Re: [WSG] Center aligning links with a specified height
Adam Burmister (DSL AK) wrote: Hi everybody, Long time reader - first time poster here. I've currently got a doozie that I've been struggling with for hours. The final product looks simple enough, but I can't for the life of me get it - help me WSG, you're my only hope. is there a url where we can take a look? dwain -- Dwain Alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alforddesigngroup.com The Savior replied; There is no such thing as sin;... 'The Gospel of Mary of Magdala' ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] tabbing through links
Head on over to http://juicystudio.com/article/ie-keyboard-navigation.php#comment10 (and #comment11) for a great IE focus bug fix that doesn't sully your html source. kind regards Terrence Wood. On 22 Aug 2005, at 12:59 PM, Andy Kirkwood|Motive wrote: Watch out for IE keyboard navigation bug. Depending on your method for setting the destination anchor, things can go a little awry. For details, see: http://www.motive.co.nz/glossary/anchor.php ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] vertical alignment
Hey list,
Since ditching tables I've lost the ability of vertical alignment, so
I've been using line heights for vertical positioning.
For vertically centred, this works best in IE. By setting a line
height in px, font resizing doesnt affect this value and the text
stays perfectly aligned in the middle as it grows.
eg.
#menu li {
list-style: none;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
height: 60px;
line-height: 30px;
}
How do I achieve this in firefox and other browsers?
Have I given up too quickly on 'vertical-align'? Is there something
i'm missing which is preventing it from working?
thanks guys
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[WSG] Specifying Web Standards and Accessibility Requirements
Hello all, I often hire freelancers to do visual design and template coding work for me. To make project communication easier I plan to draw up a document to detail my requirements with regard to standards-compliant coding and accessibility. It is my intention that this document would be re-usable - it should be applicable to all projects we handle in the forseable future. Although I don't expect it to be too hard to create this document, I would be very interested to learn from the experiences of this group first. Specifically: 1. Has anyone else created a document of this nature and, if so, would they be willing to share it? 2. I seem to recall reading an article about this matter somewhere before (maybe on the W3C's own site). After a lot of Googling I still can't seem to find it. Does anyone know what article I am thinking of? Thanks in advance for all your help. Cheers for now David ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Specifying Web Standards and Accessibility Requirements
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[WSG] apologies and Microsoft question
Sorry gang for not unsubscribing temporarily. I hope I didn't send out a truckload of out of office reminders. I was at the Business Blog Summit in San Francisco. Microsoft had a large presence; they even bought our support by handing out some absolutely fab messenger bags. Regardless of my ability to be swayed by super-cool swag, I have a question. They kept talking about a new feature, that if adopted by web sites, would allow RSS feeds and whatnot to be more universal. I believe they called it list extension. Question: Is this another proprietary browser feature or a schema for xml tags? If it is a schema, how does it relate to the Dublin Core and the Semantic Web? The audience was mostly business people and marketing types, the last thing they wanted to hear about was xml, schemas, and god forbid RSS feeds (Scoble and Dave Taylor argued for 30 minutes in one session about full feeds vs. abbreviated feeds... snore... Ford vs. Chevy... snore...). So they talked about the virtues and left the tech a mystery. Did I mention how cool the bag was? Must like IE7...Must like IE7... Must like IE7 For some reason, this keeps repeating in my mind every time I pick up the magnificently useful and hip bag. Ted Drake www.tdrake.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Specifying Web Standards and Accessibility Requirements
David Nicol wrote: 1. Has anyone else created a document of this nature and, if so, would they be willing to share it? Hi, Roger Johansson, of 456 Berea Street, put together a guide he calls Developing With Web Standards: Recommendations and best practices [01]. It's not as detailed as an official coding guideline spec (addressing items like code commenting, class ID naming conventions, and CSS organization), but it does provide an excellent view of standards development and some good examples of semantic markup. This would likely be a good starting point for any spec you put together. [01] http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/developing_with_web_standards/ -- Best regards, Michael Wilson ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] apologies and Microsoft question
Drake, Ted C. wrote: Did I mention how cool the bag was? Must like IE7...Must like IE7... Must like IE7 For some reason, this keeps repeating in my mind every time I pick up the magnificently useful and hip bag. dunt, dunt, dunt, another one bites the dust. ;^) -- Dwain Alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alforddesigngroup.com The Savior replied; There is no such thing as sin;... 'The Gospel of Mary of Magdala' ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] vertical alignment
Duncan Stigwood wrote:
Have I given up too quickly on 'vertical-align'? Is there something
i'm missing which is preventing it from working?
