Re: [WSG] Address Element

2006-02-19 Thread heretic
Hi there,

 Dear WSG members, I'm a bit confused about the correct use for
 address-element.
 W3C documentation states that it should be used to supply contact
 information for a document or a major part of a document such as a form..
 Now as I'm working on phone (and address) directories, I am currently using
 the element to mark up addresses of all listings (no matter how many of the
 listings are on a page).
 What do you think? Is this correct usage or not?

Well the spec is not clear, but it seems the intention of the element
is to provide contact details for the page itself; rather than the
subject of the page. It's an odd element - extremely specific.

For contact details, you could use definition lists; a well-structured
table (depending on whether you feel a single-row/column table is
acceptable) or even just an unordered list. It depends on exactly what
you're providing.

If you do want to implement the hCard microformat, you will probably
find the tag nesting requirements don't work all that well with
definition lists unless you never have to type an entry. If you do
have type entries, it gets more difficult.

I did an hCard implementation recently and went with a mixture of
headings, paragraphs and unordered lists with strong tags. The other
contender was a series of single-entry definition lists, which I
wasn't quite so keen on at the time but I may swap it in future :)

Sorry, that drifted away from your question. Basically, going by the
spec as I've been led to understand it; no your usage of the address
element probably isn't correct.

cheers

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[WSG] help with jello mold

2006-02-19 Thread kvnmcwebn

Hello,
im an eedgit...
How can i make the right sidebar div (black border-final.css) go to the top 
and clear the #toprow div(pink border-theme.css) to the left?

Been at this for a while havnt fully grasped the jello layout yet.

http://www.mcmonagle.biz/finalsite/jello2.html

http://www.mcmonagle.biz/finalsite/final.css
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/finalsite/theme.css


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Re: [WSG] Site Check Please (Citinet Lending)

2006-02-19 Thread Soeren Mordhorst

I am still in learning-process but in my opinion your site is excellent!
Just test your site for example at ' http://www.sidar.org '. This 
validator found some problems.

What I miss is a 'skip to main content' and accesskeys.
With ff the text from the main-content overlapps the footer by using the 
zoom-function

in some sites, e. g. http://dev5.headclerk.net/about.htm.

Best wishes

Soeren
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Re: [WSG] help with jello mold

2006-02-19 Thread kvnmcwebn


sorry fixed it..been up to long

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Re: [WSG] help with jello mold

2006-02-19 Thread kvnmcwebn



Hello,
having big problems with the jello layout again,
It works exactly how i want  in firefox but breaks in ie... cant fix 
it..tried hard.

PLEASE help.

http://www.mcmonagle.biz/finalsite/jello2.html
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/finalsite/final.css
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/finalsite/theme.css


-best
kvnmcwebn


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Re: [WSG] help with jello mold

2006-02-19 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com



Looking with Firefox 1.0.7, I get a 
horizontal scroll bar. It looks "broken" but I don't know the layout you're 
trying to achieve. I was looking at the source and I noticed your body tag is 
broken.Could that be causing problems?

bodydiv id="sizer"

Mike Cherimhttp://green-beast.com/http://accessites.org/


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Re: [WSG] help with jello mold

2006-02-19 Thread kvnmcwebn



Looking with Firefox 1.0.7, I get a horizontal scroll bar. It looks 
broken but I don't know the layout you're trying to achieve. I was looking 
at the source and I noticed your body tag is broken. Could that be causing 
problems?



thanks mike,
now i know that its only working in ff 1.5
i fixed the body tag. still no help.
-best
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Re: [WSG] Address Element

2006-02-19 Thread Christian Montoya
On 2/19/06, Miika Mäkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christian, that's what I kinda thought. Still, what struct me on the
 definition is or a major part of a document such as a form.

 Now what is the major part of a document that lists contact information for
 one or multiple businesses? These documents are used to contact the
 listings, not the author. Also, who is the author if we are just publishing
 listings provided (or authored) by the businesses?

I told you, you are the author, as in, the markup-writer author... for
every page you work on, the only person that can go in the address tag
is you... or the webmaster running the site.

 About appearing once, would you think it is correct to use it on a page that
 represents a single listing? For example
 http://yellowpages-cambodia.com/media/publishers-graphic-designers-prepress-etc/iq-design-13728.html

No, it's still not okay for that.

 Still not too convinced... though might change it to hcard anyways.

That would be a good idea.

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RE: [WSG] Address Element

2006-02-19 Thread Paul Hempsall
I found an interesting blog entry on Yesterdayishere (Bojan Janjanin). It 
discusses the use of this element.

http://yesterdayishere.com/wordpress/arhiva/2005/11/29/the-address-element/

Might prove helpful.

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On 2/19/06, Miika Mäkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christian, that's what I kinda thought. Still, what struct me on the 
 definition is or a major part of a document such as a form.

 Now what is the major part of a document that lists contact 
 information for one or multiple businesses? These documents are used 
 to contact the listings, not the author. Also, who is the author if we 
 are just publishing listings provided (or authored) by the 
 businesses?

I told you, you are the author, as in, the markup-writer author... for every 
page you work on, the only person that can go in the address tag is you... or 
the webmaster running the site.

 About appearing once, would you think it is correct to use it on a 
 page that represents a single listing? For example 
 http://yellowpages-cambodia.com/media/publishers-graphic-designers-pre
 press-etc/iq-design-13728.html

No, it's still not okay for that.

 Still not too convinced... though might change it to hcard anyways.

That would be a good idea.

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RE: [WSG] Address Element

2006-02-19 Thread Jason Turnbull
 Christian Montoya 
 I told you, you are the author, as in, the markup-writer author... for
 every page you work on, the only person that can go in the address tag
 is you... or the webmaster running the site.

I would disagree, for example when a book goes to print, does the printing
house become the author as they put the ink to paper? 

While yes the web is different from print I see it in the same context, the
author is whoever provided the content. A majority of the public only ever
see the content displayed, and if they need to contact someone concerning
the document content, providing a means of contacting the coder is
meaningless. So if in there future is possible to extract the documents
author from the address tag, I would think providing contact information
about the author of the document would have more meaning.

Regards
Jason


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[WSG] Vertical align:middle

2006-02-19 Thread Taco Fleur



I am having a hard 
time trying to figure out how to valign the footer columns.
#footer-column01 and 
#footer-column02

I know 
vertical-align won't do the trick, but margin: auto 0; also doesn't work, 
running out of options, anyone got any ideas on this one?
Thanks in 
advance.

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Re: [WSG] Vertical align:middle

2006-02-19 Thread Jan Brasna

Taco,

try to integrate this solution: 
http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html


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RE: [WSG] Vertical align:middle

2006-02-19 Thread Taco Fleur
I tried that before posting, but it appears I would need to implement the
hack, which I am not a big fan of. 


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Taco,

try to integrate this solution: 
http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html

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Re: [WSG] Vertical align:middle

2006-02-19 Thread Jan Brasna

What hack?

Have you seen this variation: 
http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/priklady/vertical-align-valid-solution-en.html 
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