Re: [WSG] Affiliate link code validation errors

2004-12-24 Thread Will Jensen
Sorry, forgot to mention that  with the change from the  alone to using the amp; did allow validation under XHTML 1.1. AND, the link did go to the shopping cart page at Opera web site.

Now to that question - will the Opera server correctly record the transaction for affiliate credit? Or does the change cause errors.

Will Jensen
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On Dec 24, 2004, at 10:29 AM, Jeroen Visser [ vizi ] wrote:

If you replace '' with 'amp;' in your code, your link will probably validate. In XHTML, the ampersand is strictly reserved to start an HTML entity; because the validator doesn't see a valid entity following the , it throws an error.


Re: [WSG] Affiliate link code validation errors

2004-12-24 Thread Bert Doorn
Will Jensen wrote:
I am concerned that if someone uses the 'corrected' link to go to the
Opera site, that the use of amp; will cause an error in the
affiliate ID registration process... Or is this just foolishness on my
part?
The only  foolish question is the one that's not asked, although the 
answer was only a click or hover away (on your encoded link)  Click on 
your encoded link and see what ends up in your address bar  

Browsers translate the amp; to an ampersand when you click on the link 
(or even hover over them).   I have used this for years and have gone 
much further with encoded mailto: links that look like gibberish in the 
HTML.  It's always worked fine.

What does a browser show when you put gt; or quot; in your HTML?   

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Re: [WSG] Affiliate link code validation errors

2004-12-24 Thread Will Jensen
Thanks to Bert and Jeroen - It all 'just works.' Have a merry one!

Will Jensen
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On Dec 24, 2004, at 11:22 AM, Bert Doorn wrote:

Will Jensen wrote:

I am concerned that if someone uses the 'corrected' link to go to the
Opera site, that the use of amp; will cause an error in the
affiliate ID registration process... Or is this just foolishness on my
part?

The only  foolish question is the one that's not asked, although the answer was only a click or hover away (on your encoded link)  Click on your encoded link and see what ends up in your address bar  
Browsers translate the amp; to an ampersand when you click on the link (or even hover over them).   I have used this for years and have gone much further with encoded mailto: links that look like gibberish in the HTML.  It's always worked fine.

What does a browser show when you put gt; or quot; in your HTML?   
Regards
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[WSG] way OT: merry x-mas

2004-12-24 Thread Kim Kruse
Hi,
I know this is way OT but I just wanted to wish everybody on this great 
mailing list and the people running the list a merry Christmas from a 
satisfied member in Denmark covered in snow.

http://mouseriders.dk/x-mas.jpg
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Re: [WSG] Display Differences

2004-12-24 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Not sure the use of images as headlines, is a good move.
rocks current projects sounds nice, but what is the headline?
Some IR or plain text would be better for accessibility.
As the image of the rocks is purely presentational, it should have a 
null alt attribute of alt=, and not rocks.
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RE: [WSG] Display Differences

2004-12-24 Thread Lori Leach
Georg,

Thank you very much for the time you spent to look at this for me.

I really don't want to use the quick fix - so I will try again to do the
one image. I did that before, and it was giving me problems.

The skip nav is not needed - I just grabbed a HTML template from a previous
client I did, and have yet to take that out. Thanks for the reminder.

I really want THAT font (displayed to ALL) that is used for the headers and
the nav and that is why they are images, but I know for accessibility I
really need to bite it and use text nav and H1's for headers..

I will have the list check again once I make the top a full image again.

Thank you again Georg,

Lori Leach
Zenful Creations (under redesign)
http://www.zenfulcreations.com/



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[WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry

2004-12-24 Thread russ - maxdesign
Now there were some people on-list who thought the last Zen Garden entry I
posted lacked a certain wow factor. Well, how about this entry which seems
to have it all... Style... Class... Wow... and lots of animation!

http://brucelawson.co.uk/zengarden.htm

:)
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RE: [WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry

2004-12-24 Thread Brett Walsh
Certainly has WOW! Talk about a vibrant background.


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Subject: [WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry

Now there were some people on-list who thought the last Zen Garden entry I
posted lacked a certain wow factor. Well, how about this entry which seems
to have it all... Style... Class... Wow... and lots of animation!

http://brucelawson.co.uk/zengarden.htm

:)
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Re: [WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry

2004-12-24 Thread JohnyB
WOW... Yeah, that's the right one to be posted here :
Sweet 90ies ;)
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Re: [WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry

2004-12-24 Thread Marilyn Langfeld
Ouch!

Best regards,

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On Dec 24, 2004, at 9:38 AM, russ - maxdesign wrote:

Now there were some people on-list who thought the last Zen Garden entry I
posted lacked a certain wow factor. Well, how about this entry which seems
to have it all... Style... Class... Wow... and lots of animation!

http://brucelawson.co.uk/zengarden.htm

:)
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[WSG] New to this Lark!

