Re: [wpkg-users] Inventory software

[Peter Gough]

OP = original poster:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=op

Sorry - thought this was pretty common usage. Anyway, the original poster
said they didn't have a Windows server. To the best of my knowledge
Spiceworks only runs on Windows.


On 14 November 2012 22:28, Paul McGrath  wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
>   The OP (?).  I would expect on your network that you would have a
> central authenticating database.  If you do not have a Windows Active
> Directory then you should at least have a Mac or Linux Open Directory.
> Spiceworks can be configured to use this instead allowing users to easily
> logon or for the spiceworks system to translate the senders email address
> into user info from the Directory.
>
>
> http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/33838-help-desk-authentication-and-openldap
> 
>
> Paul
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Peter Gough [mailto:pmgo...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 14 November 2012 11:55
> *To:* Paul McGrath
> *Cc:* wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [wpkg-users] Inventory software
>
> ** **
>
> I've got the Spiceworks/wpkg combo and it's a great solution but the OP
> said he didn't have Windows server and AD available so Spiceworks wouldn't
> be an option.
>
> ** **
>
> On 14 November 2012 18:27, Paul McGrath  wrote:**
> **
>
> This is our combination too.  We utilise an Exchange mailbox and AD
> integration in Spiceworks.
>
> Paul
>
>  
>
> *From:* wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org [mailto:
> wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org] *On Behalf Of *? ???
> ??
> *Sent:* 14 November 2012 08:18
>
>
> *To:* wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org
> *Subject:* Re: [wpkg-users] Inventory software
>
>  
>
> The Best is http://www.spiceworks.com/ !  It has got many features to
> inventory and plus as bonus –embedded  IT HelpDesk 
>
>  
>
> WPKG+SpiceWorks is Molotov`s cocktail ! 
>
> I had my way - I would have supplied in the kit.
>
> Alexey
>
>  
>
> *From:* wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org [
> mailto:wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Yves Antigny
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:04 AM
> *To:* wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org
> *Subject:* Re: [wpkg-users] Inventory software
>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
> You can use OCSinventory and GLPI :
>
> http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/en/
> http://www.glpi-project.org/spip.php?lang=en
>
>Yves
>
> Le 13/11/2012 20:35, Chris a écrit :
>
> Dear all,
>
> can you recommend any inventory software? I'd like to track software,
> installed by wpkg and installed manually. It should be Opensource and
> Samba-compatible, i.e. no Active Directory and no Windows Server.
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Inventory software

[Peter Gough]

I've got the Spiceworks/wpkg combo and it's a great solution but the OP
said he didn't have Windows server and AD available so Spiceworks wouldn't
be an option.


On 14 November 2012 18:27, Paul McGrath  wrote:

> This is our combination too.  We utilise an Exchange mailbox and AD
> integration in Spiceworks.
>
> Paul
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org [mailto:
> wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org] *On Behalf Of *? ???
> ??
> *Sent:* 14 November 2012 08:18
>
> *To:* wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org
> *Subject:* Re: [wpkg-users] Inventory software
>
> ** **
>
> The Best is http://www.spiceworks.com/ !  It has got many features to
> inventory and plus as bonus –embedded  IT HelpDesk 
>
> ** **
>
> WPKG+SpiceWorks is Molotov`s cocktail ! 
>
> I had my way - I would have supplied in the kit.
>
> Alexey
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org [
> mailto:wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Yves Antigny
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:04 AM
> *To:* wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org
> *Subject:* Re: [wpkg-users] Inventory software
>
> ** **
>
> Hi,
>
> You can use OCSinventory and GLPI :
>
> http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/en/
> http://www.glpi-project.org/spip.php?lang=en
>
>Yves
>
> Le 13/11/2012 20:35, Chris a écrit :
>
> Dear all,
>
> can you recommend any inventory software? I'd like to track software,
> installed by wpkg and installed manually. It should be Opensource and
> Samba-compatible, i.e. no Active Directory and no Windows Server.
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Notifications of Flash and Java updates

[Peter Gough]

I've got a single machine setup at home with Secunia PSI (
http://secunia.com/). I get notified when there are updates available then
use this as a prompt to start testing at work.

It isn't perfect but it (mostly) does the job.

On 24 October 2012 07:26, John Danks  wrote:

> You can follow the RSS feed here for Flash, Reader, etc:
> http://blogs.adobe.com/psirt/
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Lonney  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone know of a service or system that will send an email to
>> notify of when new versions of Flash and Java available ?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Error: Script execution: failure. Exit code: 2

[Peter Gough]

Depending on your OS there are xml checkers available. I do most of my wpkg
updates using Notepad++ which has a plugin available for this purpose.
Essentially if you try to save a malformed xml file it tells you it has an
error and gives you a line number to check.

HTH,

Peter

On 30 May 2012 15:16, Charlie Page  wrote:

> I start wpkg and it immediately ends.  So I got a log to output and it is
> as follows:
> 2012-05-30 00:58:42 -> Script action execution done.
> 2012-05-30 00:58:42 -> Script execution: failure. Exit code: 2
> 2012-05-30 00:58:42 -> Working done. Perform cleanup.
> 2012-05-30 00:58:42 -> Cleanup done.
>
>
> This is the log from the WPKG Client->Misc. Settings->Debug checked "yes".
> I am pretty sure this is because one of my files has an xml error.  Is
> there a way to get the debug log to show more information?  I tried to put
> "/verbose" in the WPKG Client->Path, Users->WPKG parameters box but that
> didn't seem to help.
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] virtualbox deployment issue

[Peter Gough]

The Cisco VPN client also temporarily disables network interfaces during
installation. I get around the issue of dropped connection to the installer
by copying the client installation files to the local client, running the
installation then deleting the installation files once the install has
finished. I imagine you could do similar with Virtualbox.

Mine's a bit like this:

http://wpkg.org/Cisco_VPN

On 28 November 2011 20:39, Rainer Meier  wrote:

> Hi Anthony,
>
>
> On 28.11.2011 10:54, Anthony Walters wrote:
>
>> My issue is with the virtualbox installer, Virtualbox resets the network
>> inetrfaces on install[1] and so wpkg.js stops executing immediately after
>> virtualbox is installed. From the log below, Virtualbox returns a status
>> of
>> zero, so the virtualbox installer seems to run and finish ok, but wpkg.js
>> does
>> not continue executing.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on how i could get around this?
>>
>
> I think you are right regarding the issue that losing the network
> connectivity could lead to WPKG termination in your case. However there
> might be work-arounds for that.
> The VirtualBox installer seems to cut the network connectivity twice
> during installation, but after that the connectivity should return and
> Windows shall also reconnect network resources. Honestly I did not yet try
> to deploy VirtualBox via WPKG, but I've created a silent installer which I
> use on some of my lab computers.
>
> Here I usually extract the MSI installers from the exe installer using
>  -x -p ""
>
> Then I use "msiexec /i /qn " to deploy it.
>
> Maybe you can wrap the installer with a cmd script and add some delay
> before it exits in order to allow Windows to restore network connections.
> Maybe it would even be sufficient to add some commands to the package:
>
> 
>
>
> Or call a cmd script like the following:
>
> @echo off
>
> set VERIFY_HOST=172.16.22.63
>
> echo Waiting for network connectivity to be back
> setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
> for /L %%C IN (1,1,90) DO (
>  ping -n 2 %VERIFY_HOST% > NUL
>  if !ERRORLEVEL! == 0 goto good_end
>  ping -n 2 localhost > NUL
> )
>
> :bad_end
> echo Installation finished but connectivity did not return.
> exit /b 1
>
> :good_end
> echo Installation successful
> exit /b 0
>
>
>
> This will wait until either the host specified in VERIFY_HOST is reachable
> or timeout is reached.
>
> You might have to copy the installer and verify script to local drive
> (e.g. %TEMP%) in order to make this work:
>
>
> id="virtualbox"
>name="Virtualbox"
>revision="%version%"
>reboot="false"
>priority="10">
>
>
>
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Firefox homepage question

[Peter Gough]

Thanks. That's the missing bit of info I'd overlooked.

