Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit
I have tried to implement the same as follows. But it gives me an error stating as follows: Error 1723. There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL required for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your support personnel or package vendor. Action LaunchUpdate, entry: WixShellExec here is the code snippet. What am i missing here? Binary Id=WixCA SourceFile=C:\data\wixca.dll / CustomAction Id=SetLaunchApplicationTarget Property=WixShellExecTarget Value=[INSTALLDIR]EnUpd.exe / CustomAction Id=LaunchUpdate BinaryKey=WixCA DllEntry=WixShellExec Impersonate=no / UI Dialog Id=ExitDialog Width=370 Height=270 Title=$(loc.ExitDialog_Title) Control Id=Finish Type=PushButton X=236 Y=243 Width=56 Height=17 Default=yes Cancel=yes Text=$(loc.WixUIFinish) Publish Event=EndDialog Value=Return1/Publish Publish Event=DoAction Value=SetLaunchApplicationTargetENABLEUPDATES AND NOT Installed/Publish Publish Event=DoAction Value=LaunchUpdateENABLEUPDATES AND NOT Installed/Publish .. /UI - Andy MSI Developer Schneider Electric:working: -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/launch-on-exit-tp703850p4694145.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit
Add WiXUtilExtension as a Project reference (or supply it to light using the -ext switch if you don't use a wixproj in Visual Studio) remove your Binary Element below as it's not needed in WiX 3.0/3.5. Palbinder Sandher Software Deployment IT Administrator T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500 F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501 http://www.iesve.com **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the Virtual Environment** Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No. SC151456 Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park, Glasgow G20 0SP Email Disclaimer -Original Message- From: Andy.Kruger [mailto:appr...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 March 2010 09:09 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit I have tried to implement the same as follows. But it gives me an error stating as follows: Error 1723. There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL required for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your support personnel or package vendor. Action LaunchUpdate, entry: WixShellExec here is the code snippet. What am i missing here? Binary Id=WixCA SourceFile=C:\data\wixca.dll / CustomAction Id=SetLaunchApplicationTarget Property=WixShellExecTarget Value=[INSTALLDIR]EnUpd.exe / CustomAction Id=LaunchUpdate BinaryKey=WixCA DllEntry=WixShellExec Impersonate=no / UI Dialog Id=ExitDialog Width=370 Height=270 Title=$(loc.ExitDialog_Title) Control Id=Finish Type=PushButton X=236 Y=243 Width=56 Height=17 Default=yes Cancel=yes Text=$(loc.WixUIFinish) Publish Event=EndDialog Value=Return1/Publish Publish Event=DoAction Value=SetLaunchApplicationTargetENABLEUPDATES AND NOT Installed/Publish Publish Event=DoAction Value=LaunchUpdateENABLEUPDATES AND NOT Installed/Publish .. /UI - Andy MSI Developer Schneider Electric:working: -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/launch-on-exit-tp703850p4694145.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit
Sorry my bad. I did not realize that ShellExecute is not available with WiX 2.0 I'm building the installer using WiX 2.0. How do I fix the issue in this scenario? Thanks for your reply - Andy MSI Developer Schneider Electric:working: -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/launch-on-exit-tp703850p4694611.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit
Upgrade to WiX 3.0/3.5 or write your own ShellExec custom action. Palbinder Sandher Software Deployment IT Administrator T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500 F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501 http://www.iesve.com **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the Virtual Environment** Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No. SC151456 Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park, Glasgow G20 0SP Email Disclaimer -Original Message- From: Andy.Kruger [mailto:appr...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 March 2010 11:32 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit Sorry my bad. I did not realize that ShellExecute is not available with WiX 2.0 I'm building the installer using WiX 2.0. How do I fix the issue in this scenario? Thanks for your reply - Andy MSI Developer Schneider Electric:working: -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/launch-on-exit-tp703850p4694611.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit
I'm trying to launch an exe this way on windows Vista with UAC enabled. But the exe doesn't seems to be launching. Mine is a c# exe and I'm using an admin manifest to tell that it requires elevation. Shouldn't it show the UAC dialog with Allow and Cancel options upon launch?? - Andy MSI Developer Schneider Electric:working: -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/launch-on-exit-tp703850p4679255.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit
What do you mean by this way? ;) Here's a working fragment copied straight from our current release... Fragment CustomAction Id=SetLaunchApplicationTarget Property=WixShellExecTarget Value=[#$(var.launchapplication)] / CustomAction Id=LaunchApplication BinaryKey=WixCA DllEntry=WixShellExec Impersonate=no / UI Id=LaunchApplication Publish Dialog=ExitDialog Control=Finish Event=DoAction Value=SetLaunchApplicationTarget ![CDATA[NOT Installed]] /Publish Publish Dialog=ExitDialog Control=Finish Event=DoAction Value=LaunchApplication ![CDATA[NOT Installed]] /Publish /UI /Fragment On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Andy.Kruger appr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to launch an exe this way on windows Vista with UAC enabled. But the exe doesn't seems to be launching. Mine is a c# exe and I'm using an admin manifest to tell that it requires elevation. Shouldn't it show the UAC dialog with Allow and Cancel options upon launch?? - Andy MSI Developer Schneider Electric:working: -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/launch-on-exit-tp703850p4679255.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] launch on exit triggered even when uninstall
Hi, From the tutorial http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/, section 8.6, I have learnt how to launch an application: *Control* Id=Launch Type=CheckBox X=135 Y=120 Width=150 Height=17 Property='LAUNCHPRODUCT' CheckBoxValue='1' *Text*Launch [ProductName]/*Text* /*Control* However, this launch operation checkbox is still on the exit dialog even when uninstall. Is there a way to control the display like if statement so that the checkbox only shows at installing time? Thanks, Shibo - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit triggered even when uninstall
Underneath the Text element (still inside the Control element) you want something like: Condition Action=hide![CDATA[(InstallMode=Repair) OR (InstallMode=Remove) OR (InstallMode=Change)]]/Condition Rob s zheng wrote: Hi, From the tutorial http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/, section 8.6, I have learnt how to launch an application: *Control* Id=Launch Type=CheckBox X=135 Y=120 Width=150 Height=17 Property='LAUNCHPRODUCT' CheckBoxValue='1' *Text*Launch [ProductName]/*Text* /*Control* However, this launch operation checkbox is still on the exit dialog even when uninstall. Is there a way to control the display like if statement so that the checkbox only shows at installing time? Thanks, Shibo - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit triggered even when uninstall
Look in the Wix chm for... Control Condition/Condition /Control On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:40 PM, s zheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, From the tutorial http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/, section 8.6, I have learnt how to launch an application: *Control* Id=Launch Type=CheckBox X=135 Y=120 Width=150 Height=17 Property='LAUNCHPRODUCT' CheckBoxValue='1' *Text*Launch [ProductName]/*Text* /*Control* However, this launch operation checkbox is still on the exit dialog even when uninstall. Is there a way to control the display like if statement so that the checkbox only shows at installing time? Thanks, Shibo - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit triggered even when uninstall
Thanks for the replies. Condition Action=hideInstalled/Condition works. The statement: Condition Action=hide![CDATA[(InstallMode=Repair) OR (InstallMode=Remove) OR (InstallMode=Change)]]/Condition has no effect, still displaying the checkbox. Though I like the clearer logic it brings. FYI, I am using WiX 2.0. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/%22launch-on-exit%22-triggered-even-when-uninstall-tp1437612p1437843.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit
How do we make this application to launch only if the check box is checked? Guess in this case it wont validate and execute based on the check box status..correct me if i'm wrong Andrew T Hopper wrote: You can launch an application at the end of a setup in a couple of ways, but here are two: Include the following custom action definition and set a property (I named mine SOMEMAGICPROPERTY, I’m sure you can come up with a better name) and call this CA after the files have been placed on the hard drive: ... !-- define the CA to launch our app. Note that it’s deferred since it needs to be executed after we’ve actually installed the files. --CustomAction Id=LaunchApplication FileKey=F_MYAPPLICATIONSID ExeCommand= Execute=deferred Impersonate=yes Return=asyncNoWait/ ... InstallExecuteSequence ... Custom Action=LaunchApplication After=InstallFiles![CDATA[SOMEMAGICPROPERTY]]/Custom ... /InstallExecuteSequence ... If you’re already using WixUI, another way would be to leverage Bob Arnson’s addition of the optional check box to ExitDialog and have the app launched when the user clicks the Finish button: ... !-- define the CA to launch our app. Note that it’s immediate since it’ll be executed from the UI. --CustomAction Id=LaunchApplication FileKey=F_MYAPPLICATIONSID ExeCommand= Execute=immediate Impersonate=yes Return=asyncNoWait/ ... !-- set the text we’ll display next to the launch check box. --Property Id=WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT Value=Launch application name /... !-- Attach a handler to the Finish button on the ExitDialog dialog that will invoke our CA. --UI Publish Dialog=ExitDialog Control=Finish Order=1 Event=DoAction Value=LaunchApplicationWIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOX/Publish/UI... Hope this helps! -Andy Hopper _ Learn. Laugh. Share. Reallivemoms is right place! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/launch-on-exit-tf4235462.html#a12476612 Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] launch on exit
