Re: [WSG] Ten questions for John Allsopp

[Andrew Krespanis]

John's interview proved what Doug Bowman stated in an earlier blog
post - "You can't speak to an Australian without them bringing up a
Simpsons quote"
Now that I know where the name came from, my stomach will turn every
time I visit your site :)

Andrew.

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Re: [WSG] Ten questions for John Allsopp

[Lea de Groot]

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:34:51 +1100, John Allsopp wrote:
> We had fantales, minties and water for all the speakers :-)

*shock* *gasp* - you gave them the good stuff
;)

Lea
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Re: [WSG] The coolest developer tool since Chris's firefox developer toolbar

[Todd Baker]

Thats awesome... Thanks for that :)


On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:33:31 -0800, Ted Drake
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I might even say cooler but some would find that almost sacriligeous.
> 
> Slayeroffice has some great favelets but check out the favelet suites.
> http://slayeroffice.com/?c=/content/tools/suite.html
> 
> I really like the mouseover DOM inspector, style sheet editor, and the color 
> analysis tools.
> It's free and the guy deserves a big pat on the back.
> 
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Re: [WSG] problems in Firefox and Opera

[Erietta Sapounakis]

Thanks for the responses Paul and Patrick. Paul, I have uploaded it on 
the following URI:
html:
http://www.cyberworx.biz/recollections/product-detail/product-detail.html
css:
http://www.cyberworx.biz/recollections/recollectionstyles.css

Extreme thanks for your offer to have a look see.
erietta
Paul Connolley wrote:
Erietta Sapounakis wrote:
Hey there everyone

Hi Erietta
[snip]
#detail-tile ul  {margin-top:1em;}
#detail-tile li   {list-style-type:circle; display:block; 
list-style-position:inside;}
[snip]
...[snip rest]

Ultimately the problem lies within in your li statement:
display:block.
For a browser to render a list, the elements must be considered to be 
a "list-item" (thus, display : list-item). MSIE is erroneously 
displaying the circle bullets. I understand what you are trying to do 
but I recommend taking another route towards implementing it. Do you 
have a URI which I can look at in order to see it in context. I could 
better offer advice this way.

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Re: [WSG] problems in Firefox and Opera

[Paul Connolley]

Erietta Sapounakis wrote:
Hey there everyone
Hi Erietta
[snip]
#detail-tile ul  {margin-top:1em;}
#detail-tile li   {list-style-type:circle; display:block; 
list-style-position:inside;}
[snip]
...[snip rest]
Ultimately the problem lies within in your li statement:
display:block.
For a browser to render a list, the elements must be considered to be a 
"list-item" (thus, display : list-item). MSIE is erroneously displaying 
the circle bullets. I understand what you are trying to do but I 
recommend taking another route towards implementing it. Do you have a 
URI which I can look at in order to see it in context. I could better 
offer advice this way.
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Re: [WSG] problems in Firefox and Opera

[Patrick H. Lauke]

Erietta Sapounakis wrote:
#detail-tile li   {list-style-type:circle; display:block; 
list-style-position:inside;}
Remove display:block;
Any display other than display:list-item; kills the bullets, as far as 
I'm aware...

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[WSG] problems in Firefox and Opera

[Erietta Sapounakis]

Hey there everyone
Long time listener first time poster (with a question anyway). Here goes...
I am having difficulty styling what should be a simple bulletted list in 
Firefox and Opera. IE is strangely displaying what I want. Unfortunately 
I  can't upload the page (it does validate) but the CSS styles go
#detail-tile ul  {margin-top:1em;}
#detail-tile li   {list-style-type:circle; display:block; 
list-style-position:inside;}

the html goes


Quisque diam enim, semper quis,
eleifend vestibulum,
euismod pulvinar, est
Cum sociis natoque p


I have universally set styles for ul and li but changing these hasn't 
made any difference.  Is there something really simple that I am missing?

