Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.0 Transitional and autocomplete
Hi All I just noticed that our discussion on "XHTML 1.0 Transitional and autocomplete" went off list. I've posted this in hopes that others may benefit from the info. Cheers Chris Blown On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 13:00, Peter Asquith wrote: > Chris > > Thanks for the tip on the meta statements - I've found a Microsoft entry > at > http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/ie/5/all/reskit/en-us/part1/ch01over.mspx > that explains the meta tags required to disable autocomplete. Excellent. > > Cheers > Peter > > Chris Blown wrote: > > >Peter > > > >You may be able to access this via the DOM using javascript and set this > >attribute to "off" for all INPUT elements. ( excluding submit and button > >etc ), though users could just turn off javascript. > > > >I also recall something about including no cache meta statements > >effecting how IE uses auto complete too. Might be worth testing out. > >Regards > >Chris Blown > > > >On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 11:44, Peter Asquith wrote: > > > >>Hi Chris > >> > >>Thanks for your prompt reply. > >> > >>We offer an on-line service so we don't have access to the candidates' > >>machines. I notice Ian Hickson at Opera Software is working on a > >>proposal for an XHTML module that addresses this issue > >>(http://www.hixie.ch/specs/html/forms/xforms-basic-1) but I can't find > >>any other mentions. > >> > >>Cheers > >>Peter > >> > >>Chris Blown wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Peter > >>> > >>>If you have control of the machines, then you should turn off the auto > >>>complete function from Tools->Options->Content. AFAIK autocomplete is > >>>not a standard attribute even in 4.01. > >>> > >>>If you are using XP Pro you can setup security in the Group Policy > >>>editor. This allows you to restrict access to these IE settings for > >>>certain user groups so they can't go and turn it back on. > >>> > >>>Regards > >>>Chris Blown > >>> > >>>On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 11:08, Peter Asquith wrote: > >>> > >>> > Hi all > > I'm in the process of validating the markup in a suite of on-line > assessment tools, which includes an ability measure. As you can imagine, > in situations where those being assessed share the same computer, it's > not acceptable for IE users with AutoComplete enabled to have the > previous candidate's answers defaulted! > > The autocomplete attribute is not part of the XHTML 1.0 Transitional DTD > and therefore any tags containing autocomplete="off" will not > validate. > > The best I can think of is to sniff for IE (much as I'm loathe to revert > to last century's techniques) and insert the attribute on a case by case > basis. Does anybody know if there are workarounds for this or is this > just one of those things? > > Cheers > Peter * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.0 Transitional and autocomplete
Peter If you have control of the machines, then you should turn off the auto complete function from Tools->Options->Content. AFAIK autocomplete is not a standard attribute even in 4.01. If you are using XP Pro you can setup security in the Group Policy editor. This allows you to restrict access to these IE settings for certain user groups so they can't go and turn it back on. Regards Chris Blown On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 11:08, Peter Asquith wrote: > Hi all > > I'm in the process of validating the markup in a suite of on-line > assessment tools, which includes an ability measure. As you can imagine, > in situations where those being assessed share the same computer, it's > not acceptable for IE users with AutoComplete enabled to have the > previous candidate's answers defaulted! > > The autocomplete attribute is not part of the XHTML 1.0 Transitional DTD > and therefore any tags containing autocomplete="off" will not > validate. > > The best I can think of is to sniff for IE (much as I'm loathe to revert > to last century's techniques) and insert the attribute on a case by case > basis. Does anybody know if there are workarounds for this or is this > just one of those things? > > Cheers > Peter > > --- > Peter Asquith > http://www.wasabicube.com > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > * > > > * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
[WSG] XHTML 1.0 Transitional and autocomplete
Hi all I'm in the process of validating the markup in a suite of on-line assessment tools, which includes an ability measure. As you can imagine, in situations where those being assessed share the same computer, it's not acceptable for IE users with AutoComplete enabled to have the previous candidate's answers defaulted! The autocomplete attribute is not part of the XHTML 1.0 Transitional DTD and therefore any tags containing autocomplete="off" will not validate. The best I can think of is to sniff for IE (much as I'm loathe to revert to last century's techniques) and insert the attribute on a case by case basis. Does anybody know if there are workarounds for this or is this just one of those things? Cheers Peter --- Peter Asquith http://www.wasabicube.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] FYI
Also - http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/26/1090693888524.html Firefox has been getting some good press recently. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
[WSG] CSS Drop down menu - Bugfix IE
Hello fellow members of the Web Standards Group! I use a css drop down menu that works fantastic for most browsers, except for Internet Explorer (off course). The menu is tested in Opera, Firefox and Netscape and in these browsers the menu seems to work as expected. IE, however, give me an unwanted gap when accessing sublevels. How do I solve that problem? Hope some of you wizards out there can help me out :-) The page is located here: http://www.regnskapsbyraet.no/sider/designmal.php and the stylesheet is here: http://www.regnskapsbyraet.no/sider/global.css The menu is based on the menu found at http://www.naarvoren.nl/artikel/hover_cssmenu.html but is moderated some... Code for the menu is found under the comment /* DROP DOWN MENY */ in the CSS. (The page is validated XHTML 1.0 Transitional and CSS2) Best regards, Bent Inge Høiås Address: Teknologiveien 22 N-2815 Gjøvik Norway [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.siteman.no * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
[WSG] FYI
http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/07/12/HNielosesshare_1.html * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] Web Accessability, SEO, Bookmarking - mod_rewrite
> If you are using from day one > you only need to change the path within one tag. But you still need to do it for every page in your site that uses it... So we are comparing the merit of making find/replaces site wide for all links vs. find/replace site wide for a specific tag. Or am I missing something? Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Web Accessability, SEO, Bookmarking - mod_rewrite
Mordechai: affects what the leading slash actually points to. You could have a little app in http://localhost/myApp and code all your pages up to use , but when you move the app into another directory (eg. http://localhost/yourApp) you then need to do a find & replace on every URL in every document site wide to change this path. If you are using from day one you only need to change the path within one tag. James: Yes - I know you can do this and we usually do, http://projectName.gruden.com for staging and http://project.gruden.int for internal and http://projectName.machineName.gruden.int for actual developers desktops. I guess the key thing in both of these cases is that gives you a flexibility that you would otherwise not have. Its not the answer to every problem and its not something you MUST DO EVERYTIME - its just there for our convinience. And sometimes its pretty handy. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Web Accessability, SEO, Bookmarking - mod_rewrite
Mark you are better off developing to a subdomain on localhost then you can use relative links :D e.g In Apache set up a vhost called test.localhost (followed by the relevant VirtualHost information) then add test.localhost to your hosts file, pointing it at 127.0.0.1 Cheers James Mark Stanton wrote: I think that "only for stolen sites" comment is a little off. For example I'll often develop something on my local machine on a URL like http://localhost/project-name and then deploy it on its own URL. is invaluable in this sort of situation. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Web Accessability, SEO, Bookmarking - mod_rewrite
Kay Smoljak wrote: www.example.com/foo/bar/ rather than www.example.com?foo=bar. In this situation, the relative links no longer make sense But using a leading slash eliminated the need for the . Also, mod_rewrite works fine with relative addressing. When Apache doesn't find the .htaccess file in a directory it'll check the parent directory. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Web Accessability, SEO, Bookmarking - mod_rewrite
Kay Smoljak wrote: www.example.com/foo/bar/ rather than www.example.com?foo=bar. In this situation, the relative links no longer make sense But using a leading slash eliminates the need for the . Also, mod_rewrite works fine with relative addressing. When Apache doesn't find the .htaccess file in a directory it'll check the parent directory. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
