RE: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old

2004-01-19 Thread Brendan Smith
Awww heck - I don't mind. Well for as long as Pete F stays on the list anyhow ;)
 
31 - 32 in June.
 
So, stop your whinin'  grin
 
Brendan



From: Miles Tillinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 19/01/04 4:12 PM
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There is really no other way of finding this out other than posting to the list, so 
here goes some OT goodness:

A couple of 'youngsters' posted today, one 17 (from Plone.org) and one 16, both must 
be pretty competent web designers from the links they've posted, especially Plone, i 
love what they do!   Made me feel a bit long in the tooth at 27, so I started 
wondering how old you gurus are?  Would be good to get an idea of where we sit 
demographically...

p.s. if you don't want to post your age on the list, feel free to email me direct if 
you really want to be part of my little survey...

Regards,

Miles.

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[WSG] Is it ok? Does it break?

2004-01-19 Thread Paul








HI All,



First post I think, 



Could some people check this out and let me know if
it breaks. 

It has been tested it in Opera, Moz
and IE 6 

And we think we have all the bugs out of it. 



Page and CSS validate. 



http://www.jewelled.com.au/users/shaun/item_view.php





Thankyou.



Paul.





P.S 

Great list, and thanks to all the people who post the
links to articles. 

I didnt know CSS until a few weeks ago. And
the last site I did was about 4-5 years ago all in tables J



Paul.

Jeweller / Part time web dev guy. 














RE: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old

2004-01-19 Thread Chris Stratford

I just turned 18 in November...
:)

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From: Miles Tillinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old


There is really no other way of finding this out other than posting to
the list, so here goes some OT goodness:

A couple of 'youngsters' posted today, one 17 (from Plone.org) and one
16, both must be pretty competent web designers from the links they've
posted, especially Plone, i love what they do!   Made me feel a bit long
in the tooth at 27, so I started wondering how old you gurus are?  Would
be good to get an idea of where we sit demographically...

p.s. if you don't want to post your age on the list, feel free to email
me direct if you really want to be part of my little survey...

Regards,

Miles.

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Re: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old

2004-01-19 Thread russ weakley
As Miles said, this is slightly off-topic, even though interesting!

How about email Miles off-list with responses, and then Miles can do a recap
for all of us on-list (or via his blog?) in a few days time

Might be worth letting Miles know if you are happy for your age to be
public!

Russ



 
 There is really no other way of finding this out other than posting to the
 list, so here goes some OT goodness:
 
 A couple of 'youngsters' posted today, one 17 (from Plone.org) and one 16,
 both must be pretty competent web designers from the links they've posted,
 especially Plone, i love what they do!   Made me feel a bit long in the tooth
 at 27, so I started wondering how old you gurus are?  Would be good to get an
 idea of where we sit demographically...
 
 p.s. if you don't want to post your age on the list, feel free to email me
 direct if you really want to be part of my little survey...
 
 Regards,
 
 Miles.

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RE: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old

2004-01-19 Thread Kym Kovan

Peter wrote:

I'm definitely not the oldest here at 41!

You know that because you know that I officially became old on my last birthday.  
And then they changed the rules a few months later and now I am middle-aged again! :-)


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Re: [WSG] Is it ok? Does it break?

2004-01-19 Thread shakes

Hey Paul,

Looks really good... The only problem I ran into (non-CSS related) is the
Zoom function causes an error for me (Javascript: Object Expected, Line
101).  Not sure if you're aware of this, but I thought I'd bring it up
just in case.

I really like the navigation on the right-side of the page.  Very clean,
and the pseudo-shading ads a nice touch!


Regards,

Frank Manno
www.developershed.com

 HI All,

 First post I think,

 Could some people check this out and let me know if it breaks.
 It has been tested it in Opera, Moz and IE 6
 And we think we have all the bugs out of it.

 Page and CSS validate.

 http://www.jewelled.com.au/users/shaun/item_view.php


 Thankyou.

 Paul.


 P.S
 Great list, and thanks to all the people who post the links to articles.
 I didn't know CSS until a few weeks ago. And the last site I did was about
 4-5 years ago all in tables :-)

 Paul.
 Jeweller / Part time web dev guy.
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Re: [WSG] Is it ok? Does it break?

2004-01-19 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
Paul,

Looks fine in IE5.2, Moz 1.6, and Firebird 0.7 on the Mac.

Is the header supposed to be flush with the top of the window?  It is here in all 3 and just 'feels' weird.

There's some nasty shifts when you use the text zoom in it, and things go haywire with both of the Moz variants.

MD


On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 02:05 AM, Paul wrote:

HI All,



First post I think, 



Could some people check this out and let me know if it breaks. 

It has been tested it in Opera, Moz and IE 6 

And we think we have all the bugs out of it. 



Page and CSS validate. 



http://www.jewelled.com.au/users/shaun/item_view.php





Thankyou.



Paul.





P.S 

Great list, and thanks to all the people who post the links to articles. 

I didnt know CSS until a few weeks ago. And the last site I did was about 4-5 years ago all in tablesJ



Paul.

Jeweller / Part time web dev guy. 









Re: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old

2004-01-19 Thread Michael Zeltner
 A couple of 'youngsters' posted today, one 17 (from Plone.org) and one
 16, both must be pretty competent web designers from the links 
they've  posted, especially Plone, i love what they do!

thanks :)

 Made me feel a bit long in the tooth at 27, so I started wondering how
 old you gurus are? Would be good to get an idea of where we sit
 demographically...
honestly, css guru is not a word combination i like. basically css is 
very easy. so everyone can become a guru quite fast. no matter how old 
you are.

regards, michael
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[WSG] A few links for the week...