if memory serves me well, which it tricks me sometimes, i think you can
do this in your css:
{display:table-cell;vertical-align:center;}
someone correct me if i'm wrong, please.
hth,
dwain
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Re: [WSG] vertical alignment
But it doesn't work in IE . . . , naturally.
Bob
dwain alford wrote:
Duncan Stigwood wrote:
Have I given up too quickly on 'vertical-align'? Is there something
i'm missing which is preventing it from working?
if memory serves me well, which it tricks me sometimes, i think you
can do this in your css:
{display:table-cell;vertical-align:center;}
someone correct me if i'm wrong, please.
hth,
dwain
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Re: [WSG] vertical alignment
Have I given up too quickly on 'vertical-align'? Is there something i'm missing which is preventing it from working? Its own specification. See the specs which display values use the vertical-align. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] vertical alignment
But it doesn't work in IE . . . , naturally. http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] vertical alignment
designer wrote:
But it doesn't work in IE . . . , naturally.
Bob
dwain alford wrote:
Duncan Stigwood wrote:
Have I given up too quickly on 'vertical-align'? Is there something
i'm missing which is preventing it from working?
if memory serves me well, which it tricks me sometimes, i think you
can do this in your css:
{display:table-cell;vertical-align:center;}
figures, but at least it works in ff.
dwain
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[WSG] my head is sore
I've been beating my head against a wall all weekend, trying to create a new site using css for positioning. Clearly there are a few things I'm not getting about which tag goes in which spec / what's the best approach to create a free floating centered body of fixed width. I'd much appreciate some help. The page I'm creating is at: http://www.redbonepress.com/index1.htm and the css is at: http://www.redbonepress.com/redbonestyles.css I finally got the page to look right in Firefox + Safari, but it's not even close in IE. (It was really messed up in all three for a while). The three elements: masthead, sidebar and main content just don't want to stay where they belong. I'm sorry that this question is so broad - and thanks. I'm hoping this list can help me, or else I'm going to give up and build a table for positioning. thanks, jen jenSimmons http://www.jensimmons.com http://www.emergingawareness.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] vertical alignment
that's perfect then. because in IE it doesnt resize a px line-height. Thanks guys :) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Center aligning links with a specified height
Sorry for delays in replying - http://labs.flog.co.nz/css-help/ has an example image of what I'm after and some XHTML and CSS code to look at. Hopefully that will explain it far better than I have previously :) - A -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dwain alford Sent: Monday, 22 August 2005 6:23 p.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Center aligning links with a specified height Adam Burmister (DSL AK) wrote: Hi everybody, Long time reader - first time poster here. I've currently got a doozie that I've been struggling with for hours. The final product looks simple enough, but I can't for the life of me get it - help me WSG, you're my only hope. is there a url where we can take a look? dwain -- Dwain Alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alforddesigngroup.com The Savior replied; There is no such thing as sin;... 'The Gospel of Mary of Magdala' ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] my head is sore
The only problem I see in IE (IE6/Win) is that the sidebar's unordered list isn't lined up correctly. That's because IE uses margins to indent lists by default, and gecko uses padding. And you specified margin: 0 for the list, which removed the indent in IE. I recommend setting the padding to 0 in your #sidebar ul rule, then setting the left margin of it to whatever you want the indentation to be. Are you seeing more severe problems, or did you already fix them?
Re: [WSG] Center aligning links with a specified height
Try keeping them inline, and setting line-height to 40px. As long as word-wrap doesn't become a factor, that should work fine. But since you're using pixels, I'm guessing word-wrap would already cause problems anyway.
Re: [WSG] Center aligning links with a specified height
On 23 Aug 2005, at 7:48 AM, Kenny Graham wrote:
Try keeping them inline, and setting line-height to 40px. As long as
word-wrap doesn't become a factor, that should work fine. But since
you're using pixels, I'm guessing word-wrap would already cause
problems anyway.
Hmm... line-height on the a works for me in Safari 1.3/OSX 10.3.9 and
IE6/WInXP, but not in Firefox - strange.
I do, however, offer this solution to the centering issue - see my
modifications to your code at
http://www.omnivision.com.au/test/center_test.htm
Note that, when testing, I use backgrounds rather than borders to
identify the various elements; I find this gives a more accurate idea
of layout. If you have a number of nested elements, all those borders
add up to extra space...
I've left your CSS rules that I've disabled in the code, but commented
out so you can see what they were.
Note also that the inline-block solution doesn't work in IE5/Mac...
I think the key to centering the list is in an extra containing div
(id=shell) that allows the whole footer to be centered, with no fixed
width, so that {margin: 0 auto} works to center it, and it then expands
to the the width of its content (the ul). This extra div is
semantically null, I guess, but I'll take it as a viable solution!
Now for that height issue...
HTH
N
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Re: [WSG] Center aligning links with a specified height
I got it working in firefox and almost in IE/Win (height is way bigger
than it's supposed to be in IE) by changing the li a in Nick's
example to:
li a {
background: #eee;
display: inline-block ;
/*height: 50px;*/
line-height: 50px;
font-size: 14px;
padding: 17px 20px;
}
Now, keep in mind as soon as someone resizes the text, it won't work
anymore. So I'd keep looking, even if you fix it in IE. But maybe it's
a step in the right direction? I stopped trying to make stuff work in
IE when it started to give me ulcers and gray hairs (and I'm only
21). Good luck.
RE: [WSG] Center aligning links with a specified height
Title: RE: [WSG] Center aligning links with a specified height
I think Ive found a solution it requires a separate padding style for IE though.
http://labs.flog.co.nz/css-help/solution.htm
ul {
list-style-type:none;
background: #cfc;
height: 40px;
overflow: hidden;
}
li a {
background: #eee;
display: inline-block;
padding: 0 20px;
line-height: 40px;
}
li a {
padding: 20px;
}
Could somebody please check it in Safari?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kenny Graham
Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:22 a.m.
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Center aligning links with a specified height
I got it working in firefox and almost in IE/Win (height is way bigger than it's supposed to be in IE) by changing the li a in Nick's example to:
li a {
background: #eee;
display: inline-block ;
/*height: 50px;*/
line-height: 50px;
font-size: 14px;
padding: 17px 20px;
}
Now, keep in mind as soon as someone resizes the text, it won't work anymore. So I'd keep looking, even if you fix it in IE. But maybe it's a step in the right direction? I stopped trying to make stuff work in IE when it started to give me ulcers and gray hairs (and I'm only 21). Good luck.
Re: [WSG] Center aligning links with a specified height
On 23 Aug 2005, at 8:41 AM, Adam Burmister ((DSL AK)) wrote: Could somebody please check it in Safari? Hmm again - not quite. See http://www.omnivision.com.au/test/safari.gif Sorry, gotta go to work right now - I'll check in later and see how you're doing... N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Specifying Web Standards and Accessibility Requirements
From: David Nicol To make project communication easier I plan to draw up a document to detail my requirements with regard to standards-compliant coding and accessibility. It is my intention that this document would be re-usable - it should be applicable to all projects we handle in the forseable future. 2. I seem to recall reading an article about this matter somewhere before (maybe on the W3C's own site). After a lot of Googling I still can't seem to find it. Does anyone know what article I am thinking of? J Zeldman had a lot of input to the New York Public Library Styleguide which incoroprates a lot of the sort of info your are wanting I think. http://www.nypl.org/styleguide/ -- Peter Williams ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] iCalendar Questions
Does anyone have any good iCalendar resources to share? Other than hCal, I can't find many good iCal examples, let alone tutorials. I hope this is an appropriate question for the WSG -- if not, where else could I look for answers? Matt Hampel ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] iCalendar Questions
Matt Hampel wrote: Does anyone have any good iCalendar resources to share? Other than hCal, I can't find many good iCal examples, let alone tutorials. I hope this is an appropriate question for the WSG Aeh...how do you think this relates to web standards? -- if not, where else could I look for answers? http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=iCal+resources+-hCal -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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Matt Hampel wrote: Does anyone have any good iCalendar resources to share? Other than hCal, I can't find many good iCal examples, let alone tutorials. I hope this is an appropriate question for the WSG -- if not, where else could I look for answers? Matt Hampel I would also be interested, a client contacted me yesterday about it. I haven't looked into fitting Web Standards or what it is based on yet. CSS? Bruce Prochnau BKDesign Solutions ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] iCalendar Questions
