Re: [WiX-users] Sample web application wxs file

2007-03-13 Thread Richard.Foster
Bob,

 

Since I have not (yet) needed to deploy a web application, take the
following with caution!

 

Because it is an in-house application, and not intended for widespread
distribution to potentially remote sites you might be able to get away
with a single component (assuming no optional choices), although I don't
think I would choose to do so.

 

The DLL's (IMHO) count as executables and should be placed in separate
components just in case you want/need to patch them later.

 

Because you mention that some files will be optional, obviously those
files will need to be placed into the appropriate number of components
based on your choices. Be aware that to keep your life as simple as
possible you may need additional components to contain any optional
files that are "shared". (I.e. if file shared.aspx is required if either
somepage.aspx or someotherpage.aspx are present, but both somepage.aspx
and someotherpage.aspx are optional, then shared.aspx should go in one
component, somepage.aspx in a second and someotherpage.aspx in a third).

 

Remember, you can only choose to install (or not) a component. You
cannot install just part of a component (i.e. an individual file).

 

Probably the easiest way to set up what you want is with one core
(required) feature (which would contain the core component(s),
naturally), and several optional features (containing references to your
optional components).

 

It is perfectly acceptable to reference the same component in more than
one feature. The component in question will only be installed once (if
required), and will not be removed until all features referencing it are
also removed.

 

Hope this helps,

Regards,

Richard

 



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Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Sample web application wxs file

 

Thanks for the information Richard, very helpful. It definitely gives me
some things to think about, but also raised a few additional questions
for me: Since I'm trying to create a web application installer, there
aren't really any "executables". It's basically a collection of DLLs,
.aspx files, .css files, etc. We're basically trying to provide our
infrastructure group with a simplified way of deploying the application
that we're creating in house to staging and production servers. So it's
ultimately just going to put a bunch of files in a directory selected by
the user, and then possibly even create a vdir in IIS, etc...and there
will be a few files that will either be copied or not copied to the
installation directory, based on a couple of simple user choices. The
one other requirement I could see this having would be possibly
detecting if the application has previously been installed on the
machine, and if so, uninstall it first before installing the new
version.

 

So, based on that, would it make more sense to make a single component
with all of the required files in it? Or an individual component for
each file?

 

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Re: [WiX-users] Sample web application wxs file

2007-03-13 Thread Yexley, Robert (LNG-CON)
Thanks for the information Richard, very helpful. It definitely gives me
some things to think about, but also raised a few additional questions
for me: Since I'm trying to create a web application installer, there
aren't really any "executables". It's basically a collection of DLLs,
.aspx files, .css files, etc. We're basically trying to provide our
infrastructure group with a simplified way of deploying the application
that we're creating in house to staging and production servers. So it's
ultimately just going to put a bunch of files in a directory selected by
the user, and then possibly even create a vdir in IIS, etc...and there
will be a few files that will either be copied or not copied to the
installation directory, based on a couple of simple user choices. The
one other requirement I could see this having would be possibly
detecting if the application has previously been installed on the
machine, and if so, uninstall it first before installing the new
version.
 
So, based on that, would it make more sense to make a single component
with all of the required files in it? Or an individual component for
each file?
 
__
// YEX //
 
 



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Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Sample web application wxs file



Bob,

 

As far as features / components are concerned, you probably want to look
at the Microsoft installer documentation.

 

Very basically though, "Features" are what the end user sees (e.g.
"Word", "Excel", etc), and have a one-to-many mapping with the
"Components" (word.exe, wordsupportfile.dll, etc.).

 

If you wish to be able to create a patch file at some point in the
future, then versioning rules require that you only have one executable
per component. If you have multiple executables in the same component,
you can only modify them as a complete set (remembering, of course, that
component rules also dictate that you change the GUID if any files are
added or removed).

 

For non-executable files which are always installed as a "package", it
may be appropriate to place them in the same component. That's really a
design decision for your installation and will vary depending on your
specific needs.

