[WSG] More standards/CSS links...

2004-01-21 Thread russ weakley
CSS too tips:
http://www.madaboutstyle.com/tooltip2.html

Simple quiz - image floats:
http://www.simplebits.com/archives/2004/01/02/simplequiz_part_xi_image_float
ing.html

A Standard for Site Organization (via brainstormsandraves.com)
http://www.theobvious.com/archive/1998/11/02.html

StrongBad - small flash movie on how to build a website (using standards?)
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail51.html
StrongBad's example website:
http://www.homestarrunner.com/cheatintro.swf

:)
Russ

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RE: [WSG] More standards/CSS links...

2004-01-21 Thread Taco Fleur

Great Links Russ, I always love a bit of strongbad!

 A Standard for Site Organization (via brainstormsandraves.com)
http://www.theobvious.com/archive/1998/11/02.html
I have a few ideas/remarks about the above link myself, see
http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/archive/2004/01/?220719
Any comments welcome

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 -Original Message-
 From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2004 11:30 PM
 To: Web Standards Group
 Subject: [WSG] More standards/CSS links...
 
 
 CSS too tips:
 http://www.madaboutstyle.com/tooltip2.html
 
 Simple quiz - image floats: 
 http://www.simplebits.com/archives/2004/01/02/simplequiz_part_
xi_image_float
ing.html

A Standard for Site Organization (via brainstormsandraves.com)
http://www.theobvious.com/archive/1998/11/02.html

StrongBad - small flash movie on how to build a website (using standards?)
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail51.html
StrongBad's example website: http://www.homestarrunner.com/cheatintro.swf

:)
Russ

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Re: [WSG] last quirk on this site - help!

2004-01-21 Thread Universal Head
Argh! Urk! Of course.
Thankyou Hugh. And I'm still not buying an iSight.
P


Pete,

I think I've found the problem with your layout. Very easy to fix.

Try setting your #rightcolumn to float left instead of right:

#rightcolumn {
float: left;
border: none;
width: 220px;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}
-Hugh

Would anyone be able to identify this exciting new MacIE5-only behaviour?

http://universalhead.com/clients/jands/lighting.html

CSS at

http://universalhead.com/clients/jands/css/jands.css

It works in every other Mac and Win modern browser, but MacIE5 
explodes the width of the maincontent div to make a ridiculously 
wide layout.

I'd really appreciate someone cracking this last nut so I can 
declare the CSS for this site DONE!
--

peter gifford

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Re: [WSG] CD Navigation

2004-01-21 Thread Hugh Todd
Gavin,

So the navigation that ColdFusion creates is above, and I would 
welcome any feedback you can give me. Any suggestions on how to tidy 
up the CSS or HTML?
Several display issues (without looking at the code).

1) None of the current Mac browsers, AFAIK, currently display PDFs in 
the browser window (by default, that is, without a third party 
plug-in). So your frame setup won't work unless the question pages are 
in HTML. (All of the PDF links will open in the Adobe or Apple PDF 
readers.)

2) In non-IE browsers the left hand column appears in a completely 
expanded form. One very long column of links. This could be explained 
by the fact that the Javascript code used to expand the links is 
written explicitly for IE only. This makes me cross.

3) The header does not behave itself in IE5 Mac or Mozilla Mac. Looks 
OK in the beautifully well-behaved Safari.

4) In IE 5 and Mozilla the Sample 1 icon in each question seems to 
repeat itself, with an overlap. Even more bizarrely, the left hand, 
underneath version of the icon actually drifts a few pixels off the 
left hand border of the Mozilla browser. In Safari, no doubling up of 
the Sample 1 icon, but *all of the icons drift left off the left 
hand border of the browser.

Looks as though you may want to go to browsercam right away.

-Hugh Todd :)

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Re: [WSG] setting up a PX with old browsers

2004-01-21 Thread James Ellis
You should be able to run the following browsers on the same partition 
in Windows:

Mozilla
Mozilla Firebird
Netscape 4,6,7
IE 3,4,5,5.5,6
Opera 5,6,7
iTunes
For more on running multiple IE's there is a post on this list late last 
year from Mark Stanton I believe.

hth
James
Universal Head wrote:

Does anyone have and advice or tips on setting up a PC with as many 
browsers as possible to do site testing? At the moment I have a PC 
with 2 partitions - WIN98 and WIN2000, with IE5.5 on the 98 parttion, 
and IE6 and Netscape7 on the 2000 partition. I'm keen to get some 
other browsers on there for testing but perhaps someone else has gone 
down this road before and has an optimal setup for a testing machine.

The PC does absolutely nothing else - just test sites! hee hee
Peter
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Re: [WSG] CD Navigation

2004-01-21 Thread Gavin Cooney

Hugh,

Thanks for your reply. I didn't want to make you cross! I just lifted that
javascript from somewhere, and i'll get working on a non-IE version.

I realise that users will have to download acrobat. The pages cannot be in
HTML because they are student hand-writing samples. They also need to be
fully-printable. I suppose i could use Jpegs on a HTML page, but PDF seems
the best bet.

I've got browser cam working as we speak.

Thanks again,

Gavin


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Subject: Re: [WSG] CD Navigation



 Gavin,

  So the navigation that ColdFusion creates is above, and I would
  welcome any feedback you can give me. Any suggestions on how to tidy
  up the CSS or HTML?

 Several display issues (without looking at the code).

 1) None of the current Mac browsers, AFAIK, currently display PDFs in
 the browser window (by default, that is, without a third party
 plug-in). So your frame setup won't work unless the question pages are
 in HTML. (All of the PDF links will open in the Adobe or Apple PDF
 readers.)

 2) In non-IE browsers the left hand column appears in a completely
 expanded form. One very long column of links. This could be explained
 by the fact that the Javascript code used to expand the links is
 written explicitly for IE only. This makes me cross.

 3) The header does not behave itself in IE5 Mac or Mozilla Mac. Looks
 OK in the beautifully well-behaved Safari.

 4) In IE 5 and Mozilla the Sample 1 icon in each question seems to
 repeat itself, with an overlap. Even more bizarrely, the left hand,
 underneath version of the icon actually drifts a few pixels off the
 left hand border of the Mozilla browser. In Safari, no doubling up of
 the Sample 1 icon, but *all of the icons drift left off the left
 hand border of the browser.

 Looks as though you may want to go to browsercam right away.

 -Hugh Todd :)

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Re: [WSG] setting up a PX with old browsers

2004-01-21 Thread Nick Lo
Hi Peter,

You might like to read this for one:

Multiple IE's in Windows
http://www.insert-title.com/web_design/?page=articles/dev/multi_IE
...and while the topic is raised. I'd be interested how others are 
doing their cross browser testing, browser cam, Mac with Virtual PC, 
multiple boxes, etc.

Nick

Does anyone have and advice or tips on setting up a PC with as many 
browsers as possible to do site testing? At the moment I have a PC 
with 2 partitions - WIN98 and WIN2000, with IE5.5 on the 98 parttion, 
and IE6 and Netscape7 on the 2000 partition. I'm keen to get some 
other browsers on there for testing but perhaps someone else has gone 
down this road before and has an optimal setup for a testing machine.

The PC does absolutely nothing else - just test sites! hee hee
Peter
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