Re: [wpkg-users] Disable FBWF before installing software
Heiko's solution seems to make sense, it should work but then when I want to disable the FBWF manually, I would have to disable WPKG-GP too or it would be enabled and rebooted on next restart so I have to take that in account. I haven't had time to test but I will report as soon as I can. But about Stefan's remark, it would indeed be better to make a separate "disable FBWF" package which would be called from each of the original packages, but I don't think there's a way to do it currently or is there ? Jonathan Verdeyen IT Engineer Automatic Systems S.A. - Avenue Mercator, 5 - 1300 Wavre - Belgique Phone: +32 (0)10 23 02 97 - Fax : +32 (0)10 23 02 02 www.automatic-systems.com Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail. -Original Message- From: wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org [mailto:wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Pendl Sent: vendredi 16 novembre 2012 09:12 To: heiko.hel...@horiba.com Cc: wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org Subject: Re: [wpkg-users] Disable FBWF before installing software Am 14.11.2012 18:24, schrieb heiko.hel...@horiba.com: > > > > > > Wouldn't this cause a reboot loop? The enable and disable package > both > > need an immediate reboot... > > > > One could set an environment variable to avoid this, which gets > checked > to prevent the execution of the install commands. > > > > The reboot loop problem exists with the first solution presented to > the > OP too. > > > > Does it? > > First Boot: > the says FBWF is on, so FBWF gets disabled and an the > system boots immediately ( prio0-package won't get installed (because it is execute=change). > System boots normal. > > Of course getting this bug-free is a challenge (one bad package def > will cause a reboot loop) - but i think it's possible. Sure there will be the need to include a flagging system to prevent a reboot loop, but that is needed for both ways. One will have to decide which way is adding less to the overall amount of maintenance of the packages. I myself would not want to have the same type of code in all of my packages. Sure there are ways to automate this, like it is shown by the Firefox extensions, that use a common framework which gets filled in while the package is read. -- Stefan P. Top-posting: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users __ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com __ Ce message et toutes les pièces jointes (ci-après le "message") sont confidentiels et établis à l'intention exclusive de ses destinataires. Toute utilisation ou diffusion non autorisée est interdite. Si vous n'êtes pas destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire immédiatement et d'avertir l'expéditeur. --> Pensez à l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce message. This message and any attachments (the "message") are confidential and intended solely for the addressees. Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee of this message, please delete it immediately and inform the sender. --> Please consider the environment before printing this email. __ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com __ - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Disable FBWF before installing software
Am 14.11.2012 18:24, schrieb heiko.hel...@horiba.com: > > > > Wouldn't this cause a reboot loop? The enable and disable package both > > need an immediate reboot... > > One could set an environment variable to avoid this, which gets checked > to prevent the execution of the install commands. > > The reboot loop problem exists with the first solution presented to the > OP too. > Does it? First Boot: the says FBWF is on, so FBWF gets disabled and an the system boots immediately ( Sure there will be the need to include a flagging system to prevent a reboot loop, but that is needed for both ways. One will have to decide which way is adding less to the overall amount of maintenance of the packages. I myself would not want to have the same type of code in all of my packages. Sure there are ways to automate this, like it is shown by the Firefox extensions, that use a common framework which gets filled in while the package is read. -- Stefan P. Top-posting: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Disable FBWF before installing software
> > > > Wouldn't this cause a reboot loop? The enable and disable package both > > need an immediate reboot... > > One could set an environment variable to avoid this, which gets checked > to prevent the execution of the install commands. > > The reboot loop problem exists with the first solution presented to the > OP too. > Does it? First Boot: the says FBWF is on, so FBWF gets disabled and an the system boots immediately (- wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Disable FBWF before installing software
Am 14.11.2012 18:02, schrieb heiko.hel...@horiba.com: > > > > How about disabling FBWF with a package of priority using > execute="always" and enabling it with a package of priority 0 also using > execute="always", so you won't have to implement this in each and every > package? Wouldn't this cause a reboot loop? The enable and disable package both need an immediate reboot... One could set an environment variable to avoid this, which gets checked to prevent the execution of the install commands. The reboot loop problem exists with the first solution presented to the OP too. -- Stefan P. Top-posting: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Disable FBWF before installing software
> > > > How about disabling FBWF with a package of priority using > execute="always" and enabling it with a package of priority 0 also using > execute="always", so you won't have to implement this in each and every > package? Wouldn't this cause a reboot loop? The enable and disable package both need an immediate reboot...- wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Disable FBWF before installing software
Am 14.11.2012 08:40, schrieb heiko.hel...@horiba.com: > You can momentarily disable the FBWF to install programs and make > other changes to the system but it requires a reboot. > So : Disable FBWF > Reboot > Install Software > Enable FBWF > Reboot > So I have used WPKG-GP successfully to install some basic software > (Flash Player and what not) after disabling FBWF but would there be > a way to have WPKG disable the FBWF if software has to be installed, > reboot, proceed to the install and then re-enable it afterwards (and > reboot) without going in a reboot cycle ? > I guess the following might work: to disable before installation: (this would have to go in every package unfortunately) this will disable FBWF only if not already disabled and force an immediate reboot without marking the package as installed - on the next boot would skip this part and go on installing the package to enable after installation: have a package with priority 0 (so it installs last) and execute="changed" attributes. This means this package will only install if some other package hat a state change (install/upgrade/remove). Enable FBWF there. How about disabling FBWF with a package of priority using execute="always" and enabling it with a package of priority 0 also using execute="always", so you won't have to implement this in each and every package? -- Stefan P. Top-posting: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Disable FBWF before installing software
> You can momentarily disable the FBWF to install programs and make > other changes to the system but it requires a reboot. > So : Disable FBWF > Reboot > Install Software > Enable FBWF > Reboot > So I have used WPKG-GP successfully to install some basic software > (Flash Player and what not) after disabling FBWF but would there be > a way to have WPKG disable the FBWF if software has to be installed, > reboot, proceed to the install and then re-enable it afterwards (and > reboot) without going in a reboot cycle ? > I guess the following might work: to disable before installation: (this would have to go in every package unfortunately) this will disable FBWF only if not already disabled and force an immediate reboot without marking the package as installed - on the next boot would skip this part and go on installing the package to enable after installation: have a package with priority 0 (so it installs last) and execute="changed" attributes. This means this package will only install if some other package hat a state change (install/upgrade/remove). Enable FBWF there. - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
