[wpkg-users] Can't have download functionnality working

2009-01-28 Thread Nicolas LEBRUN
Hi !

I'am a new user of wpkg ( version 1.1M6) with wpkg_web. I'm using the 
wpkg-client 1.3.6 on the client ... Everything is OK.

But i can't find any way to have the download functionnality working.

I always get the same error : Invaid download target specified : null 
( with invaid, not invalid )

Here's what I'm doing :

- added param name='downloadDir' value='c:\\temp' / in config.xml, as 
written in CHANGELOG of version 1.1 M6.
I tried %HOMEDRIVE% and another share ntinstall\\install\\packages
I also tried slashes instead backslashes

- here's the package i'm using (written in wpkg_web )
package id=firefox3 name=Firefox version 3 revision=300 
priority=1 reboot=false
!-- Téléchargement et installation de firefox 3 --
download lang=ALL 
url=http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0.5%26os=win%26lang=fr; 
saveto=essai/Firefox Setup 3.0.5.exe/
check type=uninstall condition=exists path=Mozilla 
Firefox (3.0.5)/
install cmd=taskkill /F /IM Firefox.exe
exit code=0/
exit code=128/
/install
install cmd=c:\temp\essai\Firefox Setup 3.0.5.exe -ms/
remove cmd=%PROGRAMFILES%\Mozilla 
Firefox\uninstall\helper.exe /s/
upgrade cmd=taskkill /F /IM Firefox.exe
exit code=0/
exit code=128/
/upgrade
upgrade cmd=c:\temp\essai\Firefox Setup 3.0.5.exe -ms/
/package

- don't think if it's usefull, but added wget.exe' in tools directory

- wpkg.js is located at \\wksapps\wpkg$\ , i would like to be able to 
ntinstall\\install\\packages

- Before posting, I googled a lot, searched in 
http://wpkg.linuxkidd.com/ and wpkg.org, and even in svn repositories...

What am I missing ?

Best regards

Nicolas Lebrun







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Re: [wpkg-users] Can't have download functionnality working

2009-01-28 Thread Rainer Meier
Hi Nicolas,

Nicolas LEBRUN wrote:
 Hi !
 
 I'am a new user of wpkg ( version 1.1M6) with wpkg_web. I'm using the 
 wpkg-client 1.3.6 on the client ... Everything is OK.

Wpkg_web is currently not under active development not.


 But i can't find any way to have the download functionnality working.

Right - quite sure it's related to wpkg_web usage. The download feature
within wpkg_web has been implemented without WPKG support (or there
might be some support within an older 0.xx release. Note that WPKG has
been almost completely rewritten for version 1.0 (and version 1.0 did
not include the download feature).
WPKG 1.1.x pre-release contains a download feature but it's implemented
slightly differently and more robust than the way wpkg_web was thinking
about it. The syntax is described within the change notes:

examples:
 package...
 download url=http://example.org/package.exe; target=package.exe /
 install cmd=%TEMP%\file.exe some arguments ...
   download url=http://example.org/file.exe; target=file.exe /
 /install
 install cmd=%TEMP%\file2.exe some arguments ...
   download url=http://example.org/file2.exe; target=file2.exe /
 /install
 upgrade cmd=%TEMP%\update.exe arguments ...
   download url=http://example.org/update.exe; target=update.exe /
 /upgrade
 /package


As you can see the download command is part of the command section
now. Not part of the global section.

So unfortunately the way wpgk_web is creating download information is
incompatible with the implementation in WPKG.
In any case I strongly suggest not to use the download feature and use
SMB/CIFS shares instead. This is considered to be much more robust way
of deployment than downloading packages via HTTP.

If you really want to use it (at no support of course) then you need to
write your XML files manually or export them from wpkg_web and extend
them manually.


Another possibility might be to use a CMD script during installation
which is using wget or a similar tool to download files before
installing them.

br,
Rainer


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Re: [wpkg-users] Can't have download functionnality working

2009-01-28 Thread Nicolas LEBRUN
Thanks Rainer, for this answer...

Actually, I think I won't use wpkg_web anymore ... or try to see if a 
minor adaptation of wpkg-web could repair...

