[WSG] Font Display Problem ... !

2005-03-09 Thread Meraj Rasool Khattak
Hello, 

I have tried to built a site through valid XHTML  CSS
(although it is not 100% valid XHTML) 

I have a very strange problem with font displaying 
rendering (as my users have complained). Problem is
that, when someone visits the site some time he sees
the font a bit large (if they refresh the page, they
are able to see the normal font)  some time normal
(as I want them to look at). Site address is :

http://www.pakbill.net/genius
http://www.pakbill.net/genius/style.css

Can anybody guide me how could I fix this error ?

Best wishes  regards,

-Khattak

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Re: [WSG] Font Display Problem ... !

2005-03-09 Thread David Laakso
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 00:42:13 -0800 (PST), Meraj Rasool Khattak  
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[...]
I have a very strange problem with font displaying 
rendering (as my users have complained). Problem is
that, when someone visits the site some time he sees
the font a bit large (if they refresh the page, they
are able to see the normal font)  some time normal
(as I want them to look at). Site address is :
http://www.pakbill.net/genius
http://www.pakbill.net/genius/style.css
[...]
The problem may be in part due to  mixed bag of absolute and relative  
font-sizing on the same style sheet.
Try this on the body:
body {margin: 0;padding: 0;background:  
url(../images/bg_full.png);font-family: lucida grande, verdana,  
sans-serif;
font-size: 100.01%;line-height: 150%;}
Use % for font-size and line-height throughout the the style sheet to  
adjust individual elements, classes, and id s as necessary
(it may get a little tricky when dealing with the cascade).
Since you're only using one font-family, you can delete all further  
instances that family in the remainder of the style sheet.
The declaration above the doctype ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?  
is putting IE in quirks mode, and can be deleted.
Regards,
David

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Re: [WSG] Image at the bottom of a column

2005-03-09 Thread Dennis Murphy Anderson
on 3/9/05 9:23 AM, Carlos Rincon Sanchez at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I need to put an image at the bottom of a column. The web page has 3
 colored columns using this:
 http://www.redmelon.net/tstme/3cols2/
 
 I need something like this:
 http://www.neuroticweb.com/imagenes/pantallazo.gif
 

Why don't you simply use it as a background image for the div?

Try adding this to the left column css


background: YOURCOLOR url(../images/YOURLOGO.jpg) no-repeat center bottom;

you'll probably have to adjust the padding or space at the bottom to make
sure whatever text you wind up putting in that column doesn't overlap the
image underneath.

others may have a cleaner solution.

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[WSG] Browser [Firefox IE] Navbar issues

2005-03-09 Thread Jenny Francois
Hello All,

I'm new to the group.  I'm having some coding issues on a site I'm creating.

I'm using horizontal menus within a 2 column template.

Here is the direct link to the page: 

http://www.aekituesday.com/interviews/index.html

How can I get this to display correctly in both IE  Firefox?

Also, I'm experiencing sidebar issues. In IE it looks great. The
sidebar is in perfect place but in Firefox it's not.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jenny
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Re: [WSG] Image at the bottom of a column

2005-03-09 Thread David Laakso
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:23:56 +0100, Carlos Rincon Sanchez  
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Hi all,
I need to put an image at the bottom of a column. The web page has 3
colored columns using this:
http://www.redmelon.net/tstme/3cols2/
An alternate to the background image approach, might be something like  
this:
HTML
div class=left
   h2Why this is cool:/h2
div id=navcontainerulliAny total width, easy to modify/li/ul
/div
img src= whatever.jpg height=? width=? alt=? title=? /	
 /div
CSS
#navcontainer {?...}
.left img { margin: 0 0 ?px ?px;}
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Re: [WSG] Image at the bottom of a column

2005-03-09 Thread pixeldiva
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:23:56 +0100, Carlos Rincon Sanchez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I need to put an image at the bottom of a column. The web page has 3
 colored columns using this:
 http://www.redmelon.net/tstme/3cols2/
 
 I need something like this:
 http://www.neuroticweb.com/imagenes/pantallazo.gif
 
 Anyone knows how to make it?
 
 First we tried to put the image in the footer and then putting a
 margin-top negative. It works with firefox but it doesn't with
 iexplorer.

You might find this -
http://www.positioniseverything.net/piefecta-rigid.html - helpful.

Cheers,

pix
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Re: [WSG] Problems with floats in IE

2005-03-09 Thread David Laakso
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:07:28 +, Stuart Homfray  
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[...]
Have a look at:
http://www.stuarthomfray.co.uk/temp/WorkingPage.html
(CSS: http://www.stuarthomfray.co.uk/temp/WorkingCSS.css)
As to why it seems to work, I have no idea. Anyone?
HTH
Stuart
Stuart, I regret to say Opera7.54u2 is not happy with it.
Best,
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Re: [WSG] Problems with floats in IE

2005-03-09 Thread Stuart Homfray
David Laakso wrote:
Stuart, I regret to say Opera7.54u2 is not happy with it.
Best,
~david
Absolutely - well spotted!! ;) (grins sheepishly)
Seriously, stupid of me not to have checked before posting - the 
fieldset isn't clearing the submit button.

I noticed that Tatham has an empty paragraph within the fieldset: if 
this is going to be utilised somewhere down the line, you could simply 
clear that -

fieldset p {
clear: both;
}
Just added it to style sheet posted previously!
regards,
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Re: [WSG] Lime Green Bug On Mac IE

2005-03-09 Thread John Horner
Thanks both Phillippe and Neerav for responding. Perhaps it was, as 
Phillippe suggests, my memory at fault, and the transparent/inherit 
problem I recalled was Netscape 4 not Mac IE5.

I'm still waiting for the guy (he's interstate) to confirm the 
browser and version, but it's almost certainly going to be IE5 Mac or 
NN4 Mac. The problem is with the print stylesheet rather than the 
screen one.

The problem can be observed, apparently, by using Print Preview on this page:
 http://www.abc.net.au/news/items/200503/1318290.htm?brisbane
server-side geeks might be interested in that URL by the way, we've 
recently cooked up a kind of semi-dynamic publishing method to save 
multiple handling of the same story.

   Have You Validated Your Code?
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[WSG] Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Helmut Granda
I dont know if it is ok to post this kind of question here.
I am trying to play a simple Mp3 file in the server, it works in IE, and 
I have read that if something works on IE but not in other browsers it 
is most likely because it is not writen properly. I have tested it 
extensibly in my machine and it is working. I have used the deprecated 
embed tag and the object tag, both work on my computer and on IE on 
the server, but not on FF.

Could some one take a look and help me find where I am making the 
mistake? Web references are good too. I have been searching for nearly 3 
hours in different sites but none that I have found cover mp3, I even 
found a way around to embed Media Player in FF.

Here is my code:
OBJECT CLASSID=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B 
WIDTH=144HEIGHT=16
CODEBASE=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab;
PARAM name=SRC VALUE=MP3%20File.mp3
PARAM name=AUTOPLAY VALUE=true
PARAM name=CONTROLLER VALUE=true
EMBED SRC=MP3%20File.mp3 WIDTH=144 HEIGHT=16 AUTOPLAY=true 
CONTROLLER=true PLUGINSPAGE=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
/EMBED
/OBJECT

TIA,
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Re: [WSG] Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Helmut Granda wrote:
Could some one take a look and help me find where I am making the 
mistake? Web references are good too. I have been searching for nearly 
3 hours in different sites but none that I have found cover mp3, I 
even found a way around to embed Media Player in FF.
How isn't it working?
Your example code works for me on a local mp3 file, so it's probably to 
do with your particular configuration of Firefox,

1. First see whether Firefox is configured to use Quicktime correctly by 
typing about:plugins into your Firefox address bar. Here you can see 
mime-types and which applications are associated... so see if Quicktime 
is being referenced for the file extension and mime-type.
2. And then see whether your server is configured correctly and sending 
out the right http mime-type header (audio/x-mp3). You can use 
http://www.delorie.com/web/headers.html to check your server's response 
headers.

