_Leonardo Electronic Almanac Discussion (LEAD)_
Apologies for cross-posting. The following is the unedited transcript from
today's chat session with digital poet and multimedia artist Stephanie
Strickland, part of the online discussion around the New Media Poetics special
issue of the _Leonardo Online Almanac_ (http://leoalmanac.org/). The next chat
(using the jabber chat program): Manuela Portela 10/23 1 pm West Coast US / 4
pm East Coast USA / 10 pm Paris FR / 6 am Melbourne AU
Sandy
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cynthia1stephanie : Hello, this is Stephanie Cynthia here
sbaldwin : Hi there Jason as well!
tpeterson : greetings Stephanie
sbaldwin : i need to log off for about 10 minutes
jnelson : Howdy Steph and Cynthia and Time and Sandy
jnelson : Tim not Time although Time might work well for you Tim
tpeterson : Jason I was saying before that I'm too poor to travel for DAC,
but hope that goes well What is your involvement?
tpeterson : Stephanie I'd like to attend the Kelly House thing but not sure
if I can get tim(e) off from work
jnelson : wellsadly I was rejected todaymy abstract was not abstacty
enoughtoo poetic they say
tpeterson : what? As in too lyrical or what
tpeterson : Stephanie is leaving and disappearing Everything ok?
jnelson : not sure reallybut from the peer review comments it appeared
that the languae I used was too abstractand yeah too lyrical
cynthia1stephanie : But Jason, isn't the next one in Australia?
jnelson : Yesit is
cynthia1stephanie : What's their problem?
tpeterson : Stephanie is a flickering signifier of the author
cynthia1stephanie : Tim, I hope you can come to Philadelphia
jnelson : My experiences in Australia so far seem to signal that they
play it very safe hereso that means more references and less thought
jnelson : Stephwhen you do readings or artist talkshow do you approach
them?
tpeterson : Why is digital poetry so much like engineering? Like, the only
people who know about it are those who dod the technical aspects of it
cynthia1stephanie : Preferrably with Cynthia :)
tpeterson : a potentially contentious statement, I realize
cynthia1stephanie : Tim - it's not just engineering, it's making of any
kind And that applies to the coder who often tries to get the reader/recipient
to do their own reconfiguring
tpeterson : Whereas with New Media art there's a wider discourse Sandy, do
you think this is just assimilation
sbaldwin : i'm back reading the logs: jason, you should form a counter dac
called cad
tpeterson : GrandTextAutoCAD
cynthia1stephanie : Tim's posts are coming in 4 times
sbaldwin : the kelly house thing: is that the elo collection?
cynthia1stephanie : Sandy - yes
sbaldwin : assimilation, yes, codification
tpeterson : We've been having that problem too It appears to be a weird
subjective thing
cynthia1stephanie : But, there's a whole program involving Bernstein,
Silliman, and others
sbaldwin : c1s: some seem to come through several times not sure why may
have to do with the browser and/or whether you hit enter or send message
sbaldwin : but it may not
sbaldwin : sort of narcisystematic
jnelson : I agree timcertainly there are really stern lines drawn by the
various crowdsand the academics herewont explore beyond a very limited set of
theoristsso mention lachan and you are fine
sbaldwin : i was thinking this morning that we should have done this all
in second life or something like that
tpeterson : but isn't the codification thing a question of reading? If
reading is more important or just as important than writing
tpeterson : then it would seem to be important to develop a discourse for
reading new media poetry works
sbaldwin : - tim, i've been arguing that for year
tpeterson : but don't listen to me -- I'm what Bloom calls a weak poet
sbaldwin : that is, arguing that we should do so
jnelson : Hey Dan
dwaber :greetings and/or salutations to jason and all
sbaldwin : though it seems to me this argument has been going around for
quite a while: the need to create readings of new media works in their
specificity
sbaldwin : hi dan
cynthia1stephanie : Tim - hard to read through all the multiple posts, but
I think that neither coding/writing nor reading is privileged; the important
thing is what Bootz calls the semiotic gap and what I call the veto power of
several peers Each entity knows things the other doesn't That's what makes the
situation so interesting
tpeterson : Jason Nelson's work as anamorphosis
sbaldwin : - i'm going to ponder the multiplicity for a moment and see if
there's an answer
tpeterson : I agree, Stephanie That's one of the most interesting things
about your article to me, that it points at the social space outside the work
itself
tpeterson