2004-01-19 Thread russ weakley
CSS Hacks and Filters
http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/index.html

A pencil image made out of CSS
http://www.designdetector.com/tips/csspencils.php

Common XHTML Validation Errors
http://www.blackwidows.org.uk/resources/tutorials/xhtml/common-errors.html

Validation and error handling - from a browser developers perspective:
The whole reason nearly all Web pages on the Internet are malformed is
because browsers let Web page authors get away with it
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/archives/2004_01.html#004702

Thanks
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Re: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old

2004-01-19 Thread Universal Head
Frickin' 'eck mate, panic not - I just turned 38.

However my girlfriend is younger, I'm still in a working originals 
band, I get told I look like I'm early 30s, and I just taught myself 
CSS. So there. ;)

The-not-defensive-at-all,
Peter

There is really no other way of finding this out other than posting 
to the list, so here goes some OT goodness:

A couple of 'youngsters' posted today, one 17 (from Plone.org) and 
one 16, both must be pretty competent web designers from the links 
they've posted, especially Plone, i love what they do!   Made me 
feel a bit long in the tooth at 27, so I started wondering how old 
you gurus are?  Would be good to get an idea of where we sit 
demographically...

p.s. if you don't want to post your age on the list, feel free to 
email me direct if you really want to be part of my little survey...
--

peter gifford

universal head
design that works
visit   7/43 bridge road
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RE: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old

2004-01-19 Thread Mkear

Nope, I might be in the running - I'll be 54 in March.   I'm still proving
you can teach an old dog new tricks.  But I dont know what will happen when
I get old.

Cheers
Mike Kear
AFP Webworks
Up to new tricks at
http://afpwebworks.com/beach/


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Subject: RE: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old
Date: 19/01/04 14:06

I'm definitely not the oldest here at 41!

PeterF


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From: Brendan Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old


Awww heck - I don't mind. Well for as long as Pete F stays on the list
anyhow ;)

31 - 32 in June.

So, stop your whinin' grin

Brendan

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From: Miles Tillinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 19/01/04 4:12 PM
To: Web Standards Group (E-mail)
Subject: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old




There is really no other way of finding this out other than posting to the
list, so here goes some OT goodness:

A couple of 'youngsters' posted today, one 17 (from Plone.org) and one 16,
both must be pretty competent web designers from the links they've posted,
especially Plone, i love what they do! Made me feel a bit long in the
tooth at 27, so I started wondering how old you gurus are? Would be good to
get an idea of where we sit demographically...

p.s. if you don't want to post your age on the list, feel free to email me
direct if you really want to be part of my little survey...

Regards,

Miles.

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Re: [WSG] CSS Filter (Alpha Opacity) on MZ/NS [Virus checkedAU]

2004-01-19 Thread Andrew Cheong

Ohh... no wonder it wasn't on W3Schools or W3.org.  Thankyou

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 This email is to be read subject to the disclaimer below.

 Hi Andrew,

 The alpha filter is part of a whole horrible proprietary extension to CSS
 given to us by microsoft - and even the way they implemented it was not in
 keeping with CSS standards.

 CSS3 has (or will have) support for the opacity attribute which does the
 same thing - and is currently implemented in mozilla (in the correct way
 for prorietary extentions) i.e. -moz-opacity: 50%;

 When CSS3 becomes a standard you will then mozilla will change this
 attribute to opacity and you'll be able to search your code for
 -moz-opacity and all will be hunky dory.  However, the IE method will
 effectively exlude the use of an filter attribute in the CSS standards as
 if it (or something like it) is ever implemented then it may not work the
 same way as IE has implemented it.


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 Why does the CSS filter for alpha opacity not work in Mozilla (1.4, 1.5,
 1.6)?  Look at http://www.xdemi.com/music/main.php?s=funp=links on I.E. -
 notice the background of the front window is transparent.  In Mozilla
and
 Netscape, it does not do this...

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 glad to be here.  I've only recently turned 16 years old, but I'm very
 interested in web design and even more in learning.  I am very meticulous
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 conform with WAI standards haha)

 Anyway, I hope someone will be able to inform me of what stupid mistake I
 am making that does not allow this filter to work.



 
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Re: [WSG] A few links for the week...

2004-01-19 Thread Andrew Cheong

Actually, your first link about CSS Filters... might help me on the problem
that I addressed before about CSS Filters not being supported by Mozilla or
Netscape... thank you in advance!

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Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:01 PM
Subject: [WSG] A few links for the week...


 CSS Hacks and Filters
 http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/index.html

 A pencil image made out of CSS
 http://www.designdetector.com/tips/csspencils.php

 Common XHTML Validation Errors
 http://www.blackwidows.org.uk/resources/tutorials/xhtml/common-errors.html

 Validation and error handling - from a browser developers perspective:
 The whole reason nearly all Web pages on the Internet are malformed is
 because browsers let Web page authors get away with it
 http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/archives/2004_01.html#004702

 Thanks
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[WSG] a horizontal ol drops the numbers..?

2004-01-19 Thread Peter Ottery



gurus,
can anyone tell me 
why this code...
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style 
type=text/cssli {display: inline}/style

ollisome 
text/lilia little more text/lilianother 
bit/lilieven a bit 
more/li/ol

-

...drops the numbers 
from the start of each list item as soon as you make the list run 
horizontally?
I want to keep the 
numbers at the start of each item(its for a horizontal 'step by step' type 
indicator) so if anyone has any insights on how to achieve that, that would be 
tops,

cheers,
pete


[WSG] More browser share stats..

2004-01-19 Thread Chris Blown

http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox26.html

I always doubt the accuracy of these stats, since various browsers
default their user_agent to IE6.  

Anyway, no surprises, IE still holds the crown...

ChrisB

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