Peter

On 8 September 2011 17:31, Marco Gaiarin  wrote:

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> > Any ideas whether what I'm trying to do is possible?
>
> Yes:
>
>  Pref: set the value at every startup, user can alter them
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[wpkg-users] Firefox homepage question

[Peter Gough]

Hi,

I'm in the process of deploying Firefox to our users. I'd like to initially
set their homepage to our organization's homepage but allow them to change
this as they wish.

When I follow the instructions here (
http://wpkg.org/Firefox#Setting_and_Locking_Preferences) and amend the
mozilla.cfg file then the homepage is set as expected. I changed a line in
this file from lockPref... to pref... and was hoping that this would allow
the users to set their homepage but instead the option to set the homepage
is no longer greyed-out but when they change it their change is overwritten
the next time Firefox is restarted.

To test this I've tried granting Full control over the mozilla.cfg file (and
subsequently the entire application folder) but it appears that their
changes are written to their local profile prefs rather than the one
specified in defaults\pref\profile.js which is used at startup.

Any ideas whether what I'm trying to do is possible?

Thanks,

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Re: [wpkg-users] Deploying System in Real-Time

[Peter Gough]

When you run the script locally are you using the same account as you're
using with psexec? Also might be worth taking a look at the event viewer
(Start > Run > eventvwr.msc) and checking for errors. I suspect that your
package install isn't completing correctly - perhaps the checks fail - which
would mean the wpkg.xml wouldn't be updated.

The other thing I do for troubleshooting is to open a command prompt on a
problem machine (make sure you run it as Administrator) and run
'\\wpkg-server\wpkg-share\wpkg.js /synchronize', i.e. without the /nonotify
and /quiet switches. This should give you a bit more info in terms of
tracking down what's happening with your install.

To answer your final question my XP clients have the wpkg-client installed
and query the server at startup. My Win7 clients also query at startup but
this is done with a simple group policy-managed script. The only
disadvantage is that Win7 users don't get a nice dialog box telling them
what's going on but the advantages of managed software deployment certainly
make that inconvenience worthwhile.

Peter

On 1 June 2011 07:30, Dave Goodbourn  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm not at work at the moment, but a bit more info for you. The client is a
> Win 7 x64 and I'm testing the commands from an XP SP3 x86. I'm running with
> an administrators account.
>
> Another thing I've noticed is that if I run the cscript locally it works
> just great, but if I just start the service it can sometimes again fail to
> update the wpkg.xml file. I'm going to try a different software installation
> as I'm not 100% sure the VLC script I'm testing with works 100% correctly.
> I'll do some more testing tomorrow when I'm back in work and try and narrow
> down where I'm going wrong!!!
>
> BTW, how does everyone else deploy software with WPKG? Push or Pull?
>
> Cheers,
> D.
>
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Peter Gough  wrote:
>
>> That's also the way I read it.
>>
>> Can you check that the account you're using for the updates has
>> permissions (RWXD) to write the file in %windir%\system32.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/06/2011, at 6:07 AM, Rainer Meier  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Kevin,
>> >
>> > On 31.05.2011 20:05, k.ijs...@eqaz.nl wrote:
>> >> Did you gave the file 777 rights?
>> >>
>> >> Else it can't be edited..
>> >
>> > I think he's not talking about server-side XML (wpkg.js does not update
>> any of
>> > them unless you have a script/package which just copies it from local to
>> a
>> > share). So I was assuming that he refers to the local wpkg.xml file -
>> which
>> > would also explain why he's seeing the same updates on each run.
>> >
>> > Moreover I don't think he's using Linux/Samba server; but I am not sure
>> as he
>> > did not specify it.
>> >
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Re: [wpkg-users] Deploying System in Real-Time

[Peter Gough]

That's also the way I read it.

Can you check that the account you're using for the updates has
permissions (RWXD) to write the file in %windir%\system32.



On 01/06/2011, at 6:07 AM, Rainer Meier  wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> On 31.05.2011 20:05, k.ijs...@eqaz.nl wrote:
>> Did you gave the file 777 rights?
>>
>> Else it can't be edited..
>
> I think he's not talking about server-side XML (wpkg.js does not update any of
> them unless you have a script/package which just copies it from local to a
> share). So I was assuming that he refers to the local wpkg.xml file - which
> would also explain why he's seeing the same updates on each run.
>
> Moreover I don't think he's using Linux/Samba server; but I am not sure as he
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Re: [wpkg-users] uninstall software using WPKG

[Peter Gough]

The way mine is setup is that each package has its own .xml file in the
packages folder (there's a bit about this here: http://wpkg.org/Packages.xml
).

So, for example, I would create a file called hardcopy.xml to manage this
package. As long as you specify the package id and this matches the name of
the package id in profiles.xml then you can add and remove this package from
individual hosts (or groups of hosts using wildcards/pattern matching) in
your hosts.xml file.

It sounds a bit complex but once you get your head around it you'll find
it's really flexible.

On 9 May 2011 23:56, Ninnig, Alexander  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> sorry, I just don't get it:
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall software using WPKG.
>
> As far as I get it (I am a newbie):
> there's
> * hosts.xml - meaning: which profile is assigned to which computer
> * profiles.xml - meaning: which softwarepackages are assigned to which
> profile
> * packages.xml - meaning: all the actions (line install, upgrade, remove
> plus checks)
> So far, so good.
>
> The point is: in those packaging.xml-files, there are three actions
> described: install, upgrade, remove. How does the computer know, which
> action to take? I'm kinda looking for a assignment like: uninstall
> package firefox in profile custom, which is assigned to host pc001
>
> So far, I deployed hardcopy, which worked fine. Packages.xml contains:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> As I said, installation worked fine. What would I have to do to
> uninstall Hardcopy? How do I tell the clients to use the remove-cmd?
>
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Windows 7 64 bit client 1.3.9-x64.msi WPKG Service will not start

[Peter Gough]

Hi,

Unfortunately I've not been able to get this working for my Win7 clients.

Instead I'm currently running a simple login script that checks the OS. If
it returns a Win7 machine then it runs the following command and exits:

cscript \\server\wpkg\wpkg.js /synchronize /quiet

If it returns an XP client then it checks to see if the WPKG client is
already installed, runs the client install if it isn't and then exits.

I've played around a bit with wpkg-gp but I'm not yet confident that it's
stable enough to introduce into production.

Peter

On 11/04/2011, at 4:43 PM, Andrew Spiers  wrote:

Following the instructions at http://wpkg.org/WPKG_QUICK_INSTALL trying to
connect to an existing wpkg installation; the installation goes
successfully, and the test button works after using the fqdn of the server.

The Service will not start. I am getting error 1067: the service terminated
unexpectedly. The error message from the application log follows.

Has anyone been able to get WPKG to work under 64 bit Windows 7? What else
should I be trying?

Also, we run a Samba 3 NTLM Domain. Does this mean that WPKG-GP will not
work on our Win 7 machines?


APPLICATION LOG:


Faulting application name: WPKGSrv.exe, version: 1.0.0.13, time stamp:
0x497b3743
Faulting module name: WPKGSrv.exe, version: 1.0.0.13, time stamp: 0x497b3743
Exception code: 0xc005
Fault offset: 0xc39a
Faulting process id: 0xe68
Faulting application start time: 0x01cbf8117f4447a8
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\wpkg\WPKGSrv.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\wpkg\WPKGSrv.exe

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Re: [wpkg-users] Windows XP SP3

[Peter Gough]

If you're using the wpkg client then you can set this up so the users see a
message indicating that wpkg is working (http://wpkg.org/Screenshots).

It doesn't really work as a progress bar but it is a visual reminder for
them not to restart the machine.

Is this not working for you?

On 27 October 2010 19:44, Alexey  wrote:

> :))
> Oh! I lost some text here.  Due to the fact that the install SP3 on some
> computers is more than 1,5 hours to the user to display "Please wait for the
> screen". I want show "WaitScreen" only on the PC, where SP3 will be
> installed.
>
>
>
> 2010/10/27 Peter Gough 
>
> Alexey,
>>
>> I'm not too sure what you're asking here. Are you having problems
>> deploying this package?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>   On 27 October 2010 18:02, Alexey  wrote:
>>
>>>   Hi, All!
>>>
>>> After news about the support ended of XP SP2 (
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/gp/windowsxpsp2)  we decide install SP3 all
>>> over around.
>>> There is ( http://wpkg.org/Windows_XP_SP3 )  ready package for SP3
>>> install.  How can I solve this task?
>>>
>>> with regards,
>>> Alexey.
>>>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Windows XP SP3

[Peter Gough]

Alexey,

I'm not too sure what you're asking here. Are you having problems deploying
this package?

Regards,

Peter

On 27 October 2010 18:02, Alexey  wrote:

> Hi, All!
>
> After news about the support ended of XP SP2 (
> http://support.microsoft.com/gp/windowsxpsp2)  we decide install SP3 all
> over around.
> There is ( http://wpkg.org/Windows_XP_SP3 )  ready package for SP3
> install.  How can I solve this task?
>
> with regards,
> Alexey.
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Need help having WPKG set filesystem permissions before and after running script

[Peter Gough]

Deltacopy is a Windows app that can be installed on a client and used to
connect to an rsync server. There are details on installation here:

http://wpkg.org/DeltaCopy

The main disadvantage of RoboCopy is that if a file is changed then the
whole file is recopied. This might be okay for small files but is a pain for
big stuff like .pst files. Rsync is a significantly more efficient way to
copy files.

On 16 September 2010 17:01, Natxo Asenjo  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Todd Blum  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >I am using WPKG for the first time.  I have WPKG and wpkgexpress
> > running on XMPP on a Windows XP workstation in a Windows domain
> environment.
> >
> >I have been updating my company's .NET application with a script
> that
> > runs cwrsync on the Program Files directory on the user's workstations,
> but
> > I've been getting in to some trouble because cwrsync leaves the ownership
> > and permissions of the files different than it finds them.  I was hoping
> to
> > use WPKG to first set ownership and permissions on the program's Program
> > Files directory, perform the cwrsync script, then set the ownership and
> > permissions again on the Program Files directory. I'm not readily seeing
> a
> > package example for changing filesystem permissions--does anyone know the
> > best way to perform these tasks?
>
> you can use setacl http://setacl.sourceforge.net/ to set all the
> permissions you want (not for the faint of heart, but windows
> permissions are really complicated). Or you can use robocopy instead
> of rsync to move files around. Robocopy can keep the permisssion of
> the source files in a domain environment.. It comes with the resource
> kit, I think
>
> >I chose rsync as the update model because the program doesn't have
> to
> > be reinstalled with each update, and I thought it would minimize
> bandwidth
> > usage (the rsync server is centralized and there are many disparate
> > networks).
>
> rsync is really nice and I use it all the time in our linux
> environment but it is not designed for windows ;-). Robocopy will only
> copy files if they have changed.
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Need help having WPKG set filesystem permissions before and after running script

[Peter Gough]

You could use cacls in a batch file for installation. Hopefully some of the
examples in existing packages should point you in the right direction:

http://wpkg.org/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=cacls&go=Go

On 16 September 2010 05:11, Todd Blum  wrote:

> Hello,
>
>I am using WPKG for the first time.  I have WPKG and wpkgexpress
> running on XMPP on a Windows XP workstation in a Windows domain environment.
>
>I have been updating my company's .NET application with a script
> that runs cwrsync on the Program Files directory on the user's workstations,
> but I've been getting in to some trouble because cwrsync leaves the
> ownership and permissions of the files different than it finds them.  I was
> hoping to use WPKG to first set ownership and permissions on the program's
> Program Files directory, perform the cwrsync script, then set the ownership
> and permissions again on the Program Files directory. I'm not readily seeing
> a package example for changing filesystem permissions--does anyone know the
> best way to perform these tasks?
>
>I chose rsync as the update model because the program doesn't have
> to be reinstalled with each update, and I thought it would minimize
> bandwidth usage (the rsync server is centralized and there are many
> disparate networks).
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Todd
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] A few quick questions

[Peter Gough]

If you're running Active Directory then you might want to check out Group
Policy Preferences. Far and away the easiest way to manage local accounts
(including resetting local user passwords). It relies on your workstations
having the Group Policy Preference Extensions installed and you'll need at
least one Vista/WIndows 7 or Server 2008 machine to manage the new
extensions.

Lots more info here:

http://www.gpoguy.com/Portals/0/Group%20Policy%20Preferences%20Overview.pdf

On 2 July 2010 16:13,  wrote:

> > Also, what is the best way to use wpkg to change the administrator
> > account password on windows xp and vista?
>
> I don't know the best way - i used a variant of a vbscript Dr.Google found
> for me. If you have powershell installed on XP I'd suggest you use that
> instead - it's much more readable. But VBScript has the advantage on being
> installed on every supported PC-Windows by default.
>
> It also activates the administrator and disabled expiration. Note that this
> snippet only works on Windows-Versions where the admin-user is called
> "Administrator". If you use French, for example, you have to use
> 'Administrateur':
>
> dim PW
> PW = "myPassword"
> Const ADS_UF_DONT_EXPIRE_PASSWD = &h1
> dim objUser, objUserFlags, objPasswordExpirationFlag
> set objUser = GetObject("WinNT://./Administrator")
> objUser.AccountDisabled = false
> objUserFlags = objUser.Get("UserFlags")
> objPasswordExpirationFlag = objUserFlags OR ADS_UF_DONT_EXPIRE_PASSWD
> objUser.Put "userFlags", objPasswordExpirationFlag
>
> objUser.SetPassword PW
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Re: [wpkg-users] HKEY_CURRENT_USER

[Peter Gough]

Group Policy Preferences will do this if you've got Active Directory up and
running.

