RE: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old
Awww heck - I don't mind. Well for as long as Pete F stays on the list anyhow ;) 31 - 32 in June. So, stop your whinin' grin Brendan From: Miles Tillinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 19/01/04 4:12 PM To: Web Standards Group (E-mail) Subject: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old There is really no other way of finding this out other than posting to the list, so here goes some OT goodness: A couple of 'youngsters' posted today, one 17 (from Plone.org) and one 16, both must be pretty competent web designers from the links they've posted, especially Plone, i love what they do! Made me feel a bit long in the tooth at 27, so I started wondering how old you gurus are? Would be good to get an idea of where we sit demographically... p.s. if you don't want to post your age on the list, feel free to email me direct if you really want to be part of my little survey... Regards, Miles. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * winmail.dat
[WSG] Is it ok? Does it break?
HI All, First post I think, Could some people check this out and let me know if it breaks. It has been tested it in Opera, Moz and IE 6 And we think we have all the bugs out of it. Page and CSS validate. http://www.jewelled.com.au/users/shaun/item_view.php Thankyou. Paul. P.S Great list, and thanks to all the people who post the links to articles. I didnt know CSS until a few weeks ago. And the last site I did was about 4-5 years ago all in tables J Paul. Jeweller / Part time web dev guy.
RE: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old
I just turned 18 in November... :) - Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.neester.com - -Original Message- From: Miles Tillinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 4:13 PM To: Web Standards Group (E-mail) Subject: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old There is really no other way of finding this out other than posting to the list, so here goes some OT goodness: A couple of 'youngsters' posted today, one 17 (from Plone.org) and one 16, both must be pretty competent web designers from the links they've posted, especially Plone, i love what they do! Made me feel a bit long in the tooth at 27, so I started wondering how old you gurus are? Would be good to get an idea of where we sit demographically... p.s. if you don't want to post your age on the list, feel free to email me direct if you really want to be part of my little survey... Regards, Miles. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old
As Miles said, this is slightly off-topic, even though interesting! How about email Miles off-list with responses, and then Miles can do a recap for all of us on-list (or via his blog?) in a few days time Might be worth letting Miles know if you are happy for your age to be public! Russ There is really no other way of finding this out other than posting to the list, so here goes some OT goodness: A couple of 'youngsters' posted today, one 17 (from Plone.org) and one 16, both must be pretty competent web designers from the links they've posted, especially Plone, i love what they do! Made me feel a bit long in the tooth at 27, so I started wondering how old you gurus are? Would be good to get an idea of where we sit demographically... p.s. if you don't want to post your age on the list, feel free to email me direct if you really want to be part of my little survey... Regards, Miles. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old
Peter wrote: I'm definitely not the oldest here at 41! You know that because you know that I officially became old on my last birthday. And then they changed the rules a few months later and now I am middle-aged again! :-) -- Yours, Kym * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Is it ok? Does it break?
Hey Paul, Looks really good... The only problem I ran into (non-CSS related) is the Zoom function causes an error for me (Javascript: Object Expected, Line 101). Not sure if you're aware of this, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. I really like the navigation on the right-side of the page. Very clean, and the pseudo-shading ads a nice touch! Regards, Frank Manno www.developershed.com HI All, First post I think, Could some people check this out and let me know if it breaks. It has been tested it in Opera, Moz and IE 6 And we think we have all the bugs out of it. Page and CSS validate. http://www.jewelled.com.au/users/shaun/item_view.php Thankyou. Paul. P.S Great list, and thanks to all the people who post the links to articles. I didn't know CSS until a few weeks ago. And the last site I did was about 4-5 years ago all in tables :-) Paul. Jeweller / Part time web dev guy. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Is it ok? Does it break?
Paul, Looks fine in IE5.2, Moz 1.6, and Firebird 0.7 on the Mac. Is the header supposed to be flush with the top of the window? It is here in all 3 and just 'feels' weird. There's some nasty shifts when you use the text zoom in it, and things go haywire with both of the Moz variants. MD On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 02:05 AM, Paul wrote: HI All, First post I think, Could some people check this out and let me know if it breaks. It has been tested it in Opera, Moz and IE 6 And we think we have all the bugs out of it. Page and CSS validate. http://www.jewelled.com.au/users/shaun/item_view.php Thankyou. Paul. P.S Great list, and thanks to all the people who post the links to articles. I didnt know CSS until a few weeks ago. And the last site I did was about 4-5 years ago all in tablesJ Paul. Jeweller / Part time web dev guy.
Re: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old
A couple of 'youngsters' posted today, one 17 (from Plone.org) and one 16, both must be pretty competent web designers from the links they've posted, especially Plone, i love what they do! thanks :) Made me feel a bit long in the tooth at 27, so I started wondering how old you gurus are? Would be good to get an idea of where we sit demographically... honestly, css guru is not a word combination i like. basically css is very easy. so everyone can become a guru quite fast. no matter how old you are. regards, michael -- niij http://niij.org/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] A few links for the week...