If that doesn't work try stripping down your object to refer to 
mime-types rather than classids or codebases. This way if they've got 
Windows Media Player it will play mp3s in that, and if they've got 
Quicktime it'll play mp3s in that. This does mean supporting a few more 
parameters though as the ways of starting play aren't standardised but 
it's more likely to Just Work.

ps. it's an old hack, but lying in the mime-type and using audio/wav 
gets past a lot of plugin screw-ups.
pps. cool name.

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[WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Helmut Granda
I dont know if it is ok to post this kind of question here.
I am trying to play a simple Mp3 file in the server, it works in IE, and 
I have read that if something works on IE but not in other browsers it 
is most likely because it is not writen properly. I have tested it 
extensibly in my machine and it is working. I have used the deprecated 
embed tag and the object tag, both work on my computer and on IE on 
the server, but not on FF.

Could some one take a look and help me find where I am making the 
mistake? Web references are good too. I have been searching for nearly 3 
hours in different sites but none that I have found cover mp3, I even 
found a way around to embed Media Player in FF.

Here is my code:
OBJECT CLASSID=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B 
WIDTH=144HEIGHT=16
CODEBASE=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab;
PARAM name=SRC VALUE=MP3%20File.mp3
PARAM name=AUTOPLAY VALUE=true
PARAM name=CONTROLLER VALUE=true
EMBED SRC=MP3%20File.mp3 WIDTH=144 HEIGHT=16 AUTOPLAY=true 
CONTROLLER=true PLUGINSPAGE=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
/EMBED
/OBJECT

TIA,
Helmut
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Re: [WSG] Problems with floats in IE

2005-03-09 Thread Kornel Lesinski

Stuart, I regret to say Opera7.54u2 is not happy with it.

fieldset p {
 clear: both;
}
BTW: Latest Opera 8 beta has issue with floating fieldsets fixed (well,  
mostly).

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Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread John Britsios
Dear Helmut,

You have two errors.

Line 2: A quoted string cannot be immediately followed by text. It must be
followed by a space or the end of the tag.

Line 7: The EMBED element cannot be used here. It is not contained in an
element that allows its use.

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- Original Message - 
From: Helmut Granda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF


 I dont know if it is ok to post this kind of question here.

 I am trying to play a simple Mp3 file in the server, it works in IE, and
 I have read that if something works on IE but not in other browsers it
 is most likely because it is not writen properly. I have tested it
 extensibly in my machine and it is working. I have used the deprecated
 embed tag and the object tag, both work on my computer and on IE on
 the server, but not on FF.

 Could some one take a look and help me find where I am making the
 mistake? Web references are good too. I have been searching for nearly 3
 hours in different sites but none that I have found cover mp3, I even
 found a way around to embed Media Player in FF.

 Here is my code:

 OBJECT CLASSID=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 WIDTH=144HEIGHT=16
 CODEBASE=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab;
 PARAM name=SRC VALUE=MP3%20File.mp3
 PARAM name=AUTOPLAY VALUE=true
 PARAM name=CONTROLLER VALUE=true
 EMBED SRC=MP3%20File.mp3 WIDTH=144 HEIGHT=16 AUTOPLAY=true
 CONTROLLER=true PLUGINSPAGE=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 /EMBED
 /OBJECT

 TIA,
 Helmut


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Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Helmut Granda
Thanks to John and Matthew to take the time to respond,
I have tried all your suggestions, and still it didnt work, BUT I went 
ahead and uploaded the file to a different server and it works.

Now! puts a big ? on my forehead, is there any specific reason or any 
specific setting that has to be done to enable qt movies to play in any 
browser?