Lots of info here:

http://www.gpoguy.com/Portals/0/Group%20Policy%20Preferences%20Overview.pdf

On 6 April 2010 19:16, Vladimir Psenicka wrote:

> I think no, it can be done via logon script on server.
>
> Dne 6.4.2010 11:04, Hans-Werner Friedemann napsal(a):
> > Hi @ all
> >
> > I have to change an registry entry under HKEY_CURRENT_USER for each
> > userprofile, which exists on a pc!
> > how can i perform this with wpkg?
> >
> > Thanks for help
> >
> >
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Re: [wpkg-users] wpkg createReport

[Peter Gough]

I've got this running as a batch script and use group policy to run this at
shutdown on my clients. Works great, assuming you've got Active Directory up
and running ;-)

On 9 March 2010 03:10, Pendl Stefan  wrote:

> >
> > Hello,
> > I want to check the installed packages with the wpkg report.
> > The installed or not installed packages, based on the wpkg.xml of every
> client, should be central saved on a file server.
> > But I don´t know how i must implemented the following command:
> > copy /Y "%windir%\system32\wpkg.xml"
> "%wpkgshare%\clientStates\%computername%.xml"
> > Have I put these command into a xml file or in a Batchscript?
> > Thanks for helping!
> > Kerstin Gahr
> >
>
> I have this running as a post action batch file in the WPKG client, which
> makes sure, that I get the whole WPKG.XML file, not only a portion of it.
>
> You can create a package for this too and execute it as the very last
> package using priority zero, but you will end up with a partial WPKG.XML
> file.
>
> If you are using WPKG with startup or shutdown scripts you can add it
> directly after calling wpkg.js.
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Joining windows to a domain

[Peter Gough]

...or instead of using \\server\wpkg as the share name try \\
server.mydomain.com\wpkg (i.e. the fully qualified domain name) which tricks
Windows into thinking that you're using a different network resource.

On 27 February 2010 22:09, Vasaris  wrote:

> > I try join windows xp to domain with netdom.exe. When I run package I get
> > error: "Multiple connection...".
> > Is someone who tried to join windows to a domain and can help me?
>
> Simple - try another user account with administrative privileges in the
> domain.
>
> This is known Windows XP problem. For example, if the computer is joined in
> the domain (already), and you try to re-join, or change computer name, and
> do that from the domain account profile loaded (not local administrative
> account&profile loaded), this error pops up.
>
> The account of the profile which is active and loaded must be different
> from the one you supply when authenticating to the DC, during joing
> opperation.
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Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG client service script error on clean

[Peter Gough]

I can confirm that the download works okay from Australia.

In terms of software deployment we'd love to stick to simply deploying msi
packages using group policy but this just isn't a practical position for
most of us. Given the variety of software delivery options employed by
vendors we looked for a setup neutral system and wpkg was the best available
at the time. I still believe it offers all sorts of benefits over other
deployment strategies and has the added bonus of being actively developed!

On 27 February 2010 22:13, Tomasz Chmielewski  wrote:

> Vasaris wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  On 27.02.2010 09:41, Vasaris wrote:
>>>
>>>  You can also try http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/1.3.14/ - although
> there were almost no changes in machine account handling code.
>

>> Sorry, but the server is now experiencing some sort of problems. I cannot
>> download beta-client, as the server drops connections right on the beggining
>> of the download, or after some Kb are downloaded. And the download is
>> extremly slow. I think you should check this out.
>>
>
> Again, works here - most likely a problem on your side.
> But someone else could recommend if it works for them or not.
>
>
>
>  \> > I will do that for sure. I would like to clarify - do I have to make
>> the trasform with the Properties table additional record, pointing to
>> settings.xml file, or else .msi package install will fail?
>>
>>> I think instead of wasting time on creating a transform file (too bad AD
>>> does not let you specify MSI parameters)
>>>
>>
>> OK.
>>
>>  you can just run a AD script:
>>>
>>> cscript \pathtowpkg.js /install:wpkg
>>>
>>> Easy enough.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, but I do not know whats does this accomplishes? Installs the
>> client? Or runs the WPKG normal cycle?
>>
>> I would rather stick to MSI packages, as they allow seemless upgrade, when
>> new version is out. If it is not possible, I think, that server-mode
>> deployment is better then.
>>
>
> If you have "wpkg" package defined (including WPKG Client), it will install
> WPK Client.
>
> As AD is not able to handle MSI parameters (although it is advertised that
> "it handles MSI"), or install exe and such, this was one of motivations to
> write WPKG.
>
> From experience, you'll have to decide if you want to use AD to deploy
> packages or WPKG.
> If you decide to use both, you'll likely to get confused one day, when WPKG
> will install some package, then AD will remove it, then WPKG will install
> it, and so on.
>
> If you want seamless upgrades using MSI and parameters, Microsoft
> recommends you to migrate to SMS.
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Will WPKG uninstall software it did not install?

[Peter Gough]

Yes, all true and well worth clarification.

I only offer my advice based on my own experience which is that without
careful testing it is difficult to predict exactly what the implementation
of wpkg will have. I've certainly tripped up more than once as a result of
my own ill-conceived check conditions. This isn't the fault of wpkg, which
has done exactly what I've asked it to do, but for somebody implementing
wpkg in their own 'virgin' environment I think it is important to spell out
the potential for adversely impacting their existing software installations.

On 27 February 2010 19:23, Rainer Meier  wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> > Simply put if for some reason I decide to rollout Firefox v3.5 to all of
> > my clients but some of my users have already installed v3.6 then wpkg
> > may install the older version over the top of the newer version assuming
> > I use a check condition that specifies the file version as v3.5..
> >
> > In this scenario wpkg.js would check for the v3.5 file and when it
> > doesn't find it then it would attempt to install v3.5 using the install
> > commands in the package definition file, regardless of whether v3.6 is
> > installed or not.
>
> But in this case I would consider this to be exactly the expected behavior.
> You're assigning a Firefox package to the profile which is assigned to a
> specific host. So you want to make sure this host has Firefox 3.5
> installed. So
> WPKG will assure assuming you pass the necessary commands to WPKG.
> It would also be possible to ALLOW people to install new versions by
> defining
> the checks accordingly (allow version 3.5 or higher).
>
> So from my point of view your scenario does not apply at all to the
> question
> whether WPKG will touch software not under its control or not. At the time
> you
> assign the Firefox package to the host it's under WPKG control (no matter
> which
> version might be on the host already). Then it's also clear that WPKG will
> remove Firefox once you remove the package from the profile in the future.
> But
> this case is the "package under WPKG control" use case and not related at
> all to
> the case of Tomas where he asked if a completely unrelated package will be
> touched by WPKG.
>
> I understood the question in a way that he wants to know if WPKG will
> uninstall
> "Microsoft Office" if he has a "Microsoft Office" package in packages.xml
> but
> it's not assigned to the host but installed on the host already. The answer
> to
> this question is simply "No" because WPKG will not look for "Microsoft
> Office"
> on this system as long as the package is not assigned to the host.
>
> WPKG will only take control of software packages which are assigned to the
> host
> at any point in time.
>
> br,
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Re: [wpkg-users] Will WPKG uninstall software it did not install?

