Re: ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT
It's not your ideas, or the technique that carries them out.It's the subject you chose. Pollock's work has gathered a critique to itself that has yet to be plumbed, aswhat made him more than just someone who dripped paint onto canvas remains a mystery. I'd like to see more of what you're doing, but maybeusingother fulcrums. -Joel - Original Message - From: mwp To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: Re: ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT That's okay, JW. Everybody is certainly welcome to critique the work any way you like. For me, the piece is somewhat about taking a known entity and plunging it ever more deeply into chaos through a rigorous, logical process that a guy like Pollock would have shunned. So it’s playing on various motivational “poles” that are forced to coexist in an uneasy equilibrium. I think maybe the original would make this aspect clearer -- the web image is a drastic reduction.With this and other works, I seem to be in the process of creating a collection of Photoshop filters that don’t really do anything that anybody would ever use. If art can be said at times to be about taking something useful and rendering it useless by pointing it to it as art (the Duchamp methodology), then my designing a Photoshop-type filter (they aren’t yet filters, but could be) that nobody would ever find a reason to use and saying that it’s art seems to be an updated extension of that idea, yes? Ah, well, it amuses me at least. I can’t expect everybody to share my sensibility.And thanks jmcs3. It’s always welcome to hear from you!mOn Aug 7, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Johan Meskens CS3 jmcs3 wrote: 'neither is your commentit is not about the 'one' piece, it is about the flow of experimentsjmcs3Joel Weishaus wrote: As someone who likes your work, I don't find this piece interesting.-Joel- Original Message -From: "mwp" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.caSent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 9:29 PMSubject: ANY WAY YOU SLICE ITANY WAY YOU SLICE ITAFTER Jackson Pollock’s Blue Poles2005JP’s Blue Poles, subjected to 3 modifications. First, it is sliced anddisplaced in the vertical direction over 16 steps, then 16 steps in thehorizontal direction, then both. The image link shows the 3 processesstacked one on top of the other, along with the original Blue Poles atthe very top.http://www.kunst.no/bjornmag/mpphp2004/JPBP16Slx2005.jpgmwp
Re: ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT
That's okay, JW. Everybody is certainly welcome to critique the work any way you like. For me, the piece is somewhat about taking a known entity and plunging it ever more deeply into chaos through a rigorous, logical process that a guy like Pollock would have shunned. So it’s playing on various motivational “poles” that are forced to coexist in an uneasy equilibrium. I think maybe the original would make this aspect clearer -- the web image is a drastic reduction. With this and other works, I seem to be in the process of creating a collection of Photoshop filters that don’t really do anything that anybody would ever use. If art can be said at times to be about taking something useful and rendering it useless by pointing it to it as art (the Duchamp methodology), then my designing a Photoshop-type filter (they aren’t yet filters, but could be) that nobody would ever find a reason to use and saying that it’s art seems to be an updated extension of that idea, yes? Ah, well, it amuses me at least. I can’t expect everybody to share my sensibility. And thanks jmcs3. It’s always welcome to hear from you! m On Aug 7, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Johan Meskens CS3 jmcs3 wrote: ' neither is your comment it is not about the 'one' piece , it is about the flow of experiments jmcs3 Joel Weishaus wrote: As someone who likes your work, I don't find this piece interesting. -Joel - Original Message - From: mwp [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT AFTER Jackson Pollock’s Blue Poles 2005 JP’s Blue Poles, subjected to 3 modifications. First, it is sliced and displaced in the vertical direction over 16 steps, then 16 steps in the horizontal direction, then both. The image link shows the 3 processes stacked one on top of the other, along with the original Blue Poles at the very top. http://www.kunst.no/bjornmag/mpphp2004/JPBP16Slx2005.jpg mwp
Re: ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT
At an exhibtion in the Milwaukee Art Museum this summer of Post War Japanese Prints, there is one very large sized one by Ai-O in which the artist has taekn a famous print by Hokusai and cut into 24 pieces which can arranged and rearranged over and over into differing new prints. Instead of imitating closely the original, (or cutting up a huge blow up of a repro of it) Ai-O transformed the piece via a Pop Art sensibility, which plays also on the Japanese prints having become part of popular cuture for over century since the Impressionists began using them as models, and their ubiquitous presence the world over as postcards. (One could think of it also in relation to jig-saw pieces, puzzles.) Rather than being a heavy commentary on the original, the piece has a very playful and light feeling to it. It can be read as acknowledging all sorts of art historical/critical issues etc and at same time being just a pop culture puzzle box of a famous image, to be taken lightly in a spirit of Fluxus play. Seeing the Pollock pieces brought the Ai-O to mind, though his is very very different in the sensibility. From: Joel Weishaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: "WRYTING-L : Writing and Theory across Disciplines" WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CATo: WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CASubject: Re: ANY WAY YOU SLICE ITDate: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 08:21:44 -0700As someone who likes your work, I don't find this piece interesting.-Joel- Original Message -From: "mwp" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.caSent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 9:29 PMSubject: ANY WAY YOU SLICE ITANY WAY YOU SLICE ITAFTER Jackson Pollocks Blue Poles2005JPs Blue Poles, subjected to 3 modifications. First, it is sliced anddisplaced in the vertical direction over 16 steps, then 16 steps in thehorizontal direction, then both. The image link shows the 3 processesstacked one on top of the other, along with the original Blue Poles atthe very top.http://www.kunst.no/bjornmag/mpphp2004/JPBP16Slx2005.jpgmwp Ready for kickoff? Sign up for Fox Fantasy Football powered by MSN. FREE to play!
Re: ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT
Wow, thanks for this! Mark On Aug 7, 2005, at 9:04 AM, David-Baptiste Chirot wrote: At an exhibtion in the Milwaukee Art Museum this summer of Post War Japanese Prints, there is one very large sized one by Ai-O in which the artist has taekn a famous print by Hokusai and cut into 24 pieces which can arranged and rearranged over and over into differing new prints. Instead of imitating closely the original, (or cutting up a huge blow up of a repro of it) Ai-O transformed the piece via a Pop Art sensibility, which plays also on the Japanese prints having become part of popular cuture for over century since the Impressionists began using them as models, and their ubiquitous presence the world over as postcards. (One could think of it also in relation to jig-saw pieces, puzzles.) Rather than being a heavy commentary on the original, the piece has a very playful and light feeling to it. It can be read as acknowledging all sorts of art historical/critical issues etc and at same time being just a pop culture puzzle box of a famous image, to be taken lightly in a spirit of Fluxus play. Seeing the Pollock pieces brought the Ai-O to mind, though his is very very different in the sensibility. From: Joel Weishaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WRYTING-L : Writing and Theory across Disciplines WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA To: WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA Subject: Re: ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 08:21:44 -0700 As someone who likes your work, I don't find this piece interesting. -Joel - Original Message - From: mwp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WRYTING-L@listserv.utoronto.ca Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT AFTER Jackson Pollock’s Blue Poles 2005 JP’s Blue Poles, subjected to 3 modifications. First, it is sliced and displaced in the vertical direction over 16 steps, then 16 steps in the horizontal direction, then both. The image link shows the 3 processes stacked one on top of the other, along with the original Blue Poles at the very top. http://www.kunst.no/bjornmag/mpphp2004/JPBP16Slx2005.jpg mwp Ready for kickoff? Sign up for Fox Fantasy Football powered by MSN. FREE to play!
ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT
ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT AFTER Jackson Pollock’s Blue Poles 2005 JP’s Blue Poles, subjected to 3 modifications. First, it is sliced and displaced in the vertical direction over 16 steps, then 16 steps in the horizontal direction, then both. The image link shows the 3 processes stacked one on top of the other, along with the original Blue Poles at the very top. http://www.kunst.no/bjornmag/mpphp2004/JPBP16Slx2005.jpg mwp