This seems really strange to me since I have the same files in 2 
different servers and in one it works only in IE and in the other it 
works on IE and FF.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Helmut.
John Britsios wrote:
Dear Helmut,
You have two errors.
Line 2: A quoted string cannot be immediately followed by text. It must be
followed by a space or the end of the tag.
Line 7: The EMBED element cannot be used here. It is not contained in an
element that allows its use.
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Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Helmut Granda
Matthew Cruickshank wrote:
Helmut Granda wrote:
Thanks to John and Matthew to take the time to respond,
I have tried all your suggestions,

I doubt it.
AWWW, thanks for that :-P
and still it didnt work, BUT I went ahead and uploaded the file to a 
different server and it works. 

The only difference I've ever seen on a server in Firefox is based on 
the mime-type.

Did you really check that as I suggested? What's the difference in the 
headers between the servers?


Server 1: works on IE only
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:24:48 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix)
Last-Modified: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:11:48 GMT
ETag: 985415-29b5-422f5884
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 10677
Connection: close
Server 2:works on IE and FF
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:25:03 GMT
Server: Apache
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.10
Connection: close

also as a side note, when I deleted the embed tag it would not work in 
FF only in IE, so I had to place back the embed tag to make it work.

Thanks again,
Helmut..
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[WSG] positioning definition list elements site check needed

2005-03-09 Thread Carol Doersom
This is what I want to see in the footer of my pages:
   LOCATION:blah blah blah
   MAIL TO:blah blah blah
   PHONE:blah blah blah
It seems to call for a definition list but I can't find a sensible way 
to get each pair of list items on its own line. If I make the dts and 
dds display:inline it all ends up on one line (until it wraps). If I 
make just the dts display:block, every element is on its own line. 
Using a separate dl for each inline dt  dd works, but that seems 
silly. Isn't there a better way?

Right now I've got them set to display:inline with a br / after each 
dd. It looks fine but the html won't validate because of the line breaks.

I could use an unordered list, but then I'll need nbsp's after each 
colon to get the spacing that I want. Using a definition list allows me 
to add a margin or padding and seems more correct, semantically.

Also...I'd really appreciate anyone with a Mac and IE5 on a PC checking 
this site for any scary stuff. The homepage is http://www.blinn.edu/sbdc.

tia,
Carol
See the bottom of:
http://www.blinn.edu/sbdc/about.htm
http://www.blinn.edu/sbdc/template_css.css
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Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Helmut Granda wrote:
Server 1: works on IE only
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:24:48 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix)
Last-Modified: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:11:48 GMT
ETag: 985415-29b5-422f5884
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 10677
Connection: close
Server 2:works on IE and FF
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:25:03 GMT
Server: Apache
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.10
Connection: close
Huh? So you're saying both servers don't return a Content-Type? What's 
the url? (and in the meantime complain to the admins of the boxes)

The content-length of the first one seems a little small. 10677 bytes is 
only about a second of audio.

also as a side note, when I deleted the DEFANGED_embed tag it would 
not work in FF only in IE, so I had to place back the DEFANGED_embed 
tag to make it work.
This works for me in Firefox and IE / Quicktime and Media Player,
object type=audio/wav data=audio/s001.mp3
 param name=filename value=audio/s001.mp3/
/object

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Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Helmut Granda
Matthew Cruickshank wrote:
Huh? So you're saying both servers don't return a Content-Type? What's 
the url? (and in the meantime complain to the admins of the boxes)

The content-length of the first one seems a little small. 10677 bytes 
is only about a second of audio.

also as a side note, when I deleted the DEFANGED_embed tag it would 
not work in FF only in IE, so I had to place back the DEFANGED_embed 
tag to make it work.