CSS Hacks and Filters http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/index.html A pencil image made out of CSS http://www.designdetector.com/tips/csspencils.php Common XHTML Validation Errors http://www.blackwidows.org.uk/resources/tutorials/xhtml/common-errors.html Validation and error handling - from a browser developers perspective: The whole reason nearly all Web pages on the Internet are malformed is because browsers let Web page authors get away with it http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/archives/2004_01.html#004702 Thanks Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old
Frickin' 'eck mate, panic not - I just turned 38. However my girlfriend is younger, I'm still in a working originals band, I get told I look like I'm early 30s, and I just taught myself CSS. So there. ;) The-not-defensive-at-all, Peter There is really no other way of finding this out other than posting to the list, so here goes some OT goodness: A couple of 'youngsters' posted today, one 17 (from Plone.org) and one 16, both must be pretty competent web designers from the links they've posted, especially Plone, i love what they do! Made me feel a bit long in the tooth at 27, so I started wondering how old you gurus are? Would be good to get an idea of where we sit demographically... p.s. if you don't want to post your age on the list, feel free to email me direct if you really want to be part of my little survey... -- peter gifford universal head design that works visit 7/43 bridge road stanmore nsw 2048 australia call(+612) 9517 1466 fax (+612) 9565 4747 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] sitewww.universalhead.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old
Nope, I might be in the running - I'll be 54 in March. I'm still proving you can teach an old dog new tricks. But I dont know what will happen when I get old. Cheers Mike Kear AFP Webworks Up to new tricks at http://afpwebworks.com/beach/ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old Date: 19/01/04 14:06 I'm definitely not the oldest here at 41! PeterF _ From: Brendan Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old Awww heck - I don't mind. Well for as long as Pete F stays on the list anyhow ;) 31 - 32 in June. So, stop your whinin' grin Brendan _ From: Miles Tillinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 19/01/04 4:12 PM To: Web Standards Group (E-mail) Subject: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old There is really no other way of finding this out other than posting to the list, so here goes some OT goodness: A couple of 'youngsters' posted today, one 17 (from Plone.org) and one 16, both must be pretty competent web designers from the links they've posted, especially Plone, i love what they do! Made me feel a bit long in the tooth at 27, so I started wondering how old you gurus are? Would be good to get an idea of where we sit demographically... p.s. if you don't want to post your age on the list, feel free to email me direct if you really want to be part of my little survey... Regards, Miles. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] CSS Filter (Alpha Opacity) on MZ/NS [Virus checkedAU]
Ohh... no wonder it wasn't on W3Schools or W3.org. Thankyou - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS Filter (Alpha Opacity) on MZ/NS [Virus checkedAU] This email is to be read subject to the disclaimer below. Hi Andrew, The alpha filter is part of a whole horrible proprietary extension to CSS given to us by microsoft - and even the way they implemented it was not in keeping with CSS standards. CSS3 has (or will have) support for the opacity attribute which does the same thing - and is currently implemented in mozilla (in the correct way for prorietary extentions) i.e. -moz-opacity: 50%; When CSS3 becomes a standard you will then mozilla will change this attribute to opacity and you'll be able to search your code for -moz-opacity and all will be hunky dory. However, the IE method will effectively exlude the use of an filter attribute in the CSS standards as if it (or something like it) is ever implemented then it may not work the same way as IE has implemented it. Regards, Mark Lynch Development Manager - Business Innovation Online Ernst Young - Australia http://www.eyware.com/ http://www.eyonline.com/ Direct: +612 9248 4038 Fax: +612 9248 4073 Mobile: +61 421 050 695 Andrew Cheong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i.com cc: Subject: [WSG] CSS Filter (Alpha Opacity) on MZ/NS [Virus checkedAU] 19/01/2004 03:59 PM Please respond to wsg Why does the CSS filter for alpha opacity not work in Mozilla (1.4, 1.5, 1.6)? Look at http://www.xdemi.com/music/main.php?s=funp=links on I.E. - notice the background of the front window is transparent. In Mozilla and Netscape, it does not do this... I am an amateur designer - guess I never introduced myself here, but I'm glad to be here. I've only recently turned 16 years old, but I'm very interested in web design and even more in learning. I am very meticulous and support web standards all the way (although I have given up trying to conform with WAI standards haha) Anyway, I hope someone will be able to inform me of what stupid mistake I am making that does not allow this filter to work. NOTICE - This communication contains information which is confidential and the copyright of Ernst Young or a third party. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies and telephone Ernst Young on 1800 655 717 immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of Ernst Young. Any views expressed in this Communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Ernst Young. Except as required at law, Ernst Young does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. Liability limited by the Accountants Scheme, approved under the Professional Standards Act 1994 (NSW) * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] A few links for the week...
Actually, your first link about CSS Filters... might help me on the problem that I addressed before about CSS Filters not being supported by Mozilla or Netscape... thank you in advance! - Original Message - From: russ weakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Web Standards Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:01 PM Subject: [WSG] A few links for the week... CSS Hacks and Filters http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/index.html A pencil image made out of CSS http://www.designdetector.com/tips/csspencils.php Common XHTML Validation Errors http://www.blackwidows.org.uk/resources/tutorials/xhtml/common-errors.html Validation and error handling - from a browser developers perspective: The whole reason nearly all Web pages on the Internet are malformed is because browsers let Web page authors get away with it http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/archives/2004_01.html#004702 Thanks Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] a horizontal ol drops the numbers..?
gurus, can anyone tell me why this code... - style type=text/cssli {display: inline}/style ollisome text/lilia little more text/lilianother bit/lilieven a bit more/li/ol - ...drops the numbers from the start of each list item as soon as you make the list run horizontally? I want to keep the numbers at the start of each item(its for a horizontal 'step by step' type indicator) so if anyone has any insights on how to achieve that, that would be tops, cheers, pete
[WSG] More browser share stats..
http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox26.html I always doubt the accuracy of these stats, since various browsers default their user_agent to IE6. Anyway, no surprises, IE still holds the crown... ChrisB * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *