Re: [WSG CORE] RE: 'users with disabilities' WAS: [WSG] New front page for http: //ab c.net.au/
James Ellis wrote: I think John, Betty, Steve or Jane are always more preferable labels, if my drift is seen ;), otherwise, the person tends to become the label in societal eyes. [snip] The moral for us? Accessibility is for everyone, not just for a group deemed disabled... and politics sometimes gets in the way). That's all really well said, James. IMO that's it, in a nutshell. Funny we should have been talking about this cos my cousin, whose daughter has Autism and who is working really hard to form a support organisation for parents of newly-diagnosed children with Autism, just wrote to me after I'd asked about her use of an upper-case A for the word Autism. I thought I'd quote here for those who are interested in this discussion and in being politically correct in their accessibility terminology: Officially, it is a capital letter A because it's a label, like Mr or Mrs etc. There are so many politics with Autism. Like we are not supposed to say Autistic children, we are supposed to say Children with Autism. The reasoning for that one is they are children first. (I should add that this is in Australia since there are clearly international variations in terminology.) Vicki. :-) -- Vicki Berry DistinctiveWeb http://www.distinctiveweb.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] August Brisbane Meeting
Most Bris-Vegas residents are probably already aware of the meeting, but I thought I would send out a tickler to catch anyone who happens to be passing through. Our next meeting in Brisbane is Tuesday August 9 - ie in 2 days time. John Bates will be talking to us about 'Standards For A Global Audience -- Developing Standards-friendly Applications' This presentation has a little wider scope than our usual and I think it will be very interesting. Usual details, 6:30 start, at the library on George, yadayadayada - please send RSVPs and any questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Core Member Brisbane Organiser ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site Check: VVE
All, Just a quick ping to say that we've finished version 0.5 of the site which should include 95% of the feedback I received on the list. http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/vve/ Thanks, Tatham Oddie Fuel Advance - Ignite Your Idea www.fueladvance.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tatham Oddie (Fuel Advance) Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:58 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Cc: Tom Harvey Subject: [WSG] Site Check: VVE Guys n gals, In light of the Broadleaf discussion/brawl the other week, I have a new proposal for you. In this case, bandwidth was critical due to the existing sites traffic base and formed a major design goal. http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/vve/ There are still some oddities in IE6, however I have posted to CSS-D about this. What I was mostly interested in some feedback on was the mark-up, etc I was just wondering if anybody had any pointers about how to improve it. Thanks in advance! And Ill try not to start a punchup this time. ;-) Thanks, Tatham Oddie Fuel Advance - Ignite Your Idea www.fueladvance.com
Re: [WSG] list-style-image in horizonal menu
Thank you both very much! I did set the list-style-image as a background and it worked like a charm. The only difference was instead of setting the positioning using left center, I used 0 40%, which placed the image pefectly inline with the text. I'll take a look at the artile cited below, and again many thanks! Warm regards, Mario In fact, you could put the background image in the anchor to achieve a rollover affect by adjusting the background position, or changing the the image. Here's a good article on single background images and positioning: http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/05/navigation_matr.php kind regards Terrence Wood. On 7 Aug 2005, at 11:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goodevening All, I have a slight problem. I can't seem to get the list-style-image to work, which is part of a unordered list set to display inline in a horizonal menu bar. On 7 Aug 2005, at 1:16 PM, russ - maxdesign wrote: I agree with Patrick - I'd use background-image instead of list-style-image as you have far more control over the placement of the image using the background-position property. Russ Alternatively, you could try and add left-hand padding and place the star as a non-repeating background image ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: 'users with disabilities' WAS: [WSG] New front page for http: //ab c.net.au/
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Spam: RE: [WSG] firefox for OS9?