Thanks in advance
Erietta
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Re: [WSG] realtime CSS editor feedback pleased

[Susan R. Grossman]

> I would appreciate any feedback/comments about the functionality (I don't
> need feedback about the html as i know it is crap and needs to be fixed)
> It dosn't  always work (sometimes access denied errors occur)


I'm a little slow, so it took me a while to figure out how to work it,
so for me it wasn't quite intuitive enough.  This may not be the kind
of feedback you were looking for, but a simple "click to acess this
style"  or whatever would be helpful.I started instead with the
top drop down.  which of course doesn't make sense to start with
since it shows all the things you can add, not the existing
styles/id's.  Usability wise, I'd reverse the 2 lines of menus.   But
that's just me.

I also have to admit that I think in #000  & #fff, not color names, so
I had to look at what it was writing.  An option to type in a #xx
would be something I'd use instead, but again, others might think this
totally dumb.

I liked the tool and will continue to play with it when in IE.   I've
been using the toolbar itself since before it left beta (and some
features went away) when ever I have to look at things in IE, not my
browser of choice, but I'm there a lot.

Hope any of this was at all helpful.

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Re: [WSG] Ten questions for John Allsopp

[John Allsopp]

Cam,
Trust soft Australian journalists not to ask the tough
questions, such as how much drug consumption was going
on backstage at WE04 prior to the WWWF smackdown.
We had fantales, minties and water for all the speakers :-)
I think the overseas speakers we bemused by the first two
J
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Re: [WSG] Ten questions for John Allsopp

[Cameron Adams]

Trust soft Australian journalists not to ask the tough
questions, such as how much drug consumption was going
on backstage at WE04 prior to the WWWF smackdown.

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--- John Allsopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John,
> >
> > Included in the "more", by the way? This little
> nugget, dropped 
> > casually into an anecdote about rat's milk, the
> Simpsons and 
> > backpackers in internet cafes:
> >
> >So when I came to naming my blog, Sara, who by
> the time people read
> >this will be my wife ...
> >
> > is it off-topic to say "congratulations"?
> 
> I guess it is, but can I just point out that it
> hasn't quite happened 
> yet, as the interview went out earlier than
> anticipated.
> 
> Which is off topic, 'cept for the fact it is in a
> WSG interview with me 
> ;-)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> john
> 
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Re: [WSG] Color scheme

[Julián Landerreche]

I'm not sure, but I think I read about a tecnique that consists to 
pixelate a picture you like (I think it´s similar to the idea Erwin 
Heiser has suggested).
So, in a very pixelated view of the photo, you will find colour schemes 
you may like..
This article could be useful:
http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/05/14/colour_schem/index.php

Maniquí.
Erwin Heiser wrote:
Yo Mike,
What I sometimes do is take a photograph with a colour scheme I like 
and then
In Photoshop use the “tiles” filter to turn it into a set of tiles and 
presto: instant colour scheme!
Just my 2 cents...

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Re: [WSG] level boxes

[Susan R. Grossman]

> I've done this site and having a couple of problems. The 2 boxes Making
> a donation and Applying for a grant are supposed to be side by side but
> I can't seem to get them to do this. I copied the code from a similar
> layout on positioneverything website, any ideas?

Hi there, 

You have a number of problems on a PC including on Firefox

Fixing the code errors is usually the best place to start   About us  doen't have a closing   for instance,   and
 texttop isn't a valid attribute, and border and
alignment should be handled in the style sheet, not as img attributes,
and last there's a  - which should be .  These won't fix
your problems, but it's always a good start.  The errors cascade too.

1) the lines in the left "menu"  (#menu ul li) stretch past your
background into "main"  in both IE 6 (win xp) and Fierfox 1.0   A
quick fix would be giving it a width of about 134px, but it's probably
not the best solution since you'll get variants.

2)  In Firefox the "left" and "right" section aren't side by side. 
They have space around them so appear indented into the "tellow"
background,  and don't fit side by side, so "right" drops down.  (by
the way - I recommend a better naming convention that's more
descriptive)

html>body .right {margin-right: 12px; } /*** IE doubles the margin on
the float. This sets
the margin to the correct width for 
others ***/

 and the same for .left 


 is being read by firefox and  giving the extra space and forcing the
sections to not display next to each other.


In IE6 - the sub titles 's  "Ways to give " and "Applying for a
grant "  are dropped down. I didn't look at what's causing this, just
wanted to let you know.

For login here and Donate now - there are several issues.  SInce
they're wrapped in 's  you are telling them to be on separate
lines.   Removing those would allow them to be side by side if there
was enough space for them to be.Trying setting them in a  with
a style for a smaller font - but wrap all of it in the single tag, not
two  tags.

I hope some of this helps.   

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[WSG] Color scheme

[Erwin Heiser]

Title: Color scheme



Yo Mike,

What I sometimes do is take a photograph with a colour scheme I like and then
In Photoshop use the “tiles” filter to turn it into a set of tiles and presto: instant colour scheme!
Just my 2 cents...

Erwin Heiser

Re: [WSG] Color Schemes

[Sylvia Posadas]

http://www.sibagraphics.com/colour_matcher.php for web safe colours
and http://www.sibagraphics.com/colour_combinations.php for web
smart colours.

On 8 Nov 2004 at 13:40, Jad Madi wrote:

> http://color.twysted.net/
> http://www.colormatch.dk/
>
>
>
> On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 19:20:00 -0800, Robin Button
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mike:
> >
> > Try this link for color schemes:
> >
> > http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html
> >
> > Robin
> >
> > 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 9:19 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: digest for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Not sure if this is off-topic or not.  If it is, I apologise now.  But I
> > hope it isn't off-topic, so I'll continue … .
> >
> > Does anyone have a favourite colour scheme tool?What I'm looking for is
> > a tool for design-challenged klutzes like me (well ok it's actually FOR me.
> >  I admit it!) where I can take a couple of given colours such as in a logo,
> > and create a suggested colour scheme for a site?  With alternative
> > contrasting or complementary colours.
> >
> > I can spend as long trying to work out colours as I can on the whole rest of
> > the designing process.  I have read plenty of tutorials on the subject, so
> > that's not what I'm looking for.  The trouble is, every tutorial I read
> > makes it more obvious that I'm a ditz when it comes to colour and design.
> > (Something my wife has been telling me for 30 years).  I get more and more
> > confused as I read more.  What I'd like to find is something I saw once
> > years ago and can't find any more … I'd like to enter say two colours 
> > that I
> > get from a logo, and click to get a few colour scheme suggestions that would
> > work together with those colours.   From there I could refine the lighter
> > and darker colours I need using my own blender tool on my web site.
> >
> > (If you haven't seen that, I'm really proud of it.  It's the first design
> > tool I've ever made.  It's at http://afpwebworks.com/ColourSchemer/index.cfm
> >  - you put in the starting colour, and the finishing colour, and the number
> > of steps you want up to 20 and it'll give you the values of the 20 steps
> > from one colour to the other, with blocks and text in those colours. )
> >
> > Anyway, can anyone help me out with a colour scheme design tool please?
> >
> >
> > Cheers
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Re: [WSG] Ten questions for John Allsopp

[John Allsopp]

John,
Included in the "more", by the way? This little nugget, dropped 
casually into an anecdote about rat's milk, the Simpsons and 
backpackers in internet cafes:

   So when I came to naming my blog, Sara, who by the time people read
   this will be my wife ...
is it off-topic to say "congratulations"?
I guess it is, but can I just point out that it hasn't quite happened 
yet, as the interview went out earlier than anticipated.

Which is off topic, 'cept for the fact it is in a WSG interview with me 
;-)

Thanks,
john
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Re[2]: [WSG] Re: Flyout menu questions

[Iain Harrison]

Monday, November 8, 2004, 10:10:04 PM, Ron wrote:

> The main issue there will be trying to balance easy access to nested
> information without frustrating the user with unusable navigation.

I suggest that you have a high-level menu for main (section
contents?) pages, and a fine-detail menu for each section.

There's one big site I maintain that used to have this arrangement,
but I replaced them with cascading menus, but after 18 months or so,
I now want to change it back. When time permits!

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Re: [WSG] Ten questions for John Allsopp

[John Horner]

John talks about CSS Samuari, standards, Dao, dogs, line-height, font-size
and more:
http://webstandardsgroup.org/features/john-allsopp.cfm
Included in the "more", by the way? This little nugget, dropped 
casually into an anecdote about rat's milk, the Simpsons and 
backpackers in internet cafes:

   So when I came to naming my blog, Sara, who by the time people read
   this will be my wife ...
is it off-topic to say "congratulations"?

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RE: [WSG] Re: Flyout menu questions

[Pringle, Ron]

Thanks all for your responses. I left off tackling the final navigation til
last because I knew it was going to be an issue that needs a lot of thought.

My current thinking, after reviewing the responses, is to break the
navigation down by each section. If I make the nav section an editable part
of my master template and use code snippets for the menu and submenu code, I
should still be able to easily update the site without too many problems.

The main issue there will be trying to balance easy access to nested
information without frustrating the user with unusable navigation. The
city's website is so dense and information-rich, it seems overwhelming to me
at times.

I do provide breadcrumbs at the top of the main content as a visual marker
for where the user is in the site, but will probably also implement the
suggestion of a visual marker for sub-menu items, depending on the sort of
menu I ultimately use.

I think I will code up a variety of test nav systems and run them by you all
again, as well as some non-design, average users.

Thanks for the invaluable feedback!

Regards,
Ron
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[WSG] Re: Flyout menu questions

[Laura Carlson]

Some references:
http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/navigation#menus
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RE: [WSG] Flyout menu questions

[Derek Featherstone]

Pringle, Ron wrote:

>Ideas, criticisms, suggestions and opinions welcomed.
>
>http://www.aurora-il.org/testsite/index.htm

Hi Ron,

I know this isn't exactly what you were looking for, but I went to do a
quick navigation test via keyboard and found that I couldn't. You should
remove the onkeypress redundancy for your style sheet switcher. As it
stands, I can't tab past the stylesheet switcher because of the onkeypress
handler.

In many browsers onkeypress can break keyboard navigation - certainly an
unintended consequence - where trying to help accessibility actually hinders
it. Onclick is a misnomer, at least the way it has been implemented in
browsers. It actually behaves more like onactivate, so onclick will be just
fine for keyboard users as well.

Hope this helps...
Best regards,
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Re: [WSG] Flyout menu questions

[Anders Nawroth]

Pringle, Ron wrote:
Ideas, criticisms, suggestions and opinions welcomed.
http://www.aurora-il.org/testsite/index.htm
 

I think it's to difficult to use for many visitors, flyouts are not so 
easy to handle for everybody!

If you make "Aldermans office" and so on clickable, and point the links 
to simple menu-pages with the sub-choices, it would be a good 
alternative for users that have trouble with the flyouts. -- I do it 
this way myself, creating the submenus dynamically with Php.

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[WSG] The coolest developer tool since Chris's firefox developer toolbar

[Ted Drake]

I might even say cooler but some would find that almost sacriligeous.

Slayeroffice has some great favelets but check out the favelet suites.
http://slayeroffice.com/?c=/content/tools/suite.html

I really like the mouseover DOM inspector, style sheet editor, and the color 
analysis tools.
It's free and the guy deserves a big pat on the back.

Ted Drake
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Re: [WSG] Flyout menu questions

[klessa]

> especially on small screen real estate. My biggest problem with it is the
> depth of the submenus, how easy it is to slip off a menu 3 layers deep and
> lose your place and the fact that the menus don't remain visible for a few
> seconds after mousing off them.

I think that's a big flaw in those menus in particular, that you don't
'remember' where you are after you've clicked on a link. What I've done is
either use breadcrumbs to show location, OR use a common piece of code for
the navigation that you can use to update the link images to reflect where
you are (to "stick", essentially).

> I'm looking for a review of the navigation along with opinions and
> suggestions, within the following constraints:
>
> 1. This site is templated via a single master template in DW. I would
> prefer
> NOT to have to use more than the one template for the site, as it will
> exponentially increase my workload with each additional section/template.

Understand that, but you might end up being happier if you replaced the
template with some common code include navigation so you have more
control.

I think the site looks great, but I prefer some sort of visual indicator
on the individual menu items to indicate that there is additional content
below.


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Re: [WSG] Flyout menu questions

[Kim Kruse]

Hi Ron,
I've seen some pretty good menu system over at ProjectSeven.com
Specially these 2 might be of interest...
http://www.projectseven.com/viewer/index.asp?demo=tmm
http://www.projectseven.com/viewer/index.asp?demo=mm2
They are quite accessible and degrades gracefully with javascript turned of.
Kim
Pringle, Ron wrote:
Hello all-
I am in the process of redeveloping a large, content heavy municipal site.
There is an extraordinarily large amount of information on the current site,
and a large number of departments that need to be represented in the
navigation.
I've used the Son Of Suckerfish code to build out a flyout menu system.
Works great, looks nice. However, some of the menus get as many as five
layers deep. I'm concerned about usability (by regular and impaired users),
especially on small screen real estate. My biggest problem with it is the
depth of the submenus, how easy it is to slip off a menu 3 layers deep and
lose your place and the fact that the menus don't remain visible for a few
seconds after mousing off them.
I'm looking for a review of the navigation along with opinions and
suggestions, within the following constraints:
1. This site is templated via a single master template in DW. I would prefer
NOT to have to use more than the one template for the site, as it will
exponentially increase my workload with each additional section/template.
2. I've looked at the vertically expanding/collapsing menu systems, and have
pretty much ruled them out for use on my site for a variety of reasons.
Ideas, criticisms, suggestions and opinions welcomed.
http://www.aurora-il.org/testsite/index.htm
Only the first 3 menu items in the vertical nav have been flushed out.
Regards,
Ron
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[WSG] Flyout menu questions

[Pringle, Ron]

Hello all-

I am in the process of redeveloping a large, content heavy municipal site.
There is an extraordinarily large amount of information on the current site,
and a large number of departments that need to be represented in the
navigation.

I've used the Son Of Suckerfish code to build out a flyout menu system.
Works great, looks nice. However, some of the menus get as many as five
layers deep. I'm concerned about usability (by regular and impaired users),
especially on small screen real estate. My biggest problem with it is the
depth of the submenus, how easy it is to slip off a menu 3 layers deep and
lose your place and the fact that the menus don't remain visible for a few
seconds after mousing off them.

I'm looking for a review of the navigation along with opinions and
suggestions, within the following constraints:

1. This site is templated via a single master template in DW. I would prefer
NOT to have to use more than the one template for the site, as it will
exponentially increase my workload with each additional section/template.

2. I've looked at the vertically expanding/collapsing menu systems, and have
pretty much ruled them out for use on my site for a variety of reasons.

Ideas, criticisms, suggestions and opinions welcomed.

http://www.aurora-il.org/testsite/index.htm

Only the first 3 menu items in the vertical nav have been flushed out.

Regards,
Ron

p.s. for a good laugh, look at the current site at http://www.aurora-il.org



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Re: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

[Secret Agent Gel]

> In case anyone doesn't know, see:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-MathML/chap6/ISOAMSA2.html
> for a good list of arrows/symbols.

thanks for this link. how well are these supported on any browser? i see
no notes about it.

thanks,

corey
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[WSG] level boxes

[blueyonder]

Hi
I've done this site and having a couple of problems. The 2 boxes Making 
a donation and Applying for a grant are supposed to be side by side but 
I can't seem to get them to do this. I copied the code from a similar 
layout on positioneverything website, any ideas?

http://www.apperleydesign.co.uk/cdf/index.htm
http://www.apperleydesign.co.uk/cdf/cdf.css
Also I have created it on a mac so it could look like a dogs dinner on 
PC IE!