This works for me in Firefox and IE / Quicktime and Media Player,
object type=audio/wav data=audio/s001.mp3
 param name=filename value=audio/s001.mp3/
/object

Here are the site tests that I am doing
Doesnt work on IE or FF:
IE- Fails Server 1
http://www.hamsterballstudios.com/extrafiles/vo/volaunch2.html
FF - Fails Server 2
http://www.multimedia247.net/mp3test/volaunch2.html
---
IE not working - Same file in different server - Server 1
http://www.hamsterballstudios.com/extrafiles/vo/volaunch3.html
FF - Working - Server 2
http://www.multimedia247.net/mp3test/volaunch3.html
Thanks for all your help. It is really appreciated.
Helmut.
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Re: [WSG] positioning definition list elements site check needed

2005-03-09 Thread Erik Peterson
Carol t  wrote:
This is what I want to see in the footer of my pages:
   LOCATION:blah blah blah
   MAIL TO:blah blah blah
   PHONE:blah blah blah
Hi Carol,
I was able to get this by using the following:
#footerwrap dl {
  /* all the stuff you had plus: */
  overflow: auto;
  }
#footerwrap dt {
  float: left;
  font-weight: bold;
  clear: both;
  }
#footerwrap dd {
  float: left;
  margin-left: 16px;
  }

Also...I'd really appreciate anyone with a Mac and IE5 on a PC checking 
this site for any scary stuff. The homepage is http://www.blinn.edu/sbdc.
Sorry, but can't help you with these...
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[WSG] Re: [off-list] positioning definition list elements site check needed

2005-03-09 Thread Erik Peterson
Btw, this is something that I would definitely avoid having in my 
javascript files:

function pasuser(form) {   //password form
  if (form.pass.value==support)
  {location=referrals2.htm}
  else {alert
  (The password you entered is incorrect. Please try again. For more 
information call (979)830-4137)
}}

I noticed it in the script.js file that is referenced in your about.htm 
file.  The real problem is that the password is in clear text and 
readable by any client...

I don't know where it came from since it doesn't seem to apply to this 
page, but you usually want to handle password scripting on the server. 
Or at least use a hash mechanism to make it a little harder...

-Erik
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Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Helmut Granda wrote:
Here are the site tests that I am doing
Doesnt work on IE or FF:
IE- Fails Server 1
http://www.hamsterballstudios.com/extrafiles/vo/volaunch2.html
Ok... this site is producing vastly different to the headers you 
previously posted. There's now - perhaps magically - a content-type. As 
that was the bit I was asking about I'm guessing you just didn't post 
that bit last time or something. Christ...

The mp3  http://tinyurl.com/6dz8u  is sent with these headers (note: 
text/plain),

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 01:01:59 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix)
Last-Modified: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 00:46:13 GMT
ETag: 9853fa-1a51f5-422e4755
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 1724917
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/plain

FF - Fails Server 2
http://www.multimedia247.net/mp3test/volaunch2.html

The mp3  http://tinyurl.com/44ptd  is sent with these headers (note: 
audio/mpeg, which is more correct)

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 01:04:06 GMT
Server: Apache
Last-Modified: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 22:53:33 GMT
ETag: 57c00d-1a51f5-422f7e6d
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 1724917
Connection: close
Content-Type: audio/mpeg
Soget hamsterballstudios.com to return the correct content-type 
(audio/x-mp3), and then work on the html.

This HTML works in Firefox and IE for me, 
http://www.multimedia247.net/mp3test/volaunch3.html , but fails validation.

Get your html to validate - that's half of the problem (well that and 
the mime headers which have mysteriously reappeared). To get Firefox 
compatibility there's no need for the older embed tag, provided your 
object tags are good (previously posted example code works, as do many 
others).

1. fix your http headers
2. then fix your html

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Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Helmut Granda
Matthew,
Thank you very much for taking the time to respond and help. Your links 
are great resource!

One thing is for sure that the server www.multimedia.net will play in IE 
and FF because it has the mp3 headers correct, while 
www.hamsterballstudios.com has the headers incorrectly.

So to recap.
1. headers in multimedia247.net are set up properly
2. headers in hamsterballstudios.com are not set up correctly
3. code does not validate
- solution
1. fix the headers in hamsterballstudios.com
2. fix HTML
So my fears that the server in hamsterballstudios.com is not set up 
correctly which is the clients server.