2004-12-24 Thread Ian Ian
hey Gang,

I signed up to the List a week or so ago and I've been sifting through
my new inbox messages. Anyway Hopefully I'll be partipating from today
onwards.

A simple Introduction..My Name Is Ian Cox. I'm 19 and I'm a
Multimedia Student living in Manchester.

So, My site is http://www.ianjamescox.com and I'm always looking to
improve it. Please Take a look at it and comment if you wish!

Thanks, and a Merry Christmas to all...

,Ian
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RE: [WSG] New to this Lark!

2004-12-24 Thread Lori Leach
Hi Ian - you know me already (from DO) ;)

Welcome - I saw your site the other day from the link in your sig, and was
going to mail you about your navigation...

Your CONTACT link is falling down below the rest of them in Firefox. Let me
know if you want a screenshot.

Again, welcome and nice to see you here! And a Merry Christmas to you too.

Lori Leach
Zenful Creations
http://www.zenfulcreations.com/



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So, My site is http://www.ianjamescox.com and I'm always looking to
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RE: [WSG] New to this Lark!

2004-12-24 Thread Bennie Shepherd
Lori,
  Thought I'd let you know that your navigation is broken in FF 1 
and also Opera 7.5
Tried to email you from the site, but the send button wouldn't send.

Bennie
On 12/24/2004 11:44:02 AM, wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote:
 Hi Ian - you know me already (from DO) ;)

 Welcome - I saw your site the other day from the link in your sig, and
 was
 going to mail you about your navigation...

 Your CONTACT link is falling down below the rest of them in Firefox. Let
 me
 know if you want a screenshot.

 Again, welcome and nice to see you here! And a Merry Christmas to you 
too.


 Lori Leach
 Zenful Creations
 http://www.zenfulcreations.com/



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RE: [WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry

2004-12-24 Thread Henry Tapia
 Now there were some people on-list who thought the last Zen Garden entry I
 posted lacked a certain wow factor. Well, how about this entry 
 which seems
 to have it all... Style... Class... Wow... and lots of animation!
 
 http://brucelawson.co.uk/zengarden.htm



NOW YOU'RE TALKING my language Russ!

Happy New Year all

hank

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Re: [WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry

2004-12-24 Thread Gary Menzel
Russ.

You left out vomit appeal!

Gary

[PS - however, it does show that you can do ANYTHING with the CSS Zen
Garden approach]


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 More proof that good/bad design is nothing whatever to do with
 tools/code/software, and everything to do with the designer's mind.
 
 Merry Christmas everyone!
 
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 posted lacked a certain wow factor. Well, how about this entry which seems
 to have it all... Style... Class... Wow... and lots of animation!
 
 http://brucelawson.co.uk/zengarden.htm
 
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[WSG] CSS/Markup Nightmare

2004-12-24 Thread Tatham Oddie








Hi all,

Im
currently having a CSS/markup nightmare Any help with this would be
greatly appreciated.

The aim is
to make my page like the mockup I have  http://www.e-oddie.com/e-oddie2/skins/Summer/Mockup.jpg.
However, Im having a nightmare making the boxes (something I thought
would be a simple process).

I have a
sample page at http://www.e-oddie.com/e-oddie2/default.aspx.
And the CSS file at http://www.e-oddie.com/e-oddie2/skins/Summer.css.

Things Id
like to sort out are:


 The CSS isnt any where near working
 (obviously)
 The markup Ive used seems like an overkill
 so Id like to simplify it


Thinks to
note are:


 The markup has to be generic enough that I can
 create different boxes just by changing the CSS (there are 3 sections with
 3 different colour schemes to identify them)
 Id like to aim for at least 4.01 strict or
 hopefully XHTML/1.1 compliance (preferred)


In advance,
thanks for any help!




 
  
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Re: [WSG] CSS/Markup Nightmare

2004-12-24 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Tatham Oddie wrote:
The aim is to make my page like the mockup I have  
http://www.e-oddie.com/e-oddie2/skins/Summer/Mockup.jpg. However, Im 
having a nightmare making the boxes (something I thought would be a 
simple process).
Fixed or fluid size?
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RE: [WSG] CSS/Markup Nightmare

2004-12-24 Thread Tatham Oddie
David,
I've managed to mostly get it working now thanks to the ALA article (why
didn't I look there first...)
I've updated the version at http://www.e-oddie.com/e-oddie2/default.aspx.
I think the markup could still use some improvement but I'm much happier
now.

Thanks,
Tatham 


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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS/Markup Nightmare

Hi

My suggestion to achieve the rounded corners, is to use the 
tried-and-tested method of using wrappers, but this is hardly ideal.

