doing minor upgrades of our software product on servers, that is _not acceptably_ to reboot. Some of upgrades affect on running windows services, but Windows Installer does not show FilesInUse dialog for this, instead show Please reboot at final of installation. In this situation user not be aware that services/files in use and will be updated, for manually prevent reboot. The Windows Installer documentation says : - If you expect the installer to display a FilesInUseDialog, but it does not, this may be due to one of the following reasons: - The files in use are not executables. - The installer is not actually trying to install those files. - The process holding those files is the process invoking the installation. - The process holding those files is one that does not have a window with a title associated with it. - Is exist a way to display FilesInUse dialog (or some custom dialog with file names) always, for _all_ files in use which should be updated ? -- Alexander Biryukov -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEV DEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEV DEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated
Re: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ?
I have already realized that it is not possible to Publish the property from FilesInUse dialog because this dialog is called from InstallExecuteSequence. So I am posting my question again: Is there a way to determine wheter the FilesInUse dialog was already displayed by InstallValidate action (and answered by user) in order to not display it again (from custom action)? Thanks Stefan -- Stefan Pavlik | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whitestein Technologies | www.whitestein.com Panenska 28 | SK-81103 Bratislava | Slovak Republic Tel +421(2)5930-0735 | Fax +421(2)5443-5512 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ?
But if you're calling it from a custom action, aren't you detecting a FilesInUse condition that the standard one did not detect? I'm not why you'd call it from a CA if MSI is showing FilesInUse when necessary. Phil Wilson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stefan Pavlik Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:07 AM To: Stefan Pavlik Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ? I have already realized that it is not possible to Publish the property from FilesInUse dialog because this dialog is called from InstallExecuteSequence. So I am posting my question again: Is there a way to determine wheter the FilesInUse dialog was already displayed by InstallValidate action (and answered by user) in order to not display it again (from custom action)? Thanks Stefan -- Stefan Pavlik | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whitestein Technologies | www.whitestein.com Panenska 28 | SK-81103 Bratislava | Slovak Republic Tel +421(2)5930-0735 | Fax +421(2)5443-5512 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ?
Sequence the custom action before files get copied so yes, somewhere early in the sequence is fine. Phil Wilson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Biryukov Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ? It's good, but how to catch file in use moment (before any file copy operation) to show dialog ? Maybe somehow that : InstallExecuteSequence Custom Action=MyFileInUseCheck Before=InstallFiles / /InstallExecuteSequence MyFileInUseCheck is custom action, that check file and show FilesInUse dialog, when file locked. It will work ? -- Alexander Biryukov On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:21:58 +0400, Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FilesInUse dialog can be shown from a custom action with MsiProcessMessage (...INSTALLMESSAGE_FILESINUSE...), this vbscript shows the general idea: option explicit dim inst, rec, res const tryagain=4 const DoExit = 2 const Docontinue =1 set inst = CreateObject(WindowsInstaller.Installer) set rec=inst.CreateRecord (3) rec.StringData(1) = myfile.exe rec.StringData(2) = Please use Task Manager to terminate the program Do res = Session.Message (H0500, rec) ' check for the program terminated loop until res tryagain Phil Wilson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Biryukov Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:19 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ? Greetings all, We need for doing minor upgrades of our software product on servers, that is _not acceptably_ to reboot. Some of upgrades affect on running windows services, but Windows Installer does not show FilesInUse dialog for this, instead show Please reboot at final of installation. In this situation user not be aware that services/files in use and will be updated, for manually prevent reboot. The Windows Installer documentation says : - If you expect the installer to display a FilesInUseDialog, but it does not, this may be due to one of the following reasons: - The files in use are not executables. - The installer is not actually trying to install those files. - The process holding those files is the process invoking the installation. - The process holding those files is one that does not have a window with a title associated with it. - Is exist a way to display FilesInUse dialog (or some custom dialog with file names) always, for _all_ files in use which should be updated ? -- Alexander Biryukov -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEV DEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEV DEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ?
It's good, but how to catch file in use moment (before any file copy operation) to show dialog ? Maybe somehow that : InstallExecuteSequence Custom Action=MyFileInUseCheck Before=InstallFiles / /InstallExecuteSequence MyFileInUseCheck is custom action, that check file and show FilesInUse dialog, when file locked. It will work ? -- Alexander Biryukov On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:21:58 +0400, Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FilesInUse dialog can be shown from a custom action with MsiProcessMessage (...INSTALLMESSAGE_FILESINUSE...), this vbscript shows the general idea: option explicit dim inst, rec, res const tryagain=4 const DoExit = 2 const Docontinue =1 set inst = CreateObject(WindowsInstaller.Installer) set rec=inst.CreateRecord (3) rec.StringData(1) = myfile.exe rec.StringData(2) = Please use Task Manager to terminate the program Do res = Session.Message (H0500, rec) ' check for the program terminated loop until res tryagain Phil Wilson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Biryukov Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:19 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ? Greetings all, We need for doing minor upgrades of our software product on servers, that is _not acceptably_ to reboot. Some of upgrades affect on running windows services, but Windows Installer does not show FilesInUse dialog for this, instead show Please reboot at final of installation. In this situation user not be aware that services/files in use and will be updated, for manually prevent reboot. The Windows Installer documentation says : - If you expect the installer to display a FilesInUseDialog, but it does not, this may be due to one of the following reasons: - The files in use are not executables. - The installer is not actually trying to install those files. - The process holding those files is the process invoking the installation. - The process holding those files is one that does not have a window with a title associated with it. - Is exist a way to display FilesInUse dialog (or some custom dialog with file names) always, for _all_ files in use which should be updated ? -- Alexander Biryukov - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] How to show FilesInUse dialog _always_ ?
Alexander Biryukov wrote: Unfortunately, ServiceControl with Stop='install' always stops service, it is not dependent on that updating service or not. True, but better to stop more services than reboot. Also it does not solve the problem with locked non executable files. MSI doesn't support that -- the FilesInUse dialog is geared toward users who can close their apps, not arbitrary executables. WiX v3 includes a CloseApplications custom action and you can use to shut down arbitrary executables. I'm not sure how well it works with services, however, so you might want to experiment. -- sig://boB http://bobs.org - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