[Peter Gough]

Agreed but this isn't the scenario I was describing.

Simply put if for some reason I decide to rollout Firefox v3.5 to all of my
clients but some of my users have already installed v3.6 then wpkg may
install the older version over the top of the newer version assuming I use a
check condition that specifies the file version as v3.5..

In this scenario wpkg.js would check for the v3.5 file and when it doesn't
find it then it would attempt to install v3.5 using the install commands in
the package definition file, regardless of whether v3.6 is installed or not.

That's why I was recommending being very careful when writing check
conditions and running a full test and a small pilot group first before
implementing wpkg.

On 27 February 2010 09:22, Rainer Meier  wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> On 26.02.2010 23:19, Kevin Keane wrote:
> >> WPKG does __not__ scan the installed software and remove anything,
> >> which does not match the profile of the computer.
> >
> > To be honest, I don't completely trust WPKG in this respect. I have never
> been able to conclusively determine any scenario, but I could have sworn I
> had seen WPKG remove software that had never been part of the profile (even
> after we discussed it on this list a couple months ago).
>
> This would be quite magic since there is no code in wpkg.js to scan for
> software
> which is not within the profile assigned to the host and which was never
> part of
> the profile.
>
> So WPKG does never touch any part of the system which is not under its
> control
> (means not within the profile at any time). WPKG also never executes
> commands
> you didn not specify within the package definition. So if you do not have
> any
> commands which could make WPKG to remove Firefox it will never be able to
> remove
> it. Even if you have a Firefox package in your packages.xml which is NOT
> assigned to the host WPKG will never ever run any of these commands unless
> you
> assign that package to the host at least once.
>
> If you find a reproducible case where WPKG would "invent" some
> code/commands
> please let me know, I would be very interested to analyze it.
>
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Will WPKG uninstall software it did not install?

[Peter Gough]

My experience is that this is *mostly* true.

For example if you decide to roll out v1 of a package but a user has already
manually installed v2 and your check only looks for v1 files then you could
potentially have a situation where wpkg tries to install the older version
on top of the newer version. This would happen when your check conditions
fail even if the software is already installed.

My advice would be to setup a test environment first, rollout wpkg to a
select pilot group of patient users and then introduce the across the rest
of your machines.

BTW are users really able to install anything they want in your environment?
Sounds like a recipe for potential disaster!

On 26 February 2010 21:50, Chris Wilcox  wrote:

>
> > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:33:20 +
> > From: jetsho...@o2.co.uk
> > To: wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org
> > Subject: [wpkg-users] Will WPKG uninstall software it did not install?
>
> >
> > Will wpkg uninstall software it did not install, if said software is
> > installed on the computer, has an entry in packages.xml, but is not in
> > the relevant profile?
> >
> > The desired behaviour for myself is that wpkg _not_ do that. Since users
> > are allowed to install their own software if they want.
>
> WPKG will only manage software it installs/uninstalls, it will not touch
> user installed software.
>
> Chris
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Re: [wpkg-users] Recover domain user password

[Peter Gough]

It works for me on Ubuntu 9.04.

Dan - would you be happy for this to be made available on the wiki?

On 24 February 2010 17:27, Daniel Dehennin wrote:

> Justin Brinegar  writes:
>
> > What version of python must I use to use this?
> >
> > I get this:
> >
> > (11:15:33) 1005 /Users/brinegar/Desktop % > python wpkg-pass.py -c
> > 'BJ+xWYhfskAD2lbx'
> >   File "wpkg-pass.py", line 4
> > From struct import pack, unpack
> >   ^
> > SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> >
> > I tried this with 2.6.1 and 2.4.4.
>
> I use what comes in debian sid: python 2.5.5.
>
> It seems to be a standard library module[1]. I wonder why you have:
>
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> From struct import pack, unpack
>  ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
>
> And not:
>
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> from struct import pack, unpack
>  ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
>
> Maybe the line ending?
>
> Footnotes:
> [1]  http://docs.python.org/library/struct.html
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[wpkg-users] Recover domain user password

[Peter Gough]

I've setup my Windows XP WPKG clients to use a domain user account to
connect to my server's WPKG share. Unfortunately in a moment of stupidity I
reset the password for this account. Is there a way to reverse engineer the
encrypted password in the settings.xml file?

Thanks,

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Re: [wpkg-users] Variable expansion question

[Peter Gough]

I've never managed to get this to work for my clients. It's a bit of a pain
but I end up replacing the %software% variable in my individual package.xml
files with the FQDN of my server's share. For some reason my wpkg clients
even insist on the FQDN and won't resolve the hostname alone.

On 18 February 2010 05:56, Landers, Paul  wrote:

> I'm having difficulties understanding the expansion of the %SOFTWARE%
> variable.  I've created a custom path on my server from which to serve
> installers.  I've created the SOFTWARE variable in the client (version
> 1.3.14) and I've set and verified the path in my silent installer.  However,
> when I run cscript /debug from the client I receive a "file not found" error
> from the silent installer, as if the expanded path is incorrect.  I can
> successfully browse to the installer folder from Windows Explorer.  Is there
> a way to discover how the wpkg client is actually expanding the %SOFTWARE%
> variable, similar to a shell >echo $SOFTWARE ?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Paul
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Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working

[Peter Gough]

I'll do some testing but am a bit wary about deploying beta software into a
production environment. I think the only big win for us would be the ability
to 'brand' the dialog box and this probably isn't a compelling enough
reason.

On 5 February 2010 23:59, Tomasz Chmielewski  wrote:

> On 02/05/10 08:54, Peter Gough wrote:
>
>  I've tried updating my test clients to 1.3.9 but get an error messsage
>> relating to the WPKG service. I understand from previous correspondance
>> that there are known issues with this version on SP3 - hopefully these
>> will be ironed out at some stage in the future but I'm pretty happy for
>> the time being with what I've got working.
>>
>
> You may want to try:
>
> http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/1.3.12/
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Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working

[Peter Gough]

Many thanks for the clarification. I've played around again with this today
and it looks like adding '/sendStatus' to the command line options in WPKG
Client and setting the sendStatus value to 'true' in the 'settings.xml' file
on the server gives me information messages together with the regular
message box.

This is on Windows XP SP3 clients using 1.3.6 WPKG Client.

I've tried updating my test clients to 1.3.9 but get an error messsage
relating to the WPKG service. I understand from previous correspondance that
there are known issues with this version on SP3 - hopefully these will be
ironed out at some stage in the future but I'm pretty happy for the time
being with what I've got working.

Many thanks for all of your hard work in providing WPKG; it really is much
appreciated!