Another option is to define positioned divs to each of the corners

Hmmm, I've just realised you could hook existing tags:

Say:

div class=boxContainer
div class=boxHeader
   h2Box Title goes here/h2
/div
div class=boxBody
   pContent, blah!/p
/div
/div

You could adjust margins and background images to the boxContainer, 
boxHeader, the h2 element, the boxBody, and paragraph element to achive 
the effect

I suggest you read this ALA article:

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customcorners/

HTH
-David R

Tatham Oddie wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm currently having a CSS/markup nightmare. Any help with this would be 
 greatly appreciated.
 
 The aim is to make my page like the mockup I have - 
 http://www.e-oddie.com/e-oddie2/skins/Summer/Mockup.jpg. However, I'm 
 having a nightmare making the boxes (something I thought would be a 
 simple process).
 
 I have a sample page at http://www.e-oddie.com/e-oddie2/default.aspx. 
 And the CSS file at http://www.e-oddie.com/e-oddie2/skins/Summer.css.
 
 Things I'd like to sort out are:
 
 * The CSS isn't any where near working (obviously)
 * The markup I've used seems like an overkill so I'd like to simplify
it
 
 Thinks to note are:
 
 * The markup has to be generic enough that I can create different
   boxes just by changing the CSS (there are 3 sections with 3
   different colour schemes to identify them)
 * I'd like to aim for at least 4.01 strict or hopefully XHTML/1.1
   compliance (preferred)
 
 In advance, thanks for any help!

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[WSG] NEED HELP PLEASE !

2004-12-24 Thread berry
I understand that the list is dedicated to CSS but as Standard Group I
presume someone can answer my DOM question.

I search evrywhere on the web, I read books, I make many test using the w3c
specification and the fireFox information but It seems that it is
impossible to be done.
As I know that people on this list are usually very uptodate with standard
and w3c specification maybe someone has the answer

I am trying to create an Event to add it to a html tag.  I thought that the
answer was createEvent(MouseEvents) but it was not the case. createEvent
doesn't work the same way as a createElement.  It simulate an event but
don't write the event.

What I am looking for is a function wich has the ability to write the event
as such:
el=CreateEvent (mousedown)
el.eventFunction=abc(z,y,x)
HTMLelement(mydiv).append(el)

and the result must be as such  div id=mydiv onmousedown=abc(x,y,z)
/div

addEventListener doesn't help me because we can not add the function
(this) and if we made a save of the complete page we see that the event was
not written. In the case of createElement the object would have been
written in the page.  The other problem with addEventListener, it executes
once we call it.


I know that for the Java DOM  there is object.setEvent(onclick, abc(this) )

would someone have an Idea

Thanks in advance

happy hollidays

Berry






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[WSG] Float problem in IE6

2004-12-24 Thread Tatham Oddie








Hey everyone,

Im getting a float problem in IE6
that I dont understand.

The URL is http://www.e-oddie.com/e-oddie2/.

For an idea of how it should display (the
problem is pretty obvious) take a look in Firefox. I havent tested it in
any other browsers (dont have them installed) so any help in that
department would be greatly appreciated.

Any design tips would be greatly
appreciated while were at it too (trying to finalise design today).



Thanks in advance!

Tatham








Re: [WSG] NEED HELP PLEASE !

2004-12-24 Thread berry
Thank you for the info but I have already try this and it doesn't work as I
expected.
This kind of script  is not able to add the script to HTML tag. If you read
the script you will see that it doesn't attribute a function to the click.

What I am looking for is something which is able to write the script
physically on the page. In such way when you save the page you can find
the information you have created.

What I am looking for it is a kind of setAttribute  because all the code
which refer to UIEvent, dispatchEvent, initEvent,  initMouseEvent... manage
the behavior of the event virtually and the creatEvent doesn't write the
event it is more like a punctual event.

I hope I succeeded to make myself  understand.


The script of your page  is not a IE script is a standard script expect for
the declaration of the variable.

Berry

You needed to search further:

(searched Google with createEvent javascript)

http://www.itworld.com/nl/javascript/05072002/

But you may find it will only work with IE.

Regards,
Gary








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Re: [WSG] Float problem in IE6

2004-12-24 Thread Gunlaug Srtun
Tatham Oddie wrote:
Im getting a float problem in IE6 that I dont understand.
The URL is http://www.e-oddie.com/e-oddie2/.
The problem is known as margin-doubling in IE/win.
display: inline will fix that in your case.
On top of that you have also made it a bit tight in there, so IE/win
will drop the main column on narrow window.
A small negative back-margin on the float will help.
For an idea of how it should display (the problem is pretty obvious)
 take a look in Firefox.
This should make it hold in IE/win, until the window gets really narrow.
Put it at the bottom of your stylesheet.
@media all {
* html div.blockRight {display: inline; margin-left: -3%;}
}
Georg
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