Thanks
Lindsey Hill

Apperley Design
design | create | innovate
T: 01274 421410
www.apperleydesign.co.uk
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[WSG] Ten questions for John Allsopp

[russ - maxdesign]

John talks about CSS Samuari, standards, Dao, dogs, line-height, font-size
and more:
http://webstandardsgroup.org/features/john-allsopp.cfm

Russ

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Re: [WSG] Color Schemes

[Jad Madi]

http://color.twysted.net/
http://www.colormatch.dk/



On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 19:20:00 -0800, Robin Button
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike:
> 
> Try this link for color schemes:
> 
> http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 9:19 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: digest for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Not sure if this is off-topic or not.  If it is, I apologise now.  But I
> hope it isn't off-topic, so I'll continue â .
>  
> Does anyone have a favourite colour scheme tool?What I'm looking for is
> a tool for design-challenged klutzes like me (well ok it's actually FOR me.
>  I admit it!) where I can take a couple of given colours such as in a logo,
> and create a suggested colour scheme for a site?  With alternative
> contrasting or complementary colours.
>  
> I can spend as long trying to work out colours as I can on the whole rest of
> the designing process.  I have read plenty of tutorials on the subject, so
> that's not what I'm looking for.  The trouble is, every tutorial I read
> makes it more obvious that I'm a ditz when it comes to colour and design.
> (Something my wife has been telling me for 30 years).  I get more and more
> confused as I read more.  What I'd like to find is something I saw once
> years ago and can't find any more â I'd like to enter say two colours that I
> get from a logo, and click to get a few colour scheme suggestions that would
> work together with those colours.   From there I could refine the lighter
> and darker colours I need using my own blender tool on my web site. 
>  
> (If you haven't seen that, I'm really proud of it.  It's the first design
> tool I've ever made.  It's at http://afpwebworks.com/ColourSchemer/index.cfm
>  - you put in the starting colour, and the finishing colour, and the number
> of steps you want up to 20 and it'll give you the values of the 20 steps
> from one colour to the other, with blocks and text in those colours. )
>  
> Anyway, can anyone help me out with a colour scheme design tool please?
>  
>  
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> AFP Webworks
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> http://afpwebworks.com
> .com, .net, .org etc domains start at A$20/year
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Re: [WSG] Fonts size problem

[Felix Miata]

Javier wrote:
 
> I'm developing a web page using "em" to define font sizes. When I see the
> page in Firefox or Mozilla, size it's ok for me. But when I see the same
> page with IE, fonts appear so small...
 
> How could I make fonts appear in the same size (or at least, something
> similar) in IE and Firefox ?

Does your IE have the font resizer set to something smaller than medium?

Check out http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=UsingEms and
http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/defaultsize.html
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Re: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

[designer]

In case anyone doesn't know, see:

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-MathML/chap6/ISOAMSA2.html

for a good list of arrows/symbols.

Bob McClelland,
Cornwall (U.K.)
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Re: [WSG] Fonts size problem

[Ryan Short]

Javier wrote:
Hi All
I've problems with font sizes.
I'm developing a web page using "em" to define font sizes. When I see the
page in Firefox or Mozilla, size it's ok for me. But when I see the same
page with IE, fonts appear so small...
How could I make fonts appear in the same size (or at least, something
similar) in IE and Firefox ?
Thanks in advance
Javier

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I did have lots of trouble with the various sizes when starting out with 
ems, I found

http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/typography/incremental_differences.html
to be a lot of help. Using the ideas from here I generally size the text 
at 76% for the body then adjust the other rules as necessary. Its not 
exact but its pretty close.

I hope this is some help.
--Ryan
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[WSG] Fonts size problem

[Javier]

Hi All

I've problems with font sizes.

I'm developing a web page using "em" to define font sizes. When I see the
page in Firefox or Mozilla, size it's ok for me. But when I see the same
page with IE, fonts appear so small...

How could I make fonts appear in the same size (or at least, something
similar) in IE and Firefox ?

Thanks in advance

Javier




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