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Aeh...how do you think this relates to web standards? Hmm...after my initial snappy comment I realised you meant the iCal/hCal *formats*, rather than the actual iCal application...so my reaction was admittedly a tad uncalled for. Apols. -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities
User testing? On 23/08/05, Stuart Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, First, I'd just like to check I understand something correctly. Validation for WAI AAA = WCAG 1.0 Priority 3. Is this correct? Ok, we can validate for: * W3C HTML/XHTML * CSS * WAI * Section 508 And I've recently learnt about accessibility checks for: * Colour blindness * Contrast * Flicker/strobe If you pass all these test, does this exhaust all accessibility issues or are there more? Regards, Stuart ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Jason Foss http://www.almost-anything.com.au http://www.waterfallweb.net Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] my head is sore
From: Jen Simmons
http://www.redbonepress.com/index1.htm
and the css is at:
http://www.redbonepress.com/redbonestyles.css
The three elements: masthead, sidebar and main content just
don't want to stay where they belong.
It looks good (and very similar) in both IE6 and FF1.06 on
Win XP for me. Your only issue seems to be the left menu
list. You need to set border, margin and padding for the left
of the ul and the ul li selectors to 0, then use one setting
to get the correct amount of indent for your layout/design.
Opera, Firefox and IE all seem to use a different method of
creating the indent for lists. By zero-ing all the methods
and then specifically setting the indent using one of the
possible methods you should get the same result in all three
browsers.
#sidebar ul {
list-style: none;
border-left: 0;
-- margin-left: 10px; --- I chose margin
padding-left: 0;
font: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
color:#FFCC00;
text-align: left;
}
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Re: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities
Hi all, Sorry to be a pain, but I am new to this list. Is there a place somewhere that lists the tools/techniques for doing the below? Ok, we can validate for: * W3C HTML/XHTML * CSS * WAI * Section 508And I've recently learnt about accessibility checks for: * Colour blindness * Contrast * Flicker/strobe Thanks! dp. On 23/08/05, Jason Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: User testing?On 23/08/05, Stuart Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, First, I'd just like to check I understand something correctly. Validation for WAI AAA = WCAG 1.0 Priority 3. Is this correct? Ok, we can validate for: * W3C HTML/XHTML * CSS * WAI * Section 508 And I've recently learnt about accessibility checks for: * Colour blindness * Contrast * Flicker/strobe If you pass all these test, does this exhaust all accessibility issues or are there more? Regards, Stuart ** The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **--Jason Foss http://www.almost-anything.com.auhttp://www.waterfallweb.netWindows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]North Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia **The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help**
RE: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities
Hey Dave, Try looking ingoogle 1st ;) . Ben -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of David PietersenSent: Tuesday, 23 August 2005 2:29 p.m.To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities Hi all, Sorry to be a pain, but I am new to this list. Is there a place somewhere that lists the tools/techniques for doing the below? Ok, we can validate for: * W3C HTML/XHTML * CSS * WAI * Section 508And I've recently learnt about accessibility checks for: * Colour blindness * Contrast * Flicker/strobe Thanks! dp. On 23/08/05, Jason Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: User testing?On 23/08/05, Stuart Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, First, I'd just like to check I understand something correctly. Validation for WAI AAA = WCAG 1.0 Priority 3. Is this correct? Ok, we can validate for: * W3C HTML/XHTML * CSS * WAI * Section 508 And I've recently learnt about accessibility checks for: * Colour blindness * Contrast * Flicker/strobe If you pass all these test, does this exhaust all accessibility issues or are there more? Regards, Stuart ** The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **--Jason Fosshttp://www.almost-anything.com.auhttp://www.waterfallweb.netWindows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]North Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia **The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help**
RE: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities
Sorryall, That was meant to be off-list. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ben Wrighton - StraightForwardSent: Tuesday, 23 August 2005 2:53 p.m.To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities Hey Dave, Try looking ingoogle 1st ;) . Ben -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of David PietersenSent: Tuesday, 23 August 2005 2:29 p.m.To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities Hi all, Sorry to be a pain, but I am new to this list. Is there a place somewhere that lists the tools/techniques for doing the below? Ok, we can validate for: * W3C HTML/XHTML * CSS * WAI * Section 508And I've recently learnt about accessibility checks for: * Colour blindness * Contrast * Flicker/strobe Thanks! dp. On 23/08/05, Jason Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: User testing?On 23/08/05, Stuart Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, First, I'd just like to check I understand something correctly. Validation for WAI AAA = WCAG 1.0 Priority 3. Is this correct? Ok, we can validate for: * W3C HTML/XHTML * CSS * WAI * Section 508 And I've recently learnt about accessibility checks for: * Colour blindness * Contrast * Flicker/strobe If you pass all these test, does this exhaust all accessibility issues or are there more? Regards, Stuart ** The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **--Jason Fosshttp://www.almost-anything.com.auhttp://www.waterfallweb.netWindows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]North Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia **The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help**
RE: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities
From: David Pietersen ...tools/techniques for doing the below? Ok, we can validate for: * W3C HTML/XHTML * CSS * WAI * Section 508 David, The W3C maintain a useful website that has validators for x/html and css. http://validator.w3.org/ http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ They also have info regarding WIA conformance http://www.w3.org/WAI/eval/ Webxact have a testing tool for WAI and Section 508 http://webxact.watchfire.com/ Bobby is a general accessibility checker http://www.cast.org/bobby/ Joe Clark offers a lot of good advice on accessibility http://joeclark.org/access/webaccess/ alistapart has many articles on accesibility http://www.alistapart.com/topics/accessibility/ Google for terms like section 508 check and you'll find more references and tools. -- Peter Williams ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities
Hmm, alistapart is back with a funky new design and structure alistapart has many articles on accesibility http://www.alistapart.com/topics/accessibility/ should be: http://www.alistapart.com/topics/userscience/accessibility/ Damian ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities
From: Damian Sweeney Hmm, alistapart is back with a funky new design alistapart has many articles on accesibility http://www.alistapart.com/topics/accessibility/ should be: http://www.alistapart.com/topics/userscience/accessibility/ Damian, Your link gave me a 404. I'm really not sure what you are on about. My link works http://www.alistapart.com/topics/accessibility/ -- Peter Williams ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities
Well, this is curious. I get a 404 for http://www.alistapart.com/topics/accessibility/ and a page full of articles for http://www.alistapart.com/topics/userscience/accessibility/ Can anyone break this deadlock? Damian From: Damian Sweeney Hmm, alistapart is back with a funky new design alistapart has many articles on accesibility http://www.alistapart.com/topics/accessibility/ should be: http://www.alistapart.com/topics/userscience/accessibility/ Damian, Your link gave me a 404. I'm really not sure what you are on about. My link works http://www.alistapart.com/topics/accessibility/ -- Peter Williams ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Damian Sweeney Learning Skills Adviser (online) Language and Learning Skills Unit Instructional Designer, AIRport Project Equity, Language and Learning Programs University of Melbourne 723 Swanston St Parkville 3010 www.services.unimelb.edu.au/ellp/ www.services.unimelb.edu.au/llsu/ airport.unimelb.edu.au/ ph 03 8344 9370, fax 03 9349 1039 This email and any attachments may contain personal information or information that is otherwise confidential or the subject of copyright. Any unauthorised use, disclosure or copying of any part of it is prohibited. The University does not warrant that this email or any attachments are free from viruses or defects. Please check any attachments for viruses and defects before opening them. If this email is received in error please delete it and notify us by return email or by phoning (03) 8344 9370. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities
On 8/22/05 10:18 PM Damian Sweeney [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I get a 404 for http://www.alistapart.com/topics/accessibility/ Works for me. and a page full of articles for http://www.alistapart.com/topics/userscience/accessibility/ 404 Okay, now everybody immediately clear caches and turn off proxy and try again, okay? :-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