 

Hope this helps,

Regards,

Richard

 



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Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:09 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Sample web application wxs file

 

For some reason, I'm having some trouble following the WiX Tutorial
provided online. I was wondering if anyone on the list might happen to
have a sample of a WiX source file for installing an ASP.NET web
application that they wouldn't mind sharing. I really feel like if I
could look at a good sample file it would be more clear how I need to
approach this. More than anything, I'm having trouble understanding the
relationships between "components" and "features", and whether or not to
install each of my binaries for the app individually in its own
component, or just one component with all of the binaries I need in it,
etc. It seems to me like the tutorial and the help documentation
provided with the toolkit has a lot of "you can do it like this or like
this or like this", but not any "this is the best/right way to do X". I
just need to create an installer for a web app that will provide the
user with some options. Any advice or samples would be greatly
appreciated.

 

__

// YEX //

 

// Bob Yexley

// Contractor / Software Engineer [Extreme Consulting]

// LexisNexis - Risk & Information Analytics Group (RIAG)

// 937.865.6800 ext. 58655

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Re: [WiX-users] Sample web application wxs file

2007-03-13 Thread Richard.Foster
Bob,

 

As far as features / components are concerned, you probably want to look
at the Microsoft installer documentation.

 

Very basically though, "Features" are what the end user sees (e.g.
"Word", "Excel", etc), and have a one-to-many mapping with the
"Components" (word.exe, wordsupportfile.dll, etc.).

 

If you wish to be able to create a patch file at some point in the
future, then versioning rules require that you only have one executable
per component. If you have multiple executables in the same component,
you can only modify them as a complete set (remembering, of course, that
component rules also dictate that you change the GUID if any files are
added or removed).

 

For non-executable files which are always installed as a "package", it
may be appropriate to place them in the same component. That's really a
design decision for your installation and will vary depending on your
specific needs.

 

Hope this helps,

Regards,

Richard

 



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Robert (LNG-CON)
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:09 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Sample web application wxs file

 

For some reason, I'm having some trouble following the WiX Tutorial
provided online. I was wondering if anyone on the list might happen to
have a sample of a WiX source file for installing an ASP.NET web
application that they wouldn't mind sharing. I really feel like if I
could look at a good sample file it would be more clear how I need to
approach this. More than anything, I'm having trouble understanding the
relationships between "components" and "features", and whether or not to
install each of my binaries for the app individually in its own
component, or just one component with all of the binaries I need in it,
etc. It seems to me like the tutorial and the help documentation
provided with the toolkit has a lot of "you can do it like this or like
this or like this", but not any "this is the best/right way to do X". I
just need to create an installer for a web app that will provide the
user with some options. Any advice or samples would be greatly
appreciated.

 

__

// YEX //

 

// Bob Yexley

// Contractor / Software Engineer [Extreme Consulting]

// LexisNexis - Risk & Information Analytics Group (RIAG)

// 937.865.6800 ext. 58655

// [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 




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[WiX-users] Sample web application wxs file

2007-03-13 Thread Yexley, Robert (LNG-CON)
For some reason, I'm having some trouble following the WiX Tutorial
provided online. I was wondering if anyone on the list might happen to
have a sample of a WiX source file for installing an ASP.NET web
application that they wouldn't mind sharing. I really feel like if I
could look at a good sample file it would be more clear how I need to
approach this. More than anything, I'm having trouble understanding the
relationships between "components" and "features", and whether or not to
install each of my binaries for the app individually in its own
component, or just one component with all of the binaries I need in it,
etc. It seems to me like the tutorial and the help documentation
provided with the toolkit has a lot of "you can do it like this or like
this or like this", but not any "this is the best/right way to do X". I
just need to create an installer for a web app that will provide the
user with some options. Any advice or samples would be greatly
appreciated.
 
__
// YEX //
 
// Bob Yexley
// Contractor / Software Engineer [Extreme Consulting]
// LexisNexis - Risk & Information Analytics Group (RIAG)
// 937.865.6800 ext. 58655
// [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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