Peter

On 5 February 2010 17:12, Rainer Meier  wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> On 05.02.2010 01:34, Peter Gough wrote:
> > I just wondered if you couid confirm what your users see on the screen
> > when the workstation is shutting down. I've never been able to get
> > anything to display apart from the alternating status messages despite
> > trying to set this up as you have described.
> >
> > I've got this set in the Client's WPKG parameters:
> >
> > /synchronize /nonotify /quiet
> >
> > I've got the WPKG user interface dialog box unticked and I've set
> > sendStatus value in the config.xml file on my server to 'true'.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
>
> First a few words for better understanding. WPKG is split into a "Server"
> and a
> "Client" Part. The Server-Part is implemented in wpkg.js. Well, actually
> it's
> not a real server but rather a script executed on the client. The Client
> part is
> "WPKG Client" which just executes wpkg.js depending on your settings. WPKG
> Client is optional and you might also invoke wpkg.js using any other
> method.
> However WPKG Client offers a couple of nice features like running wpkg.js
> at
> startup/shutdown or blocking user input during wpkg.js execution.
>
> Such features need to be implemented on a quite low level in the operating
> system. Currently logon delay only works on Windows prior to Vista. The
> logon
> delay feature allows you to display messages (alternating) to the user.
>
> It was intended to extend this static message display into a dynamic status
> update shown to the user. However there are a couple of technical
> limitations.
> First of all wpkg.js will have to communicate with WPKG client in order to
> update the status displayed to the user. Remember: wpkg.js executes the job
> and
> WPKG client prevents user input and displays messages.
> Unfortunately IPC technologies are quite limited from WSH/JScript. So for
> the
> moment wpkg.js only supports writing the status updates to STDOUT if
> /sendStatus
> is enabled (or sendStatus within config.xml is switched on).
>
> Honestly I am not fully sure if WPKG Client already supports reading from
> STDIN
> and showing these messages to the user. Personally I prefer not to block
> users
> and run WPKG silently in the background. Another reason for me is that
> logon/shutdown delay is not something easily achievable by standard API and
> as
> Vista shows it might be even blocked/prevented by the OS. I am using
> /sendStatus
> usually when I run WPKG from a memory-stick to update offline nodes. So I
> can
> see the progress of package installation within the console window.
>
> So please note that config.xml controls behavior or wpkg.js but sendStatus
> will
> only make wpkg.js to print status information to the console. If this
> information is picked up and displayed to the user depends on the method
> used to
> run wpkg.js (console, client application which picks up the output).
>
> br,
> Rainer
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Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working

[Peter Gough]

Pendl,

I just wondered if you couid confirm what your users see on the screen when
the workstation is shutting down. I've never been able to get anything to
display apart from the alternating status messages despite trying to set
this up as you have described.

I've got this set in the Client's WPKG parameters:

/synchronize /nonotify /quiet

I've got the WPKG user interface dialog box unticked and I've set sendStatus
value in the config.xml file on my server to 'true'.

Any thoughts?

Peter

On 4 February 2010 21:57, Pendl Stefan  wrote:

> >
> > G'day All,
> >
> > Just a small problem we're having with the WPKGClient, we are
> > unable to
> > get it to display any status information from WPKG. It would
> > be great if
> > it displays what WPKG is currently doing, rather than just alternating
> > between two messages... is this possible?
> >
> > We are using the latest version of WPKG and the config.xml is set to
> > 
> > We are using WPKG Client version 1.3.9 and have the 'WPKG User
> > Interface' Show=ticked.
> > We have tried adding the /sendStatus switch to the Client 'WPKG
> > parameters'... E.G. /synchronize /debug /sendStatus (although
> > I wouldn't
> > think you need the parameter if we have the .xml set)
> >
> > We are deploying to Windows XP SP3 workstations
> >
> > Is there anything else we need? Does SP3 break it?
> >
>
> I do have over 100 Windows XP SP3 machines running WPKG client 1.3.9 with
> displaying status information.
>
> I am using WPKG 1.1.3 latest RC, but this was working with 1.1.2 already.
>
> I only enabled the setting in config.xml and use the default command line
> for the client settings.
>
> I have showGUI disabled, since this is used for a different thing.
>
> WPKG client executes at shutdown at my site, which reduces conflicts and
> complexity.
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Re: [wpkg-users] load balancing

[Peter Gough]

Do them on the weekend and claim the overtime ;-)

2009/7/28 Rainer Meier 

> Hi,
>
> Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
> > I did some experiments with multicasting (copy the file to the local
> > machine using multicast), but it didn't work reliably and setup was
> > complicated.
> >
> > In reality, it perhaps makes sense to split the configuration into
> > logical groups (rooms, floors etc.) - and deploy one after another
> > (Monday - rooms 1xx, 2xx, Tuesday - 3xx etc.).
> > This also prevents you from simple mistakes to some extent: if you made
> > a package which doesn't start (i.e. uninstalls the old version, but
> > doesn't install a new version, leaving you with no software installed),
> > not all users will be affected.
>
> I fully agree to the proposal and would like to add another possibility. If
> you
> frequently need to deploy this amount of data it might even make sense to
> add
> more servers to deploy the software. So groups of clients could access
> their own
> local WPKG server. In easiest case even a workgroup NAS in an office could
> serve
> local clients while WPKG updates are pushed using rsync or similar.
>
> However I don't recommend this approach for large enterprises. It's more
> suitable for small or medium sized companies with multiple locations where
> remote traffic to the central server should be avoided.
>
> So if your 1500 clients are on the same site as the server adding multiple
> profiles to segment the roll-out looks suitable. The easiest way to achieve
> this
> might be to duplicate your WPKG installation into multiple directories and
> having each group of clients pointing to another installation. Just
> creating
> multiple profiles is usually not enough since a package can by definition
> exist
> only once in the package tree - so as soon as you update it all clients
> referring to this package (no matter from which profile) will trigger an
> update.
>
>
> Alternatively deploying more server power (load-balancers etc.) seems to me
> it
> could be overkill since upgrading large packages like OOo is not an
> every-day task.
>
> Another possibility which comes to my mind is: Why not running the upgrade
> manually to spread the load?
> Larger enterprises (like yours seem to be) quite often use hardware which
> supports WoL (Wake On LAN). So just wake up the machines at midnight and
> let
> them deploy the software. If you can't reach a few of them it does not
> matter a
> lot because the remaining ones would not overload your server in the
> morning.
> On clients which are already running you might remotely run the WPKG
> service to
> initiate the deployment.
>
> Hopefully this gives some hints.
>
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Suggestion for the WPKG message

[Peter Gough]

I know, but sadly my skills don't lie in programming :-(

2009/6/17 Tomasz Chmielewski 

> Peter Gough wrote:
>
>> It would be great if it was possible to put in a delay of some sort before
>> the window appeared. For example if there was a delay of say 20 seconds
>> before the window was displayed then the chances are that wpkg.js would have
>> completed its checks and the user wouldn't see the window as it would
>> already have handed off to the login screen.
>>
>> Any thoughts on whether this is achievable?
>>
>
> The source code is available, feel free to contribute ;)
>
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Suggestion for the WPKG message

[Peter Gough]

It would be great if it was possible to put in a delay of some sort before
the window appeared. For example if there was a delay of say 20 seconds
before the window was displayed then the chances are that wpkg.js would have
completed its checks and the user wouldn't see the window as it would
already have handed off to the login screen.

Any thoughts on whether this is achievable?