Thanks again, I really appreciate it.
Helmut
Matthew Cruickshank wrote:
Helmut Granda wrote:
Here are the site tests that I am doing
Doesnt work on IE or FF:
IE- Fails Server 1
http://www.hamsterballstudios.com/extrafiles/vo/volaunch2.html

Ok... this site is producing vastly different to the headers you 
previously posted. There's now - perhaps magically - a content-type. 
As that was the bit I was asking about I'm guessing you just didn't 
post that bit last time or something. Christ...

The mp3  http://tinyurl.com/6dz8u  is sent with these headers (note: 
text/plain),

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 01:01:59 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix)
Last-Modified: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 00:46:13 GMT
ETag: 9853fa-1a51f5-422e4755
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 1724917
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/plain

FF - Fails Server 2
http://www.multimedia247.net/mp3test/volaunch2.html

The mp3  http://tinyurl.com/44ptd  is sent with these headers (note: 
audio/mpeg, which is more correct)

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 01:04:06 GMT
Server: Apache
Last-Modified: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 22:53:33 GMT
ETag: 57c00d-1a51f5-422f7e6d
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 1724917
Connection: close
Content-Type: audio/mpeg
Soget hamsterballstudios.com to return the correct content-type 
(audio/x-mp3), and then work on the html.

This HTML works in Firefox and IE for me, 
http://www.multimedia247.net/mp3test/volaunch3.html , but fails 
validation.

Get your html to validate - that's half of the problem (well that and 
the mime headers which have mysteriously reappeared). To get Firefox 
compatibility there's no need for the older embed tag, provided your 
object tags are good (previously posted example code works, as do many 
others).

1. fix your http headers
2. then fix your html
.Matthew Cruickshank
http://holloway.co.nz/

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Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Matthew Cruickshank




Helmut Granda wrote:
So
to recap.
  
  
1. headers in multimedia247.net are set up properly
  
2. headers in hamsterballstudios.com are not set up correctly
  
3. code does not validate
  
  
- solution
  
  
1. fix the headers in hamsterballstudios.com
  
2. fix HTML
  
  
So my fears that the server in hamsterballstudios.com is not set up
correctly which is the clients server.

Yeah, that's right. As hamsterballstudios.com is sending it as
"text/plain" Firefox will pass it to the plugin for "text/plain" rather
than the plugin for "audio/x-mp3" or "audio/mpeg". As Firefox can't
handle a plugin of "text/plain" nothing will happen. You can see how
your Firefox is configured for plugins by typing "about:plugins" into
your Firefox address bar -- this will tell you what's installed. But
yeah, you need to fix the headers on the server to get Firefox to work.

Fixing the headers can be done at the webserver level, or - if you've
got PHP installed - you could do something like,

?php
  $pathToFile = "path";
   header ("Cache-Control:
must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0");
   header ("Content-Type:
audio/x-mp3");
   header ("Content-Length: " . filesize($pathToFile));
   header ("Content-Disposition:
attachment; filename=$pathToFile");
   readfile($pathToFile);
?

(If you use this, make sure there's no whitespace on either side of the
?php ... ?


As for step 2,

This HTML works for me on a server that responds to mp3 files with
"audio/x-mp3"

object type="audio/wav" data=""
 param name="filename" value="audio/s001.mp3"/
/object


ps. the reason why IE works is that it ignores the mime-type, and
follows this logic,


  

  If
the server returns a content-type, IE will remember that. 
  However,
IE also runs the beginning of the stream through a 'buffer check' to
verify whether the data actually looks like the content-type being
passed to it. If IE thinks the content-type is invalid, it'll just
ignore it and do whatever else it can to parse the data, including
falling back on the extension of the URL given.

-- http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/networking/moniker/overview/appendix_a.asp

  




.Matthew Cruickshank
http://holloway.co.nz/