Is there any way to start an exe on exit? i've seen some installers that start the application on exit? does anyone know how this was done? Thanks in advance Mark- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit
Does this do what you want? It launches a browser when the install finishes http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/lesson6.php#6.2 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Line Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:30 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] launch on exit Is there any way to start an exe on exit? i've seen some installers that start the application on exit? does anyone know how this was done? Thanks in advance Mark This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit
not really, i want something to be lunched after the installer is closed. - Original Message - From: Schrieken, Rene To: Mark Line ; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:14 PM Subject: RE: [WiX-users] launch on exit Does this do what you want? It launches a browser when the install finishes http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/lesson6.php#6.2 -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Line Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:30 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] launch on exit Is there any way to start an exe on exit? i've seen some installers that start the application on exit? does anyone know how this was done? Thanks in advance Mark This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit
You can launch an application at the end of a setup in a couple of ways, but here are two: Include the following custom action definition and set a property (I named mine SOMEMAGICPROPERTY, I’m sure you can come up with a better name) and call this CA after the files have been placed on the hard drive: ... !-- define the CA to launch our app. Note that it’s deferred since it needs to be executed after we’ve actually installed the files. --CustomAction Id=LaunchApplication FileKey=F_MYAPPLICATIONSID ExeCommand= Execute=deferred Impersonate=yes Return=asyncNoWait/ ... InstallExecuteSequence ... Custom Action=LaunchApplication After=InstallFiles![CDATA[SOMEMAGICPROPERTY]]/Custom ... /InstallExecuteSequence ... If you’re already using WixUI, another way would be to leverage Bob Arnson’s addition of the optional check box to ExitDialog and have the app launched when the user clicks the Finish button: ... !-- define the CA to launch our app. Note that it’s immediate since it’ll be executed from the UI. --CustomAction Id=LaunchApplication FileKey=F_MYAPPLICATIONSID ExeCommand= Execute=immediate Impersonate=yes Return=asyncNoWait/ ... !-- set the text we’ll display next to the launch check box. --Property Id=WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT Value=Launch application name /... !-- Attach a handler to the Finish button on the ExitDialog dialog that will invoke our CA. --UI Publish Dialog=ExitDialog Control=Finish Order=1 Event=DoAction Value=LaunchApplicationWIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOX/Publish/UI... Hope this helps! -Andy Hopper _ Learn. Laugh. Share. Reallivemoms is right place! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] launch on exit
thats just what i was after many thanks Mark - Original Message - From: Andrew T Hopper To: Mark Line ; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: RE: [WiX-users] launch on exit You can launch an application at the end of a setup in a couple of ways, but here are two: Include the following custom action definition and set a property (I named mine SOMEMAGICPROPERTY, I’m sure you can come up with a better name) and call this CA after the files have been placed on the hard drive: ... !-- define the CA to launch our app. Note that it’s deferred since it needs to be executed after we’ve actually installed the files. -- CustomAction Id=LaunchApplication FileKey=F_MYAPPLICATIONSID ExeCommand= Execute=deferred Impersonate=yes Return=asyncNoWait/ ... InstallExecuteSequence ... Custom Action=LaunchApplication After=InstallFiles![CDATA[SOMEMAGICPROPERTY]]/Custom ... /InstallExecuteSequence ... If you’re already using WixUI, another way would be to leverage Bob Arnson’s addition of the optional check box to ExitDialog and have the app launched when the user clicks the Finish button: ... !-- define the CA to launch our app. Note that it’s immediate since it’ll be executed from the UI. -- CustomAction Id=LaunchApplication FileKey=F_MYAPPLICATIONSID ExeCommand= Execute=immediate Impersonate=yes Return=asyncNoWait/ ... !-- set the text we’ll display next to the launch check box. -- Property Id=WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT Value=Launch application name / ... !-- Attach a handler to the Finish button on the ExitDialog dialog that will invoke our CA. -- UI Publish Dialog=ExitDialog Control=Finish Order=1 Event=DoAction Value=LaunchApplicationWIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOX/Publish /UI ... Hope this helps! -Andy Hopper -- New home for Mom, no cleanup required. All starts here. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