2009/6/16 Tomasz Chmielewski 

> luca_mangane...@comune.trento.it wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> it's possible to show the WPKG message window (that processes all
>> installations) to show up only when an installation/uninstallation is
>> really running and not everytime?
>>
>
> No.
> As WPKG Client shows this window, we don't really know if there are any
> packages to be installed or to be removed; wpkg.js is just starting in the
> background to discover that.
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] Office 2003 uninstall problem

[Peter Gough]

The other thing you could try is running it without the /qn switch on a test
machine to see what's really happening during the uninstall, although
Rainer's suggestion is probably the way to go for Office.

2009/4/18 Rainer Meier 

> Hi "mattmole"
>
> mattmole wrote:
> > I am attempting to uninstall Microsoft Office 2003. I have used the
> example
> > from wpkg.org to create my rule:
> >
> >  > id="Office2003"
> > name = "Install Office2003"
> > reboot="true"
> > >
> >   
> >   
> >>
> cmd='\\10.240.250.246\packages\package_files\office\MSOffice2003\v1.0.0.1\SETUP.EXE'/>
> >   
> >   
> > 
> >
> > As can be seen from the above, I have tried two check types and the error
> > returned is the same:
> >
> > "
> > Could not process (remove) "Install Office 2003"
> > Package still installed
> > "
> >
> > This is very interesting as by running either uninstall command manually
> I
> > find that Office 2003 does successfully uninstall.
> >
> > Any ideas?
>
> Try running it within a command line call:
> cmd /c "msiexec /qn /x {90110409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}"
>
> Why don't you stick to the command using the MSI file - usually that works
> great.
>
> My personal command-line I use to uninstlal Office 2003 (works great):
>
> msiexec /x "%SOFTWARE%\office2003\PRO11.MSI" /qn
>
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> Rainer
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Re: [wpkg-users] Office 2003 uninstall problem

[Peter Gough]

I'm happy for this to sound a bit dumb idea but do you need a space after
the /x switch in this line?:



I'm not sure how finickety msiexec is on syntax.

Pete

2009/4/17 mattmole 

>
> Hi All,
>
> I am attempting to uninstall Microsoft Office 2003. I have used the example
> from wpkg.org to create my rule:
>
> id="Office2003"
>name = "Install Office2003"
>reboot="true"
>>
>
>
>
> cmd='\\10.240.250.246\packages\package_files\office\MSOffice2003\v1.0.0.1\SETUP.EXE'/>
>
>
>
>
> As can be seen from the above, I have tried two check types and the error
> returned is the same:
>
> "
> Could not process (remove) "Install Office 2003"
> Package still installed
> "
>
> This is very interesting as by running either uninstall command manually I
> find that Office 2003 does successfully uninstall.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> Cheers in advance
>
> mattmole
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Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 141] Unable to install client through software group policy

[Peter Gough]

True, although user impatience isn't limited to software installation ;-)

We've used Group Policy to assign packages and generally the process is
pretty smooth but if we're undertaking a major roll-out then we'll
communicate this to the users ahead of time and potentially schedule
installs to suit them. After all, nobody wants the full MS Office install
kicking off when they're about to present their PowerPoint slides to the
CEO!

2009/3/16 Tomasz Chmielewski 

> Peter Gough schrieb:
>
>> AFAIK in MS world it doesn't really matter. You can use switches if you're
>> installing packages using scripts.but if you assign a package via GP then
>> the user sees a message at startup or logon telling them that Windows is
>> installing (or removing) a package. Obviously this isn't a true silent
>> install but I've never met a user who complained about it.
>>
>
> I've seen users hard-rebooting their workstations when software deployment
> via GPO took longer than a few minutes - the users thought installation
> hanged.
>
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 141] Unable to install client through software group policy

[Peter Gough]

AFAIK in MS world it doesn't really matter. You can use switches if you're
installing packages using scripts.but if you assign a package via GP then
the user sees a message at startup or logon telling them that Windows is
installing (or removing) a package. Obviously this isn't a true silent
install but I've never met a user who complained about it.

Quite happy to be corrected on this but that's the way I've always seen it
done.

Peter

2009/3/16 Chris Wilcox 

>  Hi,
>
> I'm not a big user of the AD for package allocation but as far as I was
> aware you can specify parameters to use during installation when using the
> AD?
>
> If not then how do you do silent installs of MSI's?  That uses additional
> parameters (e.g. /q) so the parameters needed to roll out the WPKG client
> should be fine to use?
>
> Not all MSI apps use MST files to set install parameters...
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
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> CC: wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org
> Subject: Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 141] Unable to install client through
> software group policy
>
>
> The MS approach is that you must use transform files (.mst) to modify the
> package. There are apps which will let you work with these (Orca and InstEd
> both spring to mind) but there is no way to directly enter command line
> switches in AD.
>
> Peter
>
> On 16/03/2009, *bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.wpkg.org* <
> bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.wpkg.org> wrote:
>
> http://bugzilla.wpkg.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Comment #4 from Tomasz Chmielewski   2009-03-15
> 14:01:44 ---
> I think we could do it.
>
> Although it's really hard for me to believe that Active Directory really
> does
> not allow setting parameters to MSI packages it deploys via GPO.
>
> What a system for deploying MSI packages it is if it can't really deploy
> MSI
> packages?
>
> Every second MSI installer has such parameters - activation key, inf file
> with
> settings, other options.
>
>
> Did anyone try asking at a Windows-specific mailing list if such parameters
> are
> somehow settable via GPO?
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 141] Unable to install client through software group policy

[Peter Gough]

Many thanks for the quick response.

I'm still canvassing my pilot group of users about what they'd like to see
when the software is working its magic but I think the WPKG message will be
more useful than the generic Windows 'Running Startup Scripts...' message.

Unfortunately I've yet to see the WPKG logon window so if you've got any
recommendations for troubleshooting its disappearance that would be great,
otherwise I think I'm pretty much sorted!

Peter

2009/3/16 Tomasz Chmielewski 

> Peter Gough schrieb:
>
>> Does this mean that if I want to install the client using Group Policy all
>> I need to do is create a batch file with 'cscript \\path\to\wpkg.js
>> /install:wpkgclient' as the first line and as long as I've got a package
>> called 'wpkgclient' in my packages.xml file it will be installed?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>  If that's the case then is there any benefit to installing the client as
>> surely I could use this process to install any software.
>>
>
> For example Samba does not have GPO and this is the main reason why WPKG
> Client was developed.
>
> But even if you use AD, you may find WPKG Client's "logon window" more
> informative. Or any other of WPKG Client's features.
> If you don't need it, using GPO only should be fine for you.
>
>
>  Additionally would it then be possible to use the 'cscript
>> \\path\to\wpkg.js /synchronize /quiet' line in a batch file and let my
>> workstations synch with the server for all of my packages without installing
>> the client?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>  Does this mean that as long as my hosts.xml, packages.xml, profiles.xml
>> and settings.xml files are in the same folder as wpkg.js they would all be
>> used by the client?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 141] Unable to install client through software group policy

[Peter Gough]

Does this mean that if I want to install the client using Group Policy all I
need to do is create a batch file with 'cscript \\path\to\wpkg.js
/install:wpkgclient' as the first line and as long as I've got a package
called 'wpkgclient' in my packages.xml file it will be installed?