Just hope another front-end to wpkg will appear ... In fact, I 
personnaly don't need it but some admins in our high schools would 
appreciate...

Best regards

Nicolas

Rainer Meier a écrit :
 Hi Nicolas,
 
 Nicolas LEBRUN wrote:
 Hi !

 I'am a new user of wpkg ( version 1.1M6) with wpkg_web. I'm using the 
 wpkg-client 1.3.6 on the client ... Everything is OK.
 
 Wpkg_web is currently not under active development not.
 
 
 But i can't find any way to have the download functionnality working.
 
 Right - quite sure it's related to wpkg_web usage. The download feature
 within wpkg_web has been implemented without WPKG support (or there
 might be some support within an older 0.xx release. Note that WPKG has
 been almost completely rewritten for version 1.0 (and version 1.0 did
 not include the download feature).
 WPKG 1.1.x pre-release contains a download feature but it's implemented
 slightly differently and more robust than the way wpkg_web was thinking
 about it. The syntax is described within the change notes:
 
 examples:
  package...
  download url=http://example.org/package.exe; target=package.exe /
  install cmd=%TEMP%\file.exe some arguments ...
download url=http://example.org/file.exe; target=file.exe /
  /install
  install cmd=%TEMP%\file2.exe some arguments ...
download url=http://example.org/file2.exe; target=file2.exe /
  /install
  upgrade cmd=%TEMP%\update.exe arguments ...
download url=http://example.org/update.exe; target=update.exe /
  /upgrade
  /package
 
 
 As you can see the download command is part of the command section
 now. Not part of the global section.
 
 So unfortunately the way wpgk_web is creating download information is
 incompatible with the implementation in WPKG.
 In any case I strongly suggest not to use the download feature and use
 SMB/CIFS shares instead. This is considered to be much more robust way
 of deployment than downloading packages via HTTP.
 
 If you really want to use it (at no support of course) then you need to
 write your XML files manually or export them from wpkg_web and extend
 them manually.
 
 
 Another possibility might be to use a CMD script during installation
 which is using wget or a similar tool to download files before
 installing them.
 
 br,
 Rainer
 
 
 

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Re: [wpkg-users] Can't have download functionnality working

2009-01-28 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
Nicolas LEBRUN schrieb:
 Thanks Rainer, for this answer...
 
 Actually, I think I won't use wpkg_web anymore ... or try to see if a 
 minor adaptation of wpkg-web could repair...
 
 Just hope another front-end to wpkg will appear ... In fact, I 
 personnaly don't need it but some admins in our high schools would 
 appreciate...

You may check wpkgExpress: http://mscdex.blogspot.com/search/label/wpkg

I didn't use it, so can't tell much about it - any feedback, 
screenshots, working demo... here on the list would be appreciated.


-- 
Tomasz Chmielewski
http://wpkg.org

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Re: [wpkg-users] Can't have download functionnality working

2009-01-28 Thread mscdex
On 1/28/09, Tomasz Chmielewski man...@wpkg.org wrote:

 Nicolas LEBRUN schrieb:

  Thanks Rainer, for this answer...
 
  Actually, I think I won't use wpkg_web anymore ... or try to see if a
  minor adaptation of wpkg-web could repair...
 
  Just hope another front-end to wpkg will appear ... In fact, I
  personnaly don't need it but some admins in our high schools would
  appreciate...


 You may check wpkgExpress: http://mscdex.blogspot.com/search/label/wpkg

 I didn't use it, so can't tell much about it - any feedback,
 screenshots, working demo... here on the list would be appreciated.



 --
 Tomasz Chmielewski
 http://wpkg.org


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Hello,

I'm the one who is working on wpkgExpress. I'd like to get a couple more
things implemented before a beta release is made.

Regarding the download functionality, over the Christmas break I worked on a
PHP-based modular download system (works in conjunction with a download tag)
that provides fairly decent, extensible download support. It's not
integrated with wpkgExpress and can be used separately. To date, I've only
created modules for download.com and filehippo (which is based on the bash
script by John Price that was made available on this list awhile back), as
well as a simple download module that essentially works similarly to what
the current wpkg download tag does. I will try and package it up as soon as
I can and make it available online for those who are interested.
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