Sorry for a possibly off-topic post. We have a client on our intranet that needs to look at our site on OS9.2. I couldn't find information on the Firefox web site about compatibility with this platform. Does anyone know where I could send this person for more advice? From memory and a quick look at http://browsers.evolt.org/ does not show any OS 9 Firefox versions. Best bet for a standards based OS 9 browser is Mozilla 1.2.1 from here: http://www.mozilla.org/releases/old-releases-1.1-1.4rc3.html#1.2.1 an alternative is Netscape 7.02 from: http://browsers.evolt.org/?navigator/mac/7.02 Nick This email is from the Department of Consumer and Employment Protection and any information or attachments to it may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply mail to the sender informing them of the error and delete all copies from your computer system, including attachments and your reply email. As the information is confidential you must not disclose, copy or use it in any manner. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Newbie Questions: East-Asian Character Sets and Marking-up Poetry
This is, I guess, one of the first times I've written anything here, but I've run into a bit of a dilemma and was hoping for some advice: 1. I have a number of analyses of poems I am planning on posting to my weblog over the next few months, however, I'm a bit stumped as to what mark-up would be most semantically correct (The poems are quoted from another source, so for the time being I was thinking of using a blockquote): A. blockquote h3Title of Poem/h3 p class=stanza Blah...blah..blah...br/ More blah.br/ /p /blockquote Or: B. dl class=poem dtTitle of Poem/dt ddBlah...blah..blach.../dd ddMore blah/dd ... /dl 2. Additionally, I am likely going to be posting entries that will be partly in Chinese (quotations from the original text together with my translations and comments, so that knowledgeable readers can refer to the original themselves to judge whether I've made any mistakes), and was planning on using UTF-8 encoding to encode my blog. Anyway, the question I have is (and this may be somewhat off-topic), but how would one go about hiding the Chinese characters for those people who do not have Chinese fonts enabled on their system? (To avoid those ugly squares or ? that show up when people who don't have Chinese fonts installed -- a not inconsiderable fraction of my readership -- access my site.) I've been thinking of two ways: A. A cookie and a PHP script that would be set once (manually) to opt-in for the Chinese fonts (presumably anyone who does that will have the fonts installed on their system). B. Storing the Chinese text (poems and prose excerpts) in a separate file and linking to it from the translated version. Thanks in advance for any advice... Kwok-Ting Lee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Newbie Questions: East-Asian Character Sets and Marking-up Poetry
On 08/08/2005, at 1:47 PM, Kwok Ting Lee wrote: 2. Additionally, I am likely going to be posting entries that will be partly in Chinese (quotations from the original text together with my translations and comments, so that knowledgeable readers can refer to the original themselves to judge whether I've made any mistakes), and was planning on using UTF-8 encoding to encode my blog. Anyway, the question I have is (and this may be somewhat off-topic), but how would one go about hiding the Chinese characters for those people who do not have Chinese fonts enabled on their system? (To avoid those ugly squares or ? that show up when people who don't have Chinese fonts installed -- a not inconsiderable fraction of my readership -- access my site.) I've been thinking of two ways: A. A cookie and a PHP script that would be set once (manually) to opt-in for the Chinese fonts (presumably anyone who does that will have the fonts installed on their system). B. Storing the Chinese text (poems and prose excerpts) in a separate file and linking to it from the translated version. Or C: Make an optional graphic for the Chinese text and link to it, so that people who don't have the fonts installed can opt to see the text anyway. They still might see an ugly jumble (unless you also put the normal Chinese text in a popup and linked to that too) but at least they would be able to see the text. Actually, just had a thought as I type: using one of the many accessible pop-up techniques you could have them both included in the page, hidden away for people with descent browsers, and easily available for people to select which version they want to look at. Just my ramblings as I procrastinate. Seona. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Logic?
I am testing a rather simple layout, to keep things short I simplified it, hopefully not too much: I added a 1px border to a wrapper tag--container. Inside this is float left and a right menu. left is content, right is menu. The border cuts off at bottom of menu, not bottom of content. That don't make sense. div id="container" div id="center" some text, main articles etc /div div id="side" Menu /div /div Why don't the border stay with the container tag? I tried height:100%; in stylesheet, worked in ie but not firefox. What am I missing? Thanks in advance Bruce Prochnau BKDesign SOlutions