If that's the case then is there any benefit to installing the client as
surely I could use this process to install any software. Additionally would
it then be possible to use the 'cscript \\path\to\wpkg.js /synchronize
/quiet' line in a batch file and let my workstations synch with the server
for all of my packages without installing the client? Does this mean that as
long as my hosts.xml, packages.xml, profiles.xml and settings.xml files are
in the same folder as wpkg.js they would all be used by the client?

Sorry for being a bit slow on this one but I'm trying to get my head around
what benefit I get from installing the client.

Thanks,

Peter

On 16/03/2009, Tomasz Chmielewski  wrote:
>
> Peter Gough schrieb:
>
>> The MS approach is that you must use transform files (.mst) to modify the
>> package. There are apps which will let you work with these (Orca and InstEd
>> both spring to mind) but there is no way to directly enter command line
>> switches in AD.
>>
>
> I see.
>
> Let's follow the market leader then - limit install commands in WPKG to
> one, and forbid any additional options/parameters ;)
>
> I added it to the TO DO list - installer should search for settingsfile in
> the same directory where the MSI file is located.
>
>
> Before it's added, as a workaround, one can add a script to GPO which will
> do:
>
> cscript \\path\to\wpkg.js /install:wpkgclient
>
>
> With a proper XML package (see http://wpkg.org/WPKG) it will install WPKG
> Client once, even if the script is started many times.
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 141] Unable to install client through software group policy

[Peter Gough]

The MS approach is that you must use transform files (.mst) to modify the
package. There are apps which will let you work with these (Orca and InstEd
both spring to mind) but there is no way to directly enter command line
switches in AD.

Peter

On 16/03/2009, bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.wpkg.org <
bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.wpkg.org> wrote:
>
> http://bugzilla.wpkg.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Comment #4 from Tomasz Chmielewski   2009-03-15
> 14:01:44 ---
> I think we could do it.
>
> Although it's really hard for me to believe that Active Directory really
> does
> not allow setting parameters to MSI packages it deploys via GPO.
>
> What a system for deploying MSI packages it is if it can't really deploy
> MSI
> packages?
>
> Every second MSI installer has such parameters - activation key, inf file
> with
> settings, other options.
>
>
> Did anyone try asking at a Windows-specific mailing list if such parameters
> are
> somehow settable via GPO?
>
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Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG - possibly stupid questions

[Peter Gough]

Bart,

Would it be possible to post the script? This sounds like it might be the
most straightforward way to implement things.

Thanks,

Peter

On 14/03/2009, Bart van Egmond  wrote:
>
>  Hi Pete,
>
> I think it is not possible to use group policy to deploy WPKG at the moment
> ( see this bug: http://bugzilla.wpkg.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141 ). In my
> network, I wrote a small startup script that checks if WPKG is installed and
> else it runs the installation (and reboot). This is all working perfect and
> using this method there are no downsides.
>
> Bart
>
> Adam Williams wrote:
>
> for option 3, the cscript dos client can only connect to file shares as the
> guest account.  also cscript doesn't exist on XP/Vista 64-bit, you have to
> use the GUI client.  the GUI client comes as an .msi you should be able to
> push out via group policy.
>
> Peter Gough wrote:
>
> I'm trying to get my head around the best way to implement WPKG in our
> environment but am struggling to work out the most appropriate options.
> We're running Windows Server 2003 with Active Directory and Windows XP SP3
> on workstations.
>
> I have created a share, granted read-only permissions to my 'wpkg-user'
> account, copied the server files into it, created some subfolders for my
> packages and updated the hosts.xml, packages.xml and profiles.xml files as
> described in the wiki.
>
> I have also installed wpkg-client on a single workstation, configured it to
> point to this share and exported my settings.xml file to the same share as
> the other server files.
>
> As I understand it I can now do the following:
>
> 1, push the client application to my workstations using psexec. If I do
> this then the workstations would run the wpkg service, access the share,
> check their status against the hosts.xml file to see if they are in any
> profile groups and would then install packages as required. Once each client
> connects (at startup?) they would write a local wpkg.xml file to
> %system%\system32.
>
> 2, as above but use Group Policy to deliver the client to workstations,
> however I can't work out how to apply the install switches as described in
> the documentation. I've tried using GP to run a script with the full command
> line but when I try to do this I get an error that the package is invalid.
>
> 3, use a GP script to run *'cscript \\server\path\to\WPKG\wpkg.js
> /synchronize /quiet /nonotify' *or the wpkg-start.bat file at startup.
> Doing this would mean that I don't need to install the client but the
> downside is that I don't seem to get any wpkg dialog boxes when Windows
> starts - all the user sees is the generic 'running startup scripts' message
> from GP and given that some of the installs take a while this might lead
> some users to restart their machines thinking they have hung. I also can't
> get this to work unless I give 'authenticated users' permissions to read the
> shared folders which means that there doesn't seem to be any benefit to
> setting up the wpkg-user account.
>
> Can somebody who has done this let me know what the benefits would be in
> using the client install over option 3. If there are some tangible benefits
> then can you let me know if it is possible to install the client using GP.
> If option 3 is preferred for my environment then can somebody point me
> towards how I might go about solving my missing dialog box issue and whether
> there are any other issues I need to think about prior to implementation.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
> Pete
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[wpkg-users] WPKG - possibly stupid questions

[Peter Gough]

I'm trying to get my head around the best way to implement WPKG in our
environment but am struggling to work out the most appropriate options.
We're running Windows Server 2003 with Active Directory and Windows XP SP3
on workstations.

I have created a share, granted read-only permissions to my 'wpkg-user'
account, copied the server files into it, created some subfolders for my
packages and updated the hosts.xml, packages.xml and profiles.xml files as
described in the wiki.

I have also installed wpkg-client on a single workstation, configured it to
point to this share and exported my settings.xml file to the same share as
the other server files.

As I understand it I can now do the following:

1, push the client application to my workstations using psexec. If I do this
then the workstations would run the wpkg service, access the share, check
their status against the hosts.xml file to see if they are in any profile
groups and would then install packages as required. Once each client
connects (at startup?) they would write a local wpkg.xml file to
%system%\system32.

2, as above but use Group Policy to deliver the client to workstations,
however I can't work out how to apply the install switches as described in
the documentation. I've tried using GP to run a script with the full command
line but when I try to do this I get an error that the package is invalid.

3, use a GP script to run *'cscript \\server\path\to\WPKG\wpkg.js
/synchronize /quiet /nonotify' *or the wpkg-start.bat file at startup. Doing
this would mean that I don't need to install the client but the downside is
that I don't seem to get any wpkg dialog boxes when Windows starts - all the
user sees is the generic 'running startup scripts' message from GP and given
that some of the installs take a while this might lead some users to restart
their machines thinking they have hung. I also can't get this to work unless
I give 'authenticated users' permissions to read the shared folders which
means that there doesn't seem to be any benefit to setting up the wpkg-user
account.

Can somebody who has done this let me know what the benefits would be in
using the client install over option 3. If there are some tangible benefits
then can you let me know if it is possible to install the client using GP.
If option 3 is preferred for my environment then can somebody point me
towards how I might go about solving my missing dialog box issue and whether
there are any other issues I need to think about prior to implementation.

Many thanks in advance